Dear Ron and Bettye
Now I am getting confused. I thought we had already clarified who Davids
parents were. They are shown in the census as Daniel and Anne Edwards. Anne
was from Bridell where they lived and Daniel Edwards married Ann Bowen in
Bridell on the 3rd December 1829.
Daniel was born in Llechryd Cardiganshire by the look of it.
What exactly is your problem Ron?
Pembrokeshire Census, Memorials, Hearths,
Orielton CD's and Baptist Sketches at
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From: "LC & BJ Kirkwood" <lki59595(a)bigpond.net.au>
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Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Dyfed] PEM, Llanfairnantgwyn, EDWARDS, 1832- Unknown
I don't know about you, but I am getting really confused.
I have just found in the Cilgerran records the marriage of David Edward of
Llantood to Mary Daniel on April 5th., 1794...both of whom signed with a
cross. I wonder if this is how the family flirtation with the first name
of Daniel came about.
Then there is the marriage of Daniel Edward of Llantood and Ann Daniel at
Cilgerran in 1808. Fourteen years between these two males could indicate
they were brothers or perhaps cousins.
I know we are looking for the parents of DAVID EDWARDS, born at
Llanfairnantgwyn who would be 9 in the 1841 census, 19 in 1851, but my
records in this regard are very sketchy. It is possible to get a list of
David Edwards in the 1851 Pemb. census from the Records Office at
Haverfordwest, as this census is indexed.....which might locate him. I do
not have this census material.
It would seem most likely that David was a son of the David Edwards and
his wife Anne who lived at Bridell in 1881...but absolutely no
proof........the father being born Llanfairnantgwyn..(as was the 12 years
old Daniel, his eldest child shown in 1881 census) and it is possible that
this couple had children who had left home, older than Daniel and probably
sent out to work. David was 37 years of age when Daniel was born at
Llanfairnantgwyn so it is possible he could have had another son ten years
older. A John Edwards of Bridell married Charlotte Williams at Cardigan
St. Mary in 1826....and they could be possible candidates for parents of
someone born 1832, but the names David gave his children of whom we
actually know, makes that appear unlikely.
There are two David Edwards aged 49 in the 1881 census.....one born at
Llechryd in 1832 who is possibly some relation of William Edwards of
Llechryd who married Catherine George at St. Mary's Cards. in 1836...but
the parentage of David Edwards born Llanfairnantgwyn in the same year, who
married Anne ( born Llantood 1833) is still a mystery to me. Both David
Edwards were Farm Labourers so could well have been itinerant workers,
themselves children of itinerant workers who moved from area to area
locally wherever work was available.
There were Edwards in Llantood who may have been related in some way...one
(or more) of whom was a Daniel who seems to have been a tenant farmer
there from 1786 to at least 1831 when Land Tax records began and ended.
(and it is possible that one born c. 1780 was the one who married in 1808
to Ann Daniel. In the 1841 census at Llantood a Daniel Edwards was shown
as aged 60 as was his wife Anne. Of course ages could be rounded down in
1841, so he could be somewhere between 60 and 65) .
If you find out that you do have some connection to the Anne Bateman
mentioned by Bill Griffith-Jones, then I can certainly fill you in with
the Bateman information.
I still believe that you need to obtain a birth certificate for one
of...Daniel Edwards born Llanfairnantgwyn 1869, Anne born 1872 or William
Bettye Kirkwood, Australia.