Yes, you are so right ... if anyone has a plethora of Williams' - it's me!
You have a great memory and you are spot on with regards to remembering my
Williams' from across the county!
Indeed, there is still the question if Sarah Williams (b.bet. 1809-1815
d.1842 / daughter of William Williams of Bletherston) who married James
Williams, may well have been his cousin? Ie. James' father John Williams
and Sarah's father William Williams, may have been brothers!?!
And, just when you thought it was all sorted ... how about adding another
Williams in the frame! I have a great great great grandmother on another
branch of my Welsh family who was a Mary Williams and she was from
Llawhaden which is of course, next door to Bletherston too! This Mary
Williams was born between 1805 - 1811 and lived until 1881. (She was
married to Richard Llewhellen of Bletherston). So, could this Mary be a
sister to Sarah Williams???
All great fun! I have heartfelt sympathy for anyone else researching the
surname Williams in Dyfed!
Thanks again Bettye for your other thoughts on Eleanor. I will look
through this in more detail as we head towards the school half term
holidays next week. All very interesting stuff!
Best wishes and happy hunting!
On 23 May 2013 05:05, Lance Kirkwood <lki59595(a)bigpond.net.au> wrote:
If anyone had a plethora of Williams it is you! Yes, I'm now at home
after 7 weeks in Qld...to a computer failure and only a partial e-mail
download onto this new touch screen model so far
(so anyone else to whom I have promised information, please contact me).
Can't help you with Eleanor Williams, but our previous correspondence
concerned others of that surname.
Correct me if I am wrong, please.
John WILLIAMS. Farmer married Mary Nicholas at Bletherston in 1797. He
died and his will was proved at Llawhaden in 1865.
His son James Williams was born 1807 and died aged 47 in 1854. James
firstly married Sarah WILLIAMS of Dobviran(?) Bletherston Parish in 1841 at
the Baptist Carmel Chapel and she died in 1842.
(Unfortunately I don't have a Bletherston Land Tax record, but someone
James' second marriage was to Dinah Devonald and they had issue.
John Williams' other son Thomas married Elizabeth Jenkins ...and they are
your ancestral interests.
Sarah WILLIAMS....James' first wife, was the daughter of William Williams.
Farmer. As she was 27 when she died, she would have been born c. 1815, but
I can't find a likely parental marriage in the 1813-37 records.
However, if she was not the eldest child in her family, she could belong
to William Williams who married Margaret Griffith at Bletherston in
1790...a bit unlikely..... or William Williams who married Catharin
Williams at Bletherston in 1797
or William Williams who married Martha Griffith at Bletherston in 1808. A
long shot is WILLIAM WILLIAM who married Sarah Thomas at Spittal in
1809...included purely because of the Sarah name and sometimes rectors
erred with spelling.
Of course, with a name as common as William Williams there are several
other likely candidates in the same Hundred...and if they were Baptists
they may have not appeared in these records at all.
As it was so very common for cousins to marry, I wonder if there was
perhaps a family connection between John Williams and William Williams.
I know, because of Sarah's death, there is no continuation of her
line.....and we have discussed in depth the Devonald connection.
(I opened The Nat. Library Wills site for one other search, but after that
one time it was no longer available today and told me to go play elsewhere,
so I haven't looked for Williams in Bletherston or surrounds) .
-----Original Message----- From: Sarah Reay
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 5:23 AM
Subject: [Dyfed] Eleanor Williams of Llandovery?
As the list has been fairly quiet recently, I thought I'd put a little
up for consideration.
Doris and I have been working on the mysterious Eleanor who died in Salem,
Oregon, USA in 1893.
We've now confirmed her roots as coming from LLANDOVERY (Carmarthenshire)
and that her maiden name was WILLIAMS