Llanfair ar y Bryn is a large Parish and unique as the Parish Church is not in the Parish
but in Llandovery.
At some time Llandovery obviously was part of Llanfair ar y Bryn.
For administrative purposes it was split into four townships.
Townships are not hamlets!
Here is the extract from Samuel Lewis's "A Topographical Dictionary of
Wales" published in1849. He incorrectly describes them as Hamlets and Townships. It
will give an idea where to look in the Census etc.
Possibly your best bet are Vestry Books or Poor Law records if they have survived.
RHANDIR-ABBOT, a hamlet, in the parish of Llanvair-ar-y-Bryn, union of Llandovery, Higher
division of the hundred of Perveth, county of Carmarthen, South Wales, 7 miles (N.) from
Llandovery; containing 594 inhabitants. It is situated on the eastern bank of the Towy,
and at the foot of a mountain in which are extensive leadmines belonging to Earl Cawdor.
The chapel of Nant-y-Bai is in this hamlet, having been erected instead of the original
building that was situated at Ystrad-Fin. The living is a perpetual curacy, endowed with
£200 private benefaction and £1000 royal bounty, and in the patronage of Earl Cawdor; net
income, £59. Nearly opposite Earl Cawdor's mansion of Nant-y-Mwyn, where the banks of
the river are somewhat precipitous, is a picturesque footbridge across the Towy, leading
to Pwll Pradog. The townships of Rhandir-Abbot, Rhandir-Canol, Rhandir-Isâv, and
Rhandir-Uchâv, form the parish of Llanvair-ar-y-Bryn, which see.
RHANDIR-CANOL, a hamlet, in the parish of Llanvair-ar-y-Bryn, union of Llandovery, Higher
division of the hundred of Perveth, county of Carmarthen, South Wales, 5½ miles (N. E.)
from Llandovery; containing 314 inhabitants. It forms, as the name implies, the middle
division of the parish, and is situated on the left bank of the river Towy.
RHANDIR-ISÂV, a hamlet, in the parish of Llanvair-ar-y-Bryn, union of Llandovery, Higher
division of the hundred of Perveth, county of Carmarthen, South Wales, 3 miles (N. E. by
N.) from Llandovery; containing 477 inhabitants. The romantic river Brân flows through it,
and has some pleasing residences on its banks, the principal of which is Glàn-Brân. The
hamlet is well wooded, and the road from Llandovery to Builth here passes along the left
bank of the river, and through GlànBrân Park.
RHANDIR-UCHÂV, a hamlet, in the parish of Llanvair-ar-y-Bryn, union of Llandovery, Higher
division of the hundred of Perveth, county of Carmarthen, South Wales, 7 miles (N. E.)
from Llandovery; containing 264 inhabitants. It is situated in a mountainous district,
near the source of the river Brân, on the border of Brecknockshire.
Message Received: Aug 28 2014, 09:44 AM
From: "Jennifer Cairns via"
To: "Adrian" , "Dyfed List"
Subject: Re: [Dyfed] LLANFAIR AR Y BRYN PARISH REGISTERS
I suggest that Rhandir Ucha in the parish register was not a specific dwelling, but a
Rhandir was a early term for a unit of land division.
and also Genuki has info via a Llanfair-ar-y-Bryn entry
and pretty much the same here:-
There were several hamlets using the term Rhandir in Llanfair-ar-y-bryn.
Rhandir-Abbot, [Rhandir Abad]
but these were hamlets and not individual cottages/houses etc. It was probably somewhere
around Rhandir Mwyn according to one of the urls above. You would need to look at an old
map to make certain.
The term rhandir was a land unit term used in early mediaeval times, and three or four
rhandiroedd (or other numbers depending where you were) constituted a tref or town
settlement. Thats a very brief definition!
Hope that helps
From: Adrian via
To: Dyfed List
Sent: Thursday, 28 August 2014, 7:08
Subject: [Dyfed] LLANFAIR AR Y BRYN PARISH REGISTERS
A number of my PARRY forebears were living in Llanfair ar y Bryn c
Ann PARRY aged 52 was buried there on 15 January 1835 and John PARRY
aged 19 was buried on 21 February 1837. Both entries show the abode of
Rhandir Ucha. Where exactly is/was that, please?
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