The best way to start is to check the 1851 census for a Peter White born
Modbury c1796 and there is one, occupation currier, living at Portsea,
Hampshire with wife Louisa and two daughters. He is also a currier on
the 1841 census and he only has daughter, Rebecca, living with him and
Louisa. In 1861 he is an alderman and magistrate and son Francis is the
currier. They named one of their children Francis Symons White (born
1842 christened 1869 at Portsmouth - see www.familysearch.org.uk
) so I
think this is definitely the Peter White baptised at Modbury. Judging
by the late baptism for Francis they weren't too bothered about
baptising their children but Peter was clearly a very successful and
prosperous currier, going by his civic status in 1861, so why would
Frederick call him a boot maker?
Have you investigated Scotland or Ireland as Frederick's birthplace? If
Isabella is the Isabella White on the 1851 census working as a servant
in the household of Stephen Denison then her birthplace was Aberdeen and
the couple could have met before moving to London and getting married.
I searched the 1851 census for "Peter White boot maker London" and the
one returned, born in Scotland, is too young to be Frederick's father
but could he be a brother, occupations sometimes ran in the family?
Maybe the Peter White who witnessed Frederick's wedding? He and his
wife, Mary, and family are living in Westminster. Peter was born c1821.
In 1851 there is also a Peter White, shoemaker, and wife Lucy, born
Ireland living in David Street, Marylebone. The ages in the census
boxes are "NK" (not known) and someone has scribbled that out and added
35 at the side in another hand which makes the age accuracy suspicious.
Is there an address on their daughter's birth certificate? It might be
worth doing and address search on the 1851 census. Sometimes mother's
sought assistance with births from female relatives and you might find a
White or Gair living in the street.
I think Isabella died 28 April 1867 Madras, India (see
). She was born c1828. Frederick John remarried
Emely Zetilla (Letitia) Scoble at Madras on 7 Jan 1869, both partners
are widowed, groom's father Peter and bride's father Robert Neath.
Frederick's age was 39. (also see familysearch). The couple named one
of their children Robert Melville White so Melville could be a name in
the White or Neath ancestry.
If I spot anything I will let you know.
------ Original Message ------
From: "Diana Trenchard via DEVON" <devon(a)rootsweb.com>
Cc: "Diana Trenchard" <trenchar(a)icloud.com>
Sent: Friday, 8 Nov, 2019 At 22:58
Subject: [DEV] Peter WHITE bp 1796 Modbury
Can anyone help me either to claim or to discard Peter WHITE (bp 1796
Modbury) as my 4g grandfather?
My 3g grandfather Frederick John WHITE (FJW) was born at an unknown date
and place. However, his marriage certificate names FJW's father as
Peter, a boot-maker.
WHITE being a very common surname makes great difficulties in
researching it. I think I have now eliminated all other available
Peters except this one mentioned above, about whom I can find no details
apart from his baptism with parents Peter and Sarah (SYMONS)..
FJW's known details are-
1850 Aug 5 he married Isabella GAIR in St Mary's, Paddington Green MDX,
being described as a tailor and with father Peter, a boot-maker.
Witnesses were Peter WHITE and Laura HUTCHINGS.
1851 census neither Peter nor FJW found.
1852 he was a tailor in Clerkenwell on birth certificate of his daughter
Isabella (my ggrandmother).
1854 Gunner, 1st Battalion Artillery, Madras, India.
From then on all records of FJW are in India.
No record of the Attestation papers of FJW have yet been found which
would give his place of birth - probably my inefficiency.
I wondered if Peter WHITE pf Modbury joined the army, like his possible
son FJW, which would explain missing records - or is it my
inefficiency?In the 1851 census an Elizabeth WHITE is a live-in servant
in London, claiming that she is married - suggestive that she is the
wife od a soldier, but that may be me clutching at straws!
Thanks in advance for any help or advice. Diana
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