Wow! You must have a vast amount of resources for this area. Thanks so
much for taking the time.
To answer you question:
In the 1851 Census,
Haverfordwest St Mary district 4c pg 26
128 Thomas N Phillips head 43 cutler Haverfordwest
then list rest of family
129 Moses Phillips head wid 73 no occupation or birthplace listed.
I am assuming from the solid ink drawn line above Thomas and the indented
line after his family and the entry for Moses and then the solid line below
Moses that it is indicating they live in the same building. In the 1841
census it is clear they live together and Moses is a chandler.
The only child in IGI bon Haverfordwest to Moses and Elizabeth Phillips is
Moses John PHILLIPS. CHRISTENING: C081081 1799 - 1875 0105143 Moses
Philipps and Eliz.
There are ties and more kids bon in Sussex, but I haven't found Thomas N
(Nash) born 1808 Haverfordwest
The marriage of Moses to Elizabeth EVANS in 1798 looks very likely.
Thanks again, Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: "LC & BJ Kirkwood" <lki59595(a)bigpond.net.au>
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Dyfed] Relationship of David, Thomas,and Moses PHILLIPS of
For Fred Seamons
>From what you have shown I figure that Thomas could belong to either Moses
or David...you will probably have to seek a baptism record. There are
foolscap pages of marriages for the various spellings of Philipps/Phillips
etc. in Rhos Hundred to 1813.
A Moses Phillips in 1754 married Anne Morgan at Haverfordwest St. Mary and
Moses Phillips in 1758 married Dorothy Evans at H/west St. Mary
the same bridegroom). Because of the rarity of the name, this might
to the ancestry you seek.
A Moses Philipps in 1781 at Haverfordwest St. Martin married Lettice
and a Moses Phillips in 1798 at Haverfordwest St. Mary married Elizabeth
Evans. This latter couple seem likely to be the Moses you mentioned born
as his wife was Elizabeth.
A David Phillips married Elizabeth Phelps at Haverfordwest St. Thomas in
1803. A Benjamin Phelps in 1779 at Haverfordwest St. Mary married Mary
Roch......possible parents for Elizabeth.
In the 1851 census if Thomas is still living with Moses is nothing at all
shown about their relationship?
Unfortunately I could not find any truly relevant Wills, but there was one
for a Thomas Phillips proved at Haverfordwest in 1828......might be worth
look at the abstract from Haverfordwest Records Office....and there are
several for the surname Roch at H/west....Elinor St. Martins Town &
1753, John T & C 1735, Lettice H/west 1841 and Philip 1769.
No proof about anything...but perhaps things for you to work from.
Bettye Kirkwood, Australia.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred Seamons" <fseamons(a)ubtanet.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 4:41 AM
Subject: [Dyfed] Relationship of David, Thomas,and Moses PHILLIPS of
> Hi list,
> Help please.
> Just received death cert. for David PHILLIPS d 23 Jul 1864 age 84
> It was sign by Thos N PHILLIPS, Present at the death, Dew Street
> I traced Thomas in the census and he was born abt 1808, Haverfordwest,
> cutler. In 1841 he was living with Moses PHILLIPS, bn abt 1778, (bn
> Haverfordwest in 1851 census a widow) and Elizabeth bn abt 1774. In 1851
> Moses is a wid., but occupation and birth place is blank still living
> Thomas. David is a mason, bn abt 1783 in Walton West/Nolton with wife
> At first I thought Thomas was David's son, but after checking the
> census's it looks like he might be his nephew, with Moses being David's
> brother and the father of Thomas.
> I'm hoping someone has already solved this and knows how their related
> and might have the birth date and parents for the Thomas, David and
> Thanks for having this list, it's the best I've seen. Fred
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