Thank you, Richard for your reply.
I recently Googled, "Overseers for the Poor, Pembroke Record Office" and
found an on-line booklet about the records. In the booklet, it mentions a
number of records that may contain information about the parish support of
the poor. For example:
STEYNTON Accounts 1801-1812 HPR/3/25
Accounts 1820-1824 HPR/3/28
Accounts 1824-1825 HPR/3/32
Accounts 1820-1821 HPR/3/67
Rate books 1811-1840 HPR/3/68-75
Rate book 1812-1820 HPR/3/118
I'd be interested in those pre-1812 records in the HPR series, especially
those in and around Milford Haven. The booklet mentions the reference 'SPU'
is for the records of the workhouses at Haverfordwest, Pembroke, Narbeth,
and Cardigan so that may be what your notes refer to. I don't think I need
the workhouse records.
Specifically, I am looking for support that may have been provided to
Elizabeth Barnett Obrey/Obray. I thought if I could find such a record, it
might give me a clue as to the year her husband died. She was living at
Rosemarket for a number of years, then eventually died at Pembroke Dock in
1841 (as you cited in your book). I presume she lived with her children
when she passed, but while she was raising the children, she may have needed
assistance from the parish. Her son was married at Steynton parish in 1812,
so there might be some information in the Steynton overseer records about
his mother, Elizabeth. I know he did his apprenticeship at Milford Haven
(from pay records) from at least 1805 to 1812, but I cannot find an
apprenticeship record. I thought perhaps the parish paid for the
apprenticeship and that would explain why I can't find his apprenticeship
listed in those that paid taxes.
I had a similar problem with a Scottish family I was researching, and when I
found the Overseer records for the poor, I was able to ascertain that the
father of the family had died, and the parish provided support for the
mother and children. Because the parish provided a mort cloth for the
burial of each of the family members, I was able to guesstimate when the
mother and some of her children died and find reference to money paid out
for the apprenticeships of others.
I'd like to know if there is access to the overseer records for
Pembrokeshire without having to travel to Haverfordwest. I hate flying
since we have to practically disrobe in order to board a plane. When will
the powers that be realize that old people don't pose a threat?
From: Richard Rose
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 4:11 AM
To: Lynne Ingalls
Subject: Re: [Dyfed] Overseers of the Poor
So far as I can recall from when I was working on 'Pembroke People' about 15
years ago there was no separate class of records in the Pem. R. O relating
to the Overseers of the Poor and to get an idea of what was going on before
1834 concerning the support of paupers one had to trawl through each
quarterly file of the Quarter Sessions Records. I see however that I have a
ref. to PemRO SPU/PE/2/1 but I am not sure what this is about, so it might
be worth enquiring at the Record Office. From 1834 onwards, following the
Poor Law Amendment Act of 1834, there is useful information at the National
Archives at Kew where they have abstracts of the correspondence between the
local Guardians and the Poor Law Commissioners, but 15 years ago that also
had to be trawled for. I'm not sure if there have been any recent
transcripts or facsimiles put on line to make the job easier.
Are you looking for any particulat person or topic?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lynne Ingalls" <lynne.ingalls(a)comcast.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 9:10 PM
Subject: [Dyfed] Overseers of the Poor
Hello List -
Does anyone have access to the records of Overseers of the Poor or are
they only available at the Record Office?
Lynne in Tucson
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