Hi All, I remember this happening when I was quite young. The Congregational
Church in Neath poached a minister from Llanelli and because Mother was from
Llanelli she was asked in a roundabout way to discover if he had any known
It was common to ask other ministers to visit and preach especially at
Special Services, do not remember what they were for but could have been
anniversary services. Ministers were asked not to preach for longer than
about 20 minutes, one went on and on interminably and we watched all the
females in the congregation slip out very quietly, so that they could rescue
the sunday roast
We entertained a number for Sunday lunch and tea and as a youngster it was
quite an ordeal.
I think it still happens but with both a shortage of ministers and a closure
or downsizing of independant churches many now have to share a minister.
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From: "Gareth" <gareth(a)tytwp.plus.com>
To: "Dyfed" <Dyfed(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 6:31 PM
Subject: [Dyfed] Poaching ministers?
"rhoddodd yr eglwys alwad i......"
"The church gave a call to...."
In translating Ind chapel histories from the Hanes volumes I've been
by the regularly recorded practice of 'giving a call' by a chapel without
minister to a serving minister of another chapel to move to them.
At first sight it seems to have similarities to a football team poaching
manager of another club.
I have this vision of teams of deacons scouting the countryside on
listening in to other ministers' sermons, and judging their 'chapel
even perhaps sounding out their 'transfer status' !
Rarely, the minister declined to move, but in most cases I've read, he
Of course, the chapel losing its minister may then have been without one,
sometimes for some time, as in years.
I guess it was perhaps a form of career progression, the new chapel might
have been bigger (congregation)= more pay ?
Or with an impressive religious reputation ?
Or in a part of the country that had some appeal to the incoming minister,
his county/parish of birth perhaps ?
Or he was not happy where he was?
Anyone have a more factually based explanation for what seems a strange
practice to me, wasteful in some ways.
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