Hello Anne & Paul,
Here are some responses:
Bapt of Thomas Evans about 1796:
there is a Thomas son of Elias & Jane Evans bapt 11 Nov 1795 at Llanarth
there are no addresses in the register in this period
Magdalen dau of Griffith & Elizabeth Thomas of Llanina was bapt 31 Mar 1802
Hannah dau of Griffith & Elizabeth Thomas of Llanina was bapt 3 Jul 1803
Are you following all siblings? There are seven other bapts to these
parents - several names repeated implying the earlier infant died.
Magdalen Thomas of Llanina marr Thomas Evans of Llanarth 17 Nov 1820
Hannah Thomas, S, of Llanina, marr David Jones, W, of Llanarth 28 Jul 1828
there is also a marriage at Llanina 20 Jan 1843 between:
Lewis Thomas of Oernant, ofa, B, Farmer, son of Griffith, Farmer, &
Mary Thomas of Gilfachreda, ofa, S, dau of James Thomas, Shipwright
and several other marriages of children of a Griffith Thomas - not
specifying Oernant but some will probably be children of the same Griffith.
Griffith Thomas of Oernant was buried 8 Jan 1853 aged 82
Elizabeth Thomas of Oernant was buried 30 Dec 1839 aged 63
You mentioned Llawrcwrt; here are some burials, all of that address:
Griffith Jones, 2, 6 May 1834
Thomas Jones, 8 mths, 14 Mar 1840
David Jones, 52, 20 Jun 1846 of "Llawcwrt, Llandysiliogogo"
Hannah Jones, 45, 1 Mar 1848
There are a lot of references to Rhydlydan but no Thomas surname that I can
That's quite a lot, more than I expected to find. I suspect the
registers can tell you more, but you need to let me know what you are interested in.
In a message dated 25/07/2010 11:26:50 GMT Daylight Time,
Hello Bill, Paul, & List,
Thought I had better sort out my facts in case I have missed something
in my correspondence with Paul. The Pencnwc family was just a
suggestion as it seemed to allow a possibility of Thomas EVANS,
Pontbrenddu fitting into it.
Yes, Llwyncelyn does have a cemetery and it was said to have had over
600 commemorated there a few years ago. Pontbrenddu was often called
Thomas EVANS of Pontbrenddu, was born c.1796, and died 2 July 1864.
Would there be a baptism for him c.1796? He was buried in Llwyncelyn
according to the National Burial Index (NBI), but it seems that his wife
Magdalen, although mentioned on his grave, was buried in St David's
Church, Henfynyw on 6 June 1864 age 56. This seems strange as they died
within a month of each other. Her age fits, but the NBI does not give
placenames, so we cannot confirm that she was of Pontbrenddu.
Magdalen was a daughter of Griffith THOMAS, Oernant, Llanina CGN: his
wife died pre-1841 census so we do not know her name. Magdalen THOMAS &
Thomas EVANS married before 1823 as John, their first known son, was
born about then.
Griffith THOMAS, Magdalen's father, was buried in St David's Church,
Llanarth, age 82 on 8 Jan 1853. Griffith made a WILL on 25 April 1851
which mentioned the following children:
my son Thomas THOMAS;
my grandchildren of Llawrcwrt
my daughter Magdalen, wife of Thomas EVANS, Pontbrendu
my son Lewis THOMAS
my daughter Mary, wife of James JONES, who lives with me at Oernant. She
was sole executor.
I had heard that Magdalen had a sister Hannah of Llawrcwrt and a brother
Thomas of Rhydlydan. Have found Rhydlydan, but not Llawrcwrt or Llawr
Court etc. I found interesting bits of history about Llawr Cwrt park,
and King John, etc. but I still can't get to it on Census 1841 to see if
there was a Hannah there as we don't have a surname for her. Anyone
else interested in Llawrcwrt?
On 23/07/2010 22:38, BILLGJ(a)aol.com wrote:
Thanks for your email. I am afraid there is a but - I am not in a
position to answer the question as you have posed it.
What I do have is an index to the parish registers deposited at the NLW
- Llanarth, Llanina, Dihewid.