Thanks for you email. I have not found him in any of the federal census. It is possible
that he was chasing the gold rush, or that alternatively he was just trying to make a
fresh start and put his past behind him. Having been transported for life, he could not
return to Wales after he was given a conditional pardon, because as I understand it, if he
had have done so, he would have been executed.
Its also possible that he hadnt mended his ways, and American justice was less kind to him
than the British justice!! Maybe one day a record will turn up on line which will at
least tell me when he died, but I doubt that any of us will ever know anything more than
From: "cardi2(a)aol.com" <cardi2(a)aol.com>
Sent: Friday, 26 June, 2009 0:45:19
Subject: [Dyfed] Australia to California
During the California Gold Rush, ships were daily sailing into San Francisco Bay with gold
seekers from Australia and other countries in the world, including Wales.? California had
one state census - 1852.? It won't say where your ancestor came from other than the
country but you might find them there.? Did your check the 1870-1880 censuses for your
ancestor?? And if he survived to 1900, it should say when he arrived in the USA, was he a
citizen and when he became a citizen.
I have a relative who was in San Francisco in April 1906 and was never heard from again.?
I can only presume that he was one of those "unknown dead" from the San
Francisco Earthquake.? His brother and later his nephew were never able to find anything
Megan Roberts <welshladymegan(a)yahoo.co.uk>
VAL HAMILTON <vhamilton(a)shaw.ca>; dyfed(a)rootsweb.com
Re: [Dyfed] Ancestry.com
Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:28:49 +0000 (GMT)
I think that you should never discount any source as you never know what it
In 1835 an ancestor (not a direct one) was transported to New South Wales for
horse stealing.? He married out there, had 2 children who died young and then he
and his wife to all intents and purposes disappeared and no further trace could
Then last year, on Ancestry.com
I found an entry in the applications for
American Naturalisation in Northern California in 1868, which could only be him
as he has a unique name in the family tree, but there was no record of his
wife.? A couple of months later I managed to confirm this, by finding in?an
historic Australia newspapers a list of passengers departing Sydney for San
Francisco, where lo and behold was this chap and his wife.
For the moment the story ends there - I don't know why they went, or what
happend to them, but you never know what records are going to pop up on the
internet and move you one step on!
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