I am on the Devon list and fortunately have traced my paternal line in Devon back to
The problem I and a fellow researcher have is finding more information on John Jones,
Coedmawr , Gwynfil who died around 1800. He left a will in which he states that he
purchased the properties from John Edwards , Abermeurig, but no date . I spent a day at
NLW going through Abermeurig papers hoping to find some reference to the sale of Coedmawr
and related properties to John Jones of ? but there was nothing. There are very few
deaths of JJ's in Llandewibrefi and surrounds around this time. I did follow a JJ
Rhiwhalog who owned land in LDB and died around the same time (though in the wrong
parish) in the hope that our JJ may have retired there and especially as there were lead
mines in the area - JJ must have made money somewhere to buy Coedmawr . This proved a
dead end. Francis Jones refers to a Jones family at Coedmawr at an earlier date but we
have been unable to establish a link - they could have been tenants of Abermeurig before
a later generation purchased the property.
We have looked at several Jones wills and pedigrees in the hope of something popping up
and are now trying to systematically go through any document which may contain information
of use- I think it used to be called clutching at straws!
My eyes lit up when I saw that David Jones, Wallington had made abstracts of all wills (
though some of his work is now missing) and also constructed pedigrees as this could be a
quick way of eliminating some wills and concentrating on the ones likely to yield fruit
, especially if some of these wills are no longer available elsewhere and they are very
difficult for me to read. Similarly, there are other pedigrees constructed by individuals
in the 1800's which are in various archives which could give us some clues.
As I do not have the skills to organise an indexing project , I was hoping some
organisation like an FHS would consider the project particularly as one of the kind
people who replied says the DJ manuscripts are not in very good condition and even
photocopying them would be a help in preserving this unique source.
Thanks for your interest.
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 17:00:33 +0000
To: rob(a)robweeks.plus.com; glamorgan(a)rootsweb.com; dyfed(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [GLA] David Jones, Wallington
It might be possible to get advice from The DEVON list who have done much work on Wills.
Try Brian RandallAlso many S Wales families have links with Devon and Somerset as people
crossed the Bristol Channel.
From: Rob Weeks via <glamorgan(a)rootsweb.com>
To: Glam list <glamorgan(a)rootsweb.com>; Dyfed List <dyfed(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, 6 February 2015, 12:44
Subject: [GLA] David Jones, Wallington
Many thanks for the replies. My aim was to make more people aware of this resource and
hopefully create some interest in putting the information on a searchable database as like
Graham, a lot of us are unable to visit Cardiff or NLW on a regular basis .
Bob's reply to the Glam list has confirmed it is an excellent source and Jeff's
reply to Dyfed has pointed out that some wills abstracted by David Jones can no longer be
located, so even more important that this information is made more widely available . Also
as I pointed out , the MI's were done many years ago so could very well contain
information which was lost before the excellent work on MI indexing.
My computer skills are limited but I do know enough to realise that it is possible to put
the will abstracts and the MI's on a searchable database without too much hassle which
would save us all a lot of effort in the future. The wills on line at NLW are a very
useful source but can be difficult to read particularly if your eyesight is getting worse
like mine. Having spent many days trying to read older wills only to find there is no
possible connection to my family , I would appreciate a searchable database which would
narrow down the number of wills I have to try and decipher.
Similarly, pedigrees constructed by individuals in the distant past can give us valuable
pointers of where to look next. I appreciate they may not be accurate but there is often
a very limited amount of material available pre 1800 so these can be a very good starting
point. A searchable database of all the old pedigrees could be very useful.
I appreciate there is lot of work involved and would be very happy to help.
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