Many thanks James for responding to my e-mail. Yes I'm sure there must be some
"My" Whitlock Wiillams was born 1831 in Newport, Mon, the son of Edward and Mary
(nee Collins) Williams and is my maternal great-great grandfather. Edward Williams'
birth was c1796 at LGG and married Mary Collins at Llanbadarnfawr 10th December 1813.
Their other children include John (christened 3rd November 1814 at Aberystwyth (IGI)),
also Mary and Ann who according to the 1841 Newport census were 20 and not born in the
county. John is not present in the household at the 1841 census. Younger children, Eliza
1828, Whitlock 1831, Margaret 1834 and Susannah 1837 were all born in the county.
Edward's profession is always noted as shipwright when entered in census returns and
IGI also reveals the :-
birth of John Whitlock Williams September 1892 at Holywell, Denbighshire,
birth of Andrew Whitlock Williams September 1904 at Newport.
marriage in 1768 at LGG of Whitlock Williams (dob c1743) to Mary (dob c1747), and the
death of a Whitlock Williams in Aberystwyth 1840. This Whitlock and Mary had a son Edward
c1779, so could also be the parents of "your" Mary!
I really do hope that someday we can make the connection. Please keep in touch.
----- Original Message -----
From: James Evans
To: Jan clarke ; DYFED-L(a)rootsweb.com
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Dyfed] Fw: Unusual forenames - Whitlock
I was very interested to read your message because I too have a record of a
Whitlock Williams in Llanfihangel GG who MAY be an ancestor of mine. Let me
explain. My ancestors Evan RICHARD(S) and Mary WILLIAMS were married in
Llanfihangel GG in 1810. Evan was the son of Richard EVAN (the final use of
patronymics in this family line) and was baptised there in 1781 but Mary
WILLIAMS I am less sure about. She died of Typhus in 1837 aged 47 so was
born circa 1790 and I believe that a Mary, daughter of Whitlock WILLIAMS was
baptised there in 1789 so I have pencilled her in as a possible ancestor.
The name Whitlock was not given to any of Evan and Mary's children, though
having said that they only had one son anyway who they named Richard after
Evan's father so it may be that they never had the chance. I am sure we are
talking about the same family so I'd love to hear from you to find out what
you know about Mary. As to the name Whitlock itself I can only suggest that
perhaps it was originally the maiden surname of a woman who married into the
WILLIAMS family which then became used as a forename, this is very common.
From: Jan clarke <jan.clarke59(a)ntlworld.com>
To: DYFED-L(a)rootsweb.com <DYFED-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: 18 September 2004 09:29
Subject: [Dyfed] Fw: Unusual forenames - Whitlock
Subject: Unusual forenames - Whitlock
Have noticed with great interest, the ongoing discussion about
Averinas................can anyone help with the forename Whitlock?
I have two Whitlock Williams' so far in my "tree". Each from Llanfihangel
G'neur Glynn area, but different time slots in the C19th. I also have
several Edward Williams', and a connection to family surname Collins.
As you all know, its so difficult to connect Williams!!!
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