I interpret from your mail that you wish to enquire as to the two
descriptions of your ancestors occupation?
If this is correct then a refreshment room manager and publican are the same
thing as follows.
A publican is nowdays known as a "licensee" ie a person who is licensed by
the licensing justices to sell beers ales, spirits, wines porter etc on
premises set aside for the purpose. The applicant has to be of good
character etc and the license which would be for a specific premises would
be issued by the licensing justices in February annually.
A Refreshment House in the period of which you speak would have been a
premises which was licensed for the sale of "Refreshments" which may have
included those intoxicants as outlined above but in separate parts of the
overall premises. A good example of this may have been a Railway
Refreshment Room, these were often divided into two separate parts under the
same roof, one selling refreshments, ie tea and sandwiches and the other
refreshments with intoxicants.
Borth and Aberystwyth were Victorian watering holes so they tell me so you
may be able to pursue this further by researching the Licensing Justices
Records for the period which is probably held at NLW or was your ancestor
employed by the Railway perhaps, PRO holds records of past employees.
Hope this helps
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Nourse" <ron(a)nourse.fsnet.co.uk>
Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 7:47 PM
Subject: [Dyfed] Ancestors in Borth area, 1860's
Hello to both lists, and apologies if you receive this twice!
I have just established through the birth register for
Llanfihangel-Geneur-Glyn that my great great grandfather Thomas Christmas
Nurse was a publican at "Morfa Borth" (sic, from one register entry, in
1865) (and probably from 1862 to the late 1860's, when he returned to
Oswestry). Curiously (at least to me!), in a second register entry, in
he was recorded as "Refreshment Room Manager." TC would
have had with him
his third wife Elizabeth and several children born of his late second
(my gg grandmother), and at least the two born in the Borth area.
Can someone more knowledgeable than I am (and there are many such out
there!) suggest some way of finding out a little more about all this?
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