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Hi Diana and Sue,
As a newcomer to genealogy I would like to know more about this method of
research. Does one have to subscribe to IGI as I do to Ancestry?
I would appreciate some advice on the way to go.
Len in Oz
>Have been playing with your tip for finding children of marriage.
>I have done this in a different form using IGI ,entering only father 's
>full name and mother first name( with my way if you enter anything else you
>get a red message telling you of!!!)
>I tested your method as it seemed to me to, potentially cut out a lot of
>other partners when you have very common names(mine were Lewis Morgans and
>However it only threw up two which were correct Thomas 1874,,AND William
>1876 but not the other three.
>My entry for your way, as you indicated then,
> Lewis MORGANS
>DATE USED 1890
>Marriage was in 1870
>children not shown were Mary 1872, Martha 1878,Clara 1880
>Any ideas what I may be doing wrong?
>It is a very useful way to find families .
>There is another curious thing sometimes when, in family search I click on
>familybottom right when spouses shown with such information as known on
>full page display .Sometimes you get them all sometimes only one !Funny
>things happen with this new fangled IT.
>Cheers and thanks for origina ltip.
>Sue in LLantrisant.
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Could I please request a lookup for, Thomas Mortimer and wife Elinor on the 1841 cencus.Prendergast Pembrokeshire
They may have moved from Camrose Pembrokshire.
Living with them could be.
Stephen age 19 born Camrose.
John age 16 born Camrose
Elizabeth age 12 born Prendergast.
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Here are your ORMOND family in 1861
PRO Ref RG9 Piece No 4153 Folio 48 Page 44 Schedule No 227
Marsh Road, St. Mary's, Tenby
John Ormond, Head, Mar, 50, Farmer of 90 Acres employing 2 men, born St.
Sarah Ormond, Wife, Mar, 60, - , born Carew
John Ormond, Son, Un, 14, Carter, born Tenby
Thomas Ormond, Son, Un, 16, Carter, born Tenby
1 Female Servant
Bye for now
Have been playing with your tip for finding children of marriage.
I have done this in a different form using IGI ,entering only father 's full name and mother first name( with my way if you enter anything else you get a red message telling you of!!!)
I tested your method as it seemed to me to, potentially cut out a lot of other partners when you have very common names(mine were Lewis Morgans and Rachel)
However it only threw up two which were correct Thomas 1874,,AND William 1876 but not the other three.
My entry for your way, as you indicated then,
DATE USED 1890
Marriage was in 1870
children not shown were Mary 1872, Martha 1878,Clara 1880
Any ideas what I may be doing wrong?
It is a very useful way to find families .
There is another curious thing sometimes when, in family search I click on familybottom right when spouses shown with such information as known on full page display .Sometimes you get them all sometimes only one !Funny things happen with this new fangled IT.
Cheers and thanks for origina ltip.
Sue in LLantrisant.
On 30/5/06 05:30, "Margaret Holmes" <margaret.holmes4(a)ntlworld.com> wrote:
> I am researching the Meddins/ Medyns /Meden family of Montgomeryshire and have
> recently found references to Flemish weavers in Pembrokeshire in a book on
> Flannel Weavers. As Meddens is found in the Netherlands I wondered if there
> was a connection. Does anyone on the list know anything about these Flemish
> weavers? Or know of any similar names in Pembrokeshire? Margaret
Chapter IX of Laws¹s ³The History of Little England beyond Wales² - ³The
Flemish Immigration² gives some information if you are able to get hold of a
Caradoc of Llancarvan wrote:
³In the year 1108 the rage of the sea did overflow and drowne a great part
of the lowe countrie of Flanders in such sort that the inhabitants were
driven to seek themselves of other dwelling places, who came to King Henrie
and desired him to give them some void place to remain in, who being verie
liberall of that which was not his owne, gave them the land of Ros in Dyvet,
where Pembroke, Tenby and Haverford are now built, and where they remain to
this date, as may well be perceived by their speech and condition farre
differing from the rest of the countrie.²
I am researching the Meddins/ Medyns /Meden family of Montgomeryshire and have recently found references to Flemish weavers in Pembrokeshire in a book on Flannel Weavers. As Meddens is found in the Netherlands I wondered if there was a connection. Does anyone on the list know anything about these Flemish weavers? Or know of any similar names in Pembrokeshire? Margaret
Tenby Out Liberty is now available at www.cenquest.co.uk
Apparently this area of Tenby has been missed off some web sites.
Also recently added are Bridell, Capel Colman, Clydey, Kilgerran and Kilrhedyn.
The full list of all available areas can be found at Cenquest on the FAQ page. All index searching is free.
Sylvia Birch sylvia(a)cenquest.co.uk
1841,1871 and 1891 Pembrokeshire Census on line
I am interested in the Pwllcrochan area, near Angle Bay, and in particular
pre-1530 history. The MART' family lived there in 1267. The area was then
known as PORTRAHAN or Porttrahan and POPTON as Popetune
If anyone could add any pre-1530 information, of any sort, I would be
delighted to share what I know with them.
Best wishes Carole
Superb stuff! Kept me occupied, too, on a beautiful Sunday afternoon
here in Canberra---I had to look through the lot. (I have some
sentimental connection with the police in Aberystwyth as my mother
was their first WPC.)
I wonder why they started off with a photo of each criminal but
ceased taking them (or including them in the record) at some point.
Fascinating to see what was considered a serious crime in the 1890s,
Couldn't find any rellies, though. Closest thing I could find was an
Aberystwyth butcher (folio 7r) who cut and wounded his wife in Tre'r
ddol (where most of my lot lived) and a boy from Taliesin who got
into trouble at 15. In fact I noticed that a large proportion of the
criminals were from afar.
But thanks again for drawing it to attention. I too commend to others.
On 28/05/2006, at 10:51, Alison Bryan wrote:
> If you haven't seen it, I really recommend you browse through NLW's
> digitalised Cardiganshire Constabulary register of criminals,
> 1897-1933. Have a look, even if you don't have CGN ancestors.
> It can be found here:
Thanks Alison for the site. I was interested to see how many were arrested for stealing clothes.The same crime is still being committed here in Surrey , this week the clothes in the Recyclable bin were stolen from a local Charity shop.
If you haven't seen it, I really recommend you browse through NLW's
digitalised Cardiganshire Constabulary register of criminals,
1897-1933. Have a look, even if you don't have CGN ancestors.
It can be found here:
There is a link to the manuscript on that page. The manuscript comes
with photos, and fantastic entertainment!
So brilliant, its kept me up past bedtime.
Would love to know if anyone finds their ancestors / relatives. I
would love to, maverick streak aside and the insight into their
antics, you get to see a picture.
This week's 'Retrospective Images of Wales' webpages, just uploaded onto my
1. Photographs taken in Brecon, the county town of Breconshire (six
pictures). This feature was one of the first shown on 'Images of Wales' back
in December 1997.
2. A two-page exploration of the picturesque street in Brecon known as 'The
Struet' (twenty pictures). This feature was first shown on 'Images of
Wales' in July 2001, but was expanded in January 2006.
As usual, these webpages will be on display for one week.
'Retrospective Images of Wales' is at
John Ball, Ystalyfera, near Swansea, Wales, UK
John's Homepage: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/
Images of Wales: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/
Welsh Family History Archive: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/wales/
GENUKI Breconshire Maintainer: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/
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Ive just come across a sad trawler log book entry, for the CALIPH, of
180 miles WNW of [Scilly]* Island. 6.30 pm.
George Lednor; age 19; decky; born Ash, England;, residing Milford.
Left leg cut off, hove round the sheave.
(Landed him in Queenstown, Ireland, for hospital treatment, his gear
consisting of: one shirt, one pair of drawers, one pair of mittens, one suit
- one trousers, one jacket - one vest, one cap (skull), one pair of boots,
one pocket knife, one sou'wester, one sea boot. All contained in one bag.
These were handed in to the Superintendent, His Majesty's Customs, Milford
Alfred J. Kersey (Skipper)
J. Galey (Mate)
That one sea boot is particularly poignant. George Lednor died the day
after he was put ashore. Hed been sailing out of Milford for only about
*The word looks like Sailly - unknown to me.
Welcome to the list Richard.
Have you not searched Freebmd etc for the marriage ?
How do you know it took place in 1866 ?
Whatever, you would still need to buy a certificate, and then you'd only get
the 2 fathers' names, not parents.
I suggest you check out the superb Llangynfelyn site first
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 7:00 PM
Subject: [Dyfed] Cardiganshire Marriage Look Up Please
> Help please.
> I'm looking for the marriage details of Thomas EDWARDS (born Derwen,
> Denbighshire c.1837) and Elizabeth JONES (born 1840, Cardiganshire (poss
> Llangynfelyn)) which took place in 1866.
> Would very much like to know the actual date/location of the ceremony plus
> the names of the couples' parents.
> Thanks very much
I'm looking for the marriage details of Thomas EDWARDS (born Derwen,
Denbighshire c.1837) and Elizabeth JONES (born 1840, Cardiganshire (poss
Llangynfelyn)) which took place in 1866.
Would very much like to know the actual date/location of the ceremony plus
the names of the couples' parents.
Thanks very much
I have been working on St. David's Diocese Wills for about four years. I've
just ordered the two last films from Salt Lake on the 1564-thru 1609 and am
waiting for them to come in. You ought to try to read the place names in those
wills. I write them down as they are spelled (or try to) but it can be very
hard. Parish names are very different from the modern version.
As for the language. When I was last in South Wales (1994), I heard English
spoken on the streets of Cardiff and Swansea and in the little towns.
Everywhere I went, I heard nothing but English. I didn't think much about it until I
went into Cardiganshire. I was in the town of Cardigan and everywhere I
went, everybody was speaking Welsh. No English at all. Finally, I went into a
Chemist's Shop and needed to buy something. Couldn't find it, so I asked, in
English, where it was. The clerk went into English, spoke to me as she rang up
the sale and when I left, she went back to the Welsh.
Except for Aberystywyth where they spoke both languages on the street,
everywhere else Welsh was spoken.
I was rather proud of them. They were still speaking the "Language of
Heaven." I don't understand why everyone in Wales can't learn to speak Welsh - even
along that border with England.
Llanllawer is a tiny hamlet (or was) between Dinas and Llanychaer - on the
mountain road north of Fishguard.
I have ancestors living in that area 1800's who are you researching
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 1:09 PM
Subject: DYFED-D Digest V06 #196
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