I am new to searching for DS family members. They lived in Alt-verbas or
Alt-werbas. They attended the Methodist Church. :
Philip Neber, born about 1915. He had a brother. Apparently the Neber
family lived there for a long time. Philip often said he had some French
He married Elisabeth Emich probably in the mid 1930s.
Edgar, born about 1935
Roland, born Sept. 11, 1936
Irmgard, DOB unknown, but was third child, born when Elisabeth was 25.
Manfred, fourth child.
Sieglinde, fifth child.
Elisabeth was the daughter of Elisabeth and ? Emich, their 2 children
were Philip Emich and Elisabeth Emich, who married Philip Neber. (Elisabeth
Emich gave birth to her daughter when she was 25.)
Elisabeth Emich was widowed when her children were small, and married ?
Kirst, a widower who also had children.
At some time, probably in the late 1920s, Elisabeth Emich/Kirst came to the
US with her son Philip Emich. She returned to Alt-verbas, but Philip
Emich stayed in the US, living in New Jersey where he married and raised a
In the fall of 1944, Philip Neber realized he had to get his family to
safety. Philip, Elisabeth and their 5 children fled, traveling by train, and
treking with a wagon and horse and eventually reached Oberammergau where
they stayed in a Red Cross facility for displaced persons. They were moved
around to various DP facilities in Germany in the years following the war,
eventually settling in Turbingen, where a last daughter, Elfriede was born.
The entire family came to the US in about 1956. Five of the 6 children
are still living (Edgar died in the US from a heart defect present from
By that time, Mr. Kirst had died. Elisabeth Kirst did not want to leave
Alt-Verbas; and stayed behind, and eventually was put in a Russian prison
camp or concentration camp. She had a reputation for being a skilled cook,
working as a cook for one of the officers, so she had an easier time in the
camp and survived. She came to the US in early 1962 to live with the
Philip Neber family.
I have documentation and oral history from the time the Neber family left
Alt-verbas, The family also has a history written by Elisabeth Neber
describing the years from when they fled Alt-verbas to the time when they were
in DP camps. One of her adult children translated this into English.
Unfortunately, she did not mention names of any ancestors. She wrote the
history at the suggestion of her children after she came to the US, so some names
and details may not be completely accurate. Elisabeth and Philip Neber
died in the US, as did Elisabeth Kirst, but all the children except for Edgar
are still alive, all living in the US.
If anyone can provide any information or suggestions as to where I can
search further, I'd greatly appreciate it. Unfortunately, I do not speak or
Thank you for your website. It has been very enlightening to read other's
stories from that difficult period of the DS history.
Loretta J. Whiteley