The next building up from Outer Down Cottages, is Yeo Mills. Which seems to be owned by Mr
Wallace Perryman who was a farmer/heavy worker.
I can forward the register to you if that is of any help?
To: pope1777(a)outlook.com; devon(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [DEV] Chagford 1939
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2015 20:54:19 +0000
Hi Daniel - You now know from the listed buildings link that the big house
at Outer Down was built in 1911, but the 1896 OS map shows no habitation at
that site, so it was not a pre-existing farm or hamlet. A recent sale
announcement refers to a seven-bedroom house with two cottages,a stable
block and outbuildings. It is probable that your grandmother's employer was
the then owner/tenant of the main house and possible that she and the two
closed persons you are seeking were all female servants lodged in one of the
cottages, one of whom was nominally recorded as the head of that "household"
(as we often see in census returns). Both of those closed persons were born
1915 or later (otherwise they would now be open) so they were younger than
25 in 1939, and would be into their nineties if still alive today. Their
identities may become open within the next few years.
The full page of the Register should show the occupants of the adjacent
houses (unless all the occupants are closed, in which case that house is not
(yet) included). That should reveal the name of the head of household in
the main building and his/her occupation. If the family was absent at that
time then the head might be a butler or housekeeper. If the main house is
missing, then it was empty, or might have been requisitioned by the Army for
its proximity to the firing ranges on Dartmoor, in which case the military
occupants would not be included in this register of civilians.
Google finds no relevant history of Outer Down but it is mentioned in the
Book of Chagford, as indexed on GENUKI, for which SKS might do a look-up if
you wish to pursue the location.
From: Danial Taylor via
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 7:17 PM
Subject: [DEV] Chagford 1939
Is anyone familiar with Chagford? I have the 1939 register for my
Grandmother [1924-1988](at least I think it is her!) and she is listed as
being a General servant in Outer Down, Chagford.
The two people she lives with, or work for are locked and therefore are
potentially still alive. I have attached the record.
I'd love to know which house this is and potentially get in contact with the
occupants if they are still with us.
It is a lovely town, I went to visit my Grandmother's grave at the Church
there last year, after I left I discovered my Great-grandmother is also
On the Record it shows my Grandmother Muriel Adams born in 1924. This would
make her 15. What concerns me is this. Adams has been crossed out and
'Avery' written above. I know from primary sources that Muriel, goes on to
become a Land Girl between 1941-45. She worked on land owned by the Heggedon
family in Germansweek.
All standard so far.
She marries my grandfather Harold Henry AVERY (1911-1999) in 1945 and my
uncle Kenneth Avery in born early 1946.
Why would her surname be listed as Avery in 1939?
Background note, my Grandmother was illegitimate. Her mother's maiden name
is Rudall. The father was married Major John Sylvester Connole. My
Grandmother's Aunt and husband unofficially adopted Muriel. Their surname is
Adams. On her marriage bann she is listed as Muriel Rudall Adams.
What is going on? If anyone on this list can aid me or remembers these
people mentioned please get in touch.
I'll be happy to forward the record to anyone wishing to help.