William Henry MORSEY and William Henry Norbey are both correct. Father for both is
"Oratio" a "Taylor". Christening date is 20 Mar 1825There is also a
William Henry Mabey born 1825 but bied in Devon 1858.
From: Martin Beavis <beavis.history(a)yahoo.co.uk>
To: Paul Hockie <paul.hockie(a)talk21.com>; devon(a)rootsweb.com
Sent: Monday, 8 February 2016, 18:04
Subject: Re: [DEV] MORBY & FARR
Hello Patrick - Paul has evidently identified your Jane Helson FARR as the
Jane Elson FARR, daughter of William and Jane, baptised Stoke Damerel 1801
[FMP, Devon Baptisms, also FamilySearch] and who appears in the 1851 Tower
Hamlets census as Jane, born Devonport ca 1802, wife of Horatio MORBEY whom
she married in 1820 [Ancestry, London, England, Church of England Marriages
and Banns, 1754-1921]. FMP has a 1792 marriage at East Stonehouse between
William FARR and Jane SOUTHWOOD. The later Weslyan baptism of Jane Helstone
FARR suggests some earlier marriage between a FARR and some variant of
Searching FMP for any William Henry baptised Stoke Damerel in 1823-25 finds
two possible MORBEY results in Devon Baptisms: William Henry MORSEY 1825
and William Henry NORBEY 1825. My FMP is currently unpaid so I can't view
the transcriptions or images but I'm guessing they are PWDRO and FMP
transcriptions of the same image. However, re-searching via the optional
keyword field confirms that both transcriptions include the name Jane but
neither the name Horatio, so unless Horatio is mistranscribed in both then
William Henry is the son of a Jane but not of an Horatio. Perhaps SKS could
look-up to resolve that. Does that 1825 baptism fit neatly within the 1821
to 1838 baptisms in Westminster?
Horatio MORBEY is a tailor in the census of 1851 and the
Devon/Devonport-born William Henry MORBY is also a tailor in several
censuses between 1861 and 1911, offering circumstantial evidence that they
were father and son. You probably know that William Henry MORBY born 1825
married and had a son of exactly the same name born ca 1848.
Ancestry lists Horatio/Horiatis MORBY/MORBEY in London Electoral Registers
for 1844, 1847 and 1858, and in London Land Tax Records for 1848 and 1851.
I notice that Horatio is frequently mistranscribed as Horatia.
Regards - Martin
From: Paul Hockie via
Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2016 6:44 PM
Subject: Re: [DEV] MORBY & FARR
What was the source for this information and have you verified it against
the original documents. Familysearch shows Horatio and Jane had 10 children
between 1821 and 1838, all born in Westminster. I found a William H Morby b
Devon in the 1891 and 1861 census but nothing to tie him to Horatio. I
couldn't find either in 1841 and only Horatio in 1851. I did find the
Jane Helstone Farr
birth: 17 December 1819
christening: 7 February 1820
MORRICE ST -WESLEYAN, DEVONPORT, DEVON, ENGLAND
father: William Farr
FMP (The image is available)
First name(s) Jane Elson
Last name Farr
Birth year 1801
Birth date ? ? 1801
Baptism year 1801
Baptism date 13 Dec 1801
Place Stoke Damerel
Father's first name(s) William
Mother's first name(s) Jane
Mother's last name -
Archive Plymouth & West Devon Record Office
Archive reference 166/9
You should also consider that one of the main reasons for moving to East
London from Plymouth was a "transfer" by the Dockyard, Navy/Marines and
occasionally the Army..
From: devon-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org] On
Behalf Of Patrick F via
Sent: 07 February 2016 11:16
To: Devon Queries
Subject: [DEV] MORBY & FARR
I have Horatio MORBEY b 1799 Neithrop, Banbury, Oxon.
m Jane Helson FARR b1802 Devonport.
They were married 1820 at St Dunstan & All Saints Stepney.
Tey had a son William Henry MORBY b 1824 Devonport Stokes (Stoke Dameral).
Looking at the birth of William in Devonport, I would say that Jane went
home to her parents to have William.
My new brick wall is , that I cannot find Jane’s parents and Williams birth
I know from all the census data that William give his place of birth was
Any help would be much appreciated. I did have a lot of data from Elizabeth
Howard back in 2012,. Which was appreciated.