Hello, Maureen Jenkins, ...... and many thanks for your interest in my
quest for John the blacksmith. Replying via Dyfed, as I don't know your
individual email address.
I note your message :-
William - base son of John Williams, Blacksmith and Annie Morgan
27 July 1807 Bapt., Llanelli P.R.
Thanks for this; I have to consider every possibility, especially when the
crops up. My grandfather's name was William Williams, so, is this where
the William comes from I wonder. The name was used 2 generations earlier in
the family, not before, and only once since.
I would never have looked in Llanelli. The only areas I have considered
most likely to produce results are Llanboidy, Llanwinio, Llangan, Henllan
Amgoed, Cilgerran, and Eglwysfair.
I'm wandering all over the place bit by bit, looking for blacksmiths, or
coopers, or farriers.
I've found 2 blacksmiths and one cooper, all named John Williams so far,
and that was all, until you found me this one. But, I have no firm
thoughts as to which one really could be my John Williams the blacksmith as
yet, if indeed one of them is.
I guess that, fathering a son, the John Williams you found would have been
at least around 18 years in 1807, which puts his own birth circa 1890 - or
earlier. That would fit, if I have a generation gap!
I WISH I knew where Johnny boy nailed the horses.
I take it that 'base son' means illegitimate?
Only asking - but I suppose this is all you know about this William, the
base son, and parents?
I wonder did the mother, Annie Morgan, die in childbirth? ie 'young'.
Still, this little lead could take me off in another direction. I've gotta
find him - that elusive John!
Confusingly, my great grandfather' father was named as John Williams,
blacksmith, on his son's (John junior) marriage certificate of 1856 when
John jnr was stated as 21 years. Since the father was not stated as
deceased, I have presumed he was still alive in 1856 - but I could be wrong
in thinking that. I believe there was little contact between father and
son, according to family stories, so John jnr may not have known if his
father was alive or not.
Right or wrong, I have presumed that John Wms the blacksmith had a son John
Wms junior, circa 1834/5. Yet, I also feel that I probably have a
generation gap. Could this base son William be IT? Most confusing!
Thanks again, Dilys, Essex at