For Kathi & Annie,
I'm late jumping in here but I have "Calvinists, Incorporated" and note
this couple is listed --- Kathi probably already has this, too, but here is
the entry, anyway:
Thomas Davies (Gareg Lwyd) & Mary
6 ? Children, incl. Mary & David T.
Welsh Home/Parish: Brynwichell, Blaenpennal
I agree with Annie and suggest you completely disregard the IGI entry you
found in Breconshire --- The PR's and BT's for this area of Cardiganshire
have not survived well, and the LDS have only microfilmed the BT's unless
there has been a transcript or another microfilm made of the PR, in which
case they sometimes film that, as well. If any of their children were born
after July 1, 1837, you can send directly to the Supt. Registrar's office
covering that area and obtain their birth certificate(s) -- this will
provide you with Mary's maiden name and corroborate any marriage entry you
find. If, as Annie says, they married after July 1, 1837, you will have
more information from their marriage certificate, including their residences
at the time of marriage, both of their fathers' names and occupations.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 1:38 AM
Subject: [Dyfed] Thomas Davies of Blaenpennal
Re your email to me on your Thomas Davies born 1790 and his wife Mary who
went to Ohio in 1846.
I checked my database for any Thomas Davies who married a Mary and I have
nothing that corresponds to your family. I'm sorry. I don't have complete
Blaenpennal records, however.
I did note that the farm is spelled Brynmichele and it is in Blaenpennal.
I would be very careful with the IGI. When you looked up those records,
you find out the source information? If it came from a record such
Church Record, then, by all means, look it up. But if it came from a
sheet, just skip it. There are so many mistakes in the patron sheets
not worth looking up. LDS states that both the IGI and the Ancestral
are full of mistakes.
What you need to look up is the following:
The Bishops' Transcript (The Church Records) Film #105129 and the records
Peniel Calvinst Methodist Chapel, Film #828105. On either one of
records, you should be able to find the baptism dates of those
doesn't usually give the maiden name of the mother, however.
any children born after 1 July 1837?
However, if they are not there, look to other parishes such as Llangeitho,
Nantcwnlle, etc. Make a circle of the parish you are looking for.
Blaenpennal and Pendarin, Brecon are not close together. Pendarin is
to the border with Glamorgan. If you got that off the IGI, skip it.
Why don't you look up the marriage on the Bishops' Tranxcript? It will
defintely be the Church of England records because everyone, regardless of
the religion, at that time had to be married within the Church of England.
Blaenpennal is an old parish and once was a chapelry of the parish of
July 1 1837 is the date of the Start of Civil Registration i n England and
Wales. Before that time, all records were church or chapel records and
are baptisms, marriages and burials. AFter that date, they are
marriages and deaths. It's like our having a national birth, marriage or
death certificate in the USA; in other words, all records are in
DC as well as the county and city of your birth, marriage or death.
have it in the USA.
By the way, did you check for other records in Gallia and Jackson
Is there a county history? Did you check census, tax, probates and
land and property? If you haven't, do it.