Thanks for this info on Carmarthen Academy It must have been where my
relative - John Jones, of course - went before he became a Williams scholar.
He never quite made it to the Ministry, but he has certainly brightened
up the large list of Joneses that I have!
Here is something I wrote about him for the Cardiganshire FHS Journal:
The Williams scholarships were set up under the will of Dr Daniel Williams
of Library fame, the nonconformist who died in January 1715/6. They were
awarded to young men who wished to train as nonconformist ministers, of any
denomination, and candidates were selected by competitive examination in
Latin, Greek, Mathematics and the Scriptures. One of the manuscripts held
in Dr Williams’ Library (in Gordon Square, London) contains biographical
notes of the Williams Scholars. Here is the relevant entry from MS38.57:
Student cxxxv Appointed September 1834.
Jones (John), student at Carmarthen, previous
to his appointment. Though a man of very good abilities,
he was in the course of the session 1835-6, deprived of
the Exhibition, and obliged to leave College on account
of habits of drunkenness and immorality. Every
endeavour had been used to reclaim him. His
full exhibition was, however, paid to him for that,
as well as the preceding session.
Oh dear! So he never got his degree. The full exhibition was £40 per
annum in 1834, which was a lot of money in poverty-stricken upland
Cardiganshire. It seems that the money and the freedom went to John’s head. He
was already 23 years old, and perhaps his maturity made him more inclined to
kick over the traces after so many years’ study.
I had thought the list of Williams Scholars might have held a significant
number of Welsh names, but the trustees found it difficult to get suitable
candidates to come forward. John Jones was only the 135th scholar in the
whole of Britain in about 100 years of the award.
In a message dated 26/08/2009 22:13:29 GMT Daylight Time, acjj(a)clara.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andy Philpin" <andrewphilpin(a)hotmail.co.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 6:24 PM
Subject: [Dyfed] Carms: Carmarthen Academy for Preacher training
Does anybody know if the Carmarthen Academy (College) for Preacher
training is still in existence or where any records from it would be
housed. I would appreciate any help you can give.
From: "Gareth" <tirbach(a)clara.co.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 6:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Dyfed] Carms: Carmarthen Academy for Preacher training
May not have the specific answer to your question but the Carmarthen
The key points being:
* The history of the original academy is long and convoluted,
* the College closed in 1963
* "Oriel Coleg Presbyteraidd Caerfyrddin, 1796-1899" by E Pan Jones,
Tydfil, 1909 ... consists of a chronological collection of biographies of
students, many enlivened with photographs of the individuals concerned, and
has an alphabetical index ... It has a smattering of biographies in
alongside those in Welsh."
* The Presbyterian College, was restricted to theology from 1895. There are
records for the period 1820-1951 at National Library of Wales.
* Attended by students from a variety of different nonconformist
* Not to be confused with Trinity College/Trinity University College,
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