You must also remember that the Dawes Commission arbitrarily assigned names. I did an
interview with a Creek nation couple. They are in their 90's and remembered their
grandparents talking about the long march. When the Dawes Commission came through this
area of Oklahoma, they found alot of native americans fishing at a big pond and gave all
of them the last name of Bigpond. It certainly wasn't the name their parents had
given them! Most of them weren't even related which really muddies up the
genealogical waters. I would think that for the most part, if you have native american
blood, you cannot verify your lineage much before the Dawes Commission ruined the
bloodlines, at least if the Commission was involved in any aspect of your ancestor's
Of course the slaves brought into this country weren't allowed to keep their birth
names. Tracing them would be equally difficult.
On Sat, 18 August 2001, PasaPeruva(a)aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 8/18/01 5:02:26 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
<< I can relate to
your problem in searching your black roots, as I am part indian, and they
just as bad. Where many of the indians are on the Dawes Rolls, or the Guion
Miller rolls, those who hid so to not be moved west, do not show up on any
records. Some became migrant workers, who travelled state to state, so they
were never on census records. I keep hoping though!
Great to hear from you! Denise >>
I am new at this list. I have no determential handicap but artheritus. I
can move around but when it comes to more that five steps to get into a
building I shudder
and say do I really need what is in there? And when it comes to walking all
over a library to get photo images of items I have found it is hard also, so
my time in a library is very limited to the stamina I have for that day.
Denise, you brought up a reason for not finding Native Americans on some
records I had not thought of that. That of being migrant workers. I was
raised with the knowledge of being indian but no other info. When my father
was ill and I tried to find out some info from him he would say you want to
know of our indian people? I would say yes and that it was important to my
genealogy research. He would not go into any type of info other than he and
his father were good friends of Will Rogers and visited him on many
occasions. Daddy just died this past June at the age of 94 not giving me any
more info that that. I have been into any and all rolls of Native American
peoples with no luck in finding relationships.
I do know that in VA and the colonies they would not let indians give a birth
race other than negro or mulanto or they would be shipped out somewhere and
there was also a law passed to a birth race being devulged and only negro or
mulanto could be used. It is sad to have the Euro-Americans be that way and
so narrow minded
they could not accept these people that were here first and that they wanted
to to be friendly.
Beej -- Fireflower
Billie Jean )Ballenger/Burton) Reese
May the Great Spirit Bless you all on this list and guide you in your dailey
and help you individually with your problems.
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