Many thanks for your reply, of course you did give the comprehensive information below,
and I am eternally grateful,but,DOH! I can't seem to get my head around it and make
I will look at the will again and see what I can do about it :0)
Thank you so much, you are so good and patient with me.
To: manxie55(a)hotmail.co.uk; dyfed(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [Dyfed] BATINE surname query
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 14:55:53 +1100
I can't tell you the origin of the surname, and I thought, obviously
incorrectly, I had given you plenty of clues to follow with the article by
Major Jones "Lloyds of Hendre and Cwmgloyne" in which it is stated that the
nine children of Evan Williams of Trellyffant, Nevern who died in 1803 and
his wife Anne daughter of Evan Llewelin of Llandre included No. 7 "Elizabeth
Williams, baptised in 1770, married Thomas Batine of Llanwnwr, Llanwnda
parish. She died on 25 July 1853 and her husband on 21 February 1855, both
aged 84. One of their seven children, namely Bridget Batine, married on 29
July 1828 John Williams (died 1869 aged 68) of Felindre near St.
Thomas Batine married Elizabeth Williams in 1802 at Nevern. His Will is
easily accessible on The National Library of Wales - pre 1858 Wills
Thomas Batine, Gentleman, left a comprehensive Will in which his daughter
Elizabeth played a major role, but he also mentioned Bridget Williams of
Granston, a granddaughter Ann Clement James, other James grandchildren but
not my name, and his daughter Eleanor James. The last item in the Will is
a statement by John James, Eleanor's husband that Elizabeth's surname is
shown incorrectly in the Will, and that she is at that time Elizabeth
Please go on-line and check it out for yourself. Someone may be able to
give you more information about these families. or you could perhaps chase
them through census entries.
Under Llanwnwr, Llanwnda, Major Jones wrote "1789 Thomas Griffith, Esq. gave
a lease of Llanwnwr (minerals excepted), and certain rooms reserved to
lessor) to William Batine of Barrett's Hill, Steynton, gent for the lives of
William's wife Dorothy and their children, Thomas and Mary Batine.
Thomas Batine the son remained there till his death in 1855. The family of
Mortimer (from Trehowel) came to live there......."
I'm sorry....I had William Batine's will abstract in my hand only the other
day, but it has disappeared into my boxes, but you can also look at it on
Bettye Kirkwood, Australia.
---- Original Message -----
From: "Carol Lloyd"
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 12:44 PM
Subject: [Dyfed] BATINE surname query
> Dear List,
> I have had such a great deal of help from you in the recent past with my
> JAMES/JOHN/LLOYD and connected families from Pembroke, and I am loathe to
> ask again, but, I do have a question to ask if I may?
> Where can I find the Parents/Siblings of Eleanor BATINE who married John
> JAMES, Farmer of Pencnwc Farm, in the parish of Dinas in 1839?
> I am intrigued by her surname?
> I have tried googling the name BATINE and it appears that it is Spanish in
> origin, would anyone know if that is correct please?
> Many thanks for any help offered,
> Kindest Regards,
> Carol Lloyd
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