In a message dated 30/5/98 06:59:53 GMT, you write:
<< Subj: Re: (Camarthenshire) Family History Society
Date: 30/5/98 06:59:53 GMT
As a member of Carmarthenshire FHS I find the service which Carmarthenshire
FHS provide better than any other relevant Society or available webb site
including, the lookup service, which appears to have purchased what
FHS have produced, but cannot compete with the available indexes etc, which
the Society holds.
I would suggest that anyone researching in Carmarthenshire take a look at the
Carmarthen FHS webb site, as this will save them a lot of needless research
the first place.
The lookup exchange is excellent, so are, the Genuk pages, but they do not
specialize in Carmarthenshire as Carmarthen FHS does.
Carmarthenshire FHS Member
I raised the matter with you as I was genuinly interested in your reasons for
recommending one FHS over the other.
Perhaps you were being diplomatic in your use of the phrase "any other
relevant society" :-) We all know you mean Dyfed FHS, since it's the only
You also , in passing, compare the CMN FHS with Genuki and the Lookup
Exchange, the latter offer free access to general and specific data, the
emphasis being on free.Their CMN dedicated pages do specialise in CMN by
Is your comparison not with CMN FHS but really with the S&WWGI though ? An
assumed commercial setup owned privately by Mr&Mrs James selling indexes on
disk/CD ? If it isn't commercial in the accepted sense then I will be happy to
revise my position.
It would appear that the S&WWGI, as an asset, is not "owned " by the CMN
at all, the actual relationship is not clear to me.
I am a member of Dyfed FHS, with an elected Executive , certainly a non
I have also purchased several indexes from the South and West Wales
Genealogical Index and have been happy with the service they give under that
I freely express my admiration for the imagined effort and dedication put in
by Mr&Mrs James personally in producing the considerable store of genealogical
indexes held by the S&WWGI.
I did however decline an invitation to join the CMN FHS, principally because
I saw it as undemocratic in its structure with obvious and current links to
the S&WWGI .
The question "why exactly is this being set up" bothered me, although I have
no reason whatsoever to take issue with the rationale outlined by Mr&Mrs James
I suppose I also wondered about the appropriateness of the use of the
description of "FHS", clearly not exactly the same setup as the traditional
FHSs we all belong to, but perhaps not an entirely different animal either !
I do believe some of "my difficulties" with CMN FHS arise from just such a
comparison with the "traditional FHS ", perhaps I'm just being too
In fact a society without a committee may strike some people as a distinct
improvement on "the traditional " ! :-)
Whatever, the CMN FHS may well appeal to others so,in all fairness given my
declared personal reservations, I show below some extracts from their website
I downloaded this evening so that Dyflisters can make up their own minds about
I remain a committed supporter and member of the Dyfed FHS, and will quite
happily buy research material from the S&WWGI in future. No clash for me
Carmarthenshire FHS Web site extracts.
Who We Are! and Why?
We are Pauline and Richard James, Who have been operating the South and West
Wales Genealogical Index for several years, as a research and indexing
platform. We have had a considerable amount of questions from many people
around the world.
Some of these questions were :- why not start an FHS?, What other interests do
you cover?, Is there a Society that covers Carmarthenshire?, Can we come and
visit your library?.
So, we have decided to start the Carmarthenshire FHS.
We looked into the legality of this, and we found that we can call ourselves a
society, and that the cost of membership would cover the costs of running the
society, i.e. Journal, Indexes, Webb Site, Postage, Stationary etc.
1. A member of the society would not have any liabilities.
2. There will be no Members meetings. (At this stage, but meetings could be
arranged on the WWW at a later stage)
3. there will be no committee, It will be a privately run Society, but members
will be able to state their views, similar to Compuserve or AOL etc. Where a
is paid to use and receive what is available.
We are also looking into the possibility of opening a Research Library in the
near future, which will be based in Llanelli.
I hope this covers most things, if there are any further questions, I am sure
can cover these.
What Members Will Receive
1. A Journal of the Society, 3 times a year, April,
August & December, this can either be sent by E-Mail,
on hardcopy by postal service.
2. A copy of the Parish Marriages of the members
choice, Pre 1837, 1 per year, and one parish per year
3. A colour printout of the Parish Church of the
4. A map of Carmarthenshire, with commencement dates
5. A copy of 1813-1837 Carmarthenshire marriages will
be available for searching to all members, who will be
given a password to view the index, other indexes will
be added as they become available.
6. The Complete index of St Davids Diocese Testators
Wills Index 1751-1858 will be available for searching
to all Members, who will be given a password to view
7. A regular weekly update of new members and members
interests, on the webb page.
8. Regular lists and information from other members,
Members articles will be included on the Webb page,
including a link to members Webb Page URL's
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