Hi Bettye and Carol,
I am sorry Carol if I have drawn attention away from your search for
"Batine" I should be very interested to know of your search results. I
wonder why someone of that name lived in North Pembs? The |Peregrine study
has nearly defeated me! and Bettye I have heard of the strong possibility
that the name is interchangeable with Perkins. There were many Perkins on
the borders of Pembs and Carms in the 19th Century but have now "dried up"
One tale given me was that 12 brothers came into Milford Haven as refugees
around 1600 and scattered throughout Dyfed((apparently f rom the
Netherlands) I was told this by a much respected chapel minister whose
mother was a Peregrine of Carms. I wish I had not heard that tale as it
has really confused me!! Carol I hope you have a successful search!
----- Original Message -----
From: "LC & BJ Kirkwood" <lki59595(a)bigpond.net.au>
To: "yvonne evans" <a.y.evans(a)homecall.co.uk>; "Carol Lloyd"
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Dyfed] BATINE surname query
Here is the first paragraph I have written for my own Peregrine..........I
am not saying I am correct.....but this is what my own research has
Bettye Kirkwood, Australia.
Peregrine Devonald was an original.a "one-off". No other Devonald, before
or since, appears to have borne the given name of Peregrine. "Peregrine"
is a fairly rare, though recognised surname in Wales and is said to have
derived from the latinisation of the name Perkins. The "peregrini" were
travellers, pilgrims..Celtic Saints who travelled between Britain and
Ireland. Peregrine Devonald's ancestry may have foundations, at present
unknown, in a family surnamed Peregrine. Perkin de Hoda appears in
Pembrokeshire history, as does David Gwilym Perkin descended from the
illustrious ruler of Deheubarth, Rhys ap Tewdwr. Peregrine could descend
from undiscovered Devonalds, or his unknown mother may have had some
connection to a Perkin. As Peregrine named his son William, it is
possible, and considered most likely, that he descended from William
Devonald, one of the five sons of James Devonald who died in 1584/5 from
his second marriage to Angharad, daughter of Thomas Lloyd of Vagwr Goch,
. I have ancestors with French sounding name who have
> been in Pembs and South Cards since around 1700. That surname is
> am still trying to sort it out!
> Best wishes
> Yvonne Evans