With regards to researching using pre-1837 records I think it's just a different
approach that I've yet to get used to. I agree that I also find the new IGI website
less user-friendly which I
think isn't helping me trying to do research, but I'm learning how to use it and
picking up tricks like searching by batch numbers etc.I'm finding it tricky with no
census records now through which to trace
the families and be able to be sure I'm looking at the right records, so any tips on
how to confirm details and families without the censuses would be great. The Melhuish
family seems to be rather
established in Uffculme for many years so I've thought that starting
research somewhere then I'll eventually hopefully be able to match everyone together
at some point in future.
I wasn't going to go down the route of making notes of a large amount of records and
instead be more carefully selective, however in this case
it does seem to be helping. Looking through the Uffculme records I've
found about 20 baptisms between 1750-1800 which I've now grouped by
parents, with the main two groups being William Melhuish & Jane's 7
children between 1751-1768 and Robert Melhuish & Elizabeth's 7
children between 1779-1798. I've found in total 8 marriages in Uffculme, over the
period from 1725-1827, of which the marriages between the two
sets of parents just mentioned are there.
I'm now also focusing currently on the family of a William Melhuish. As
mentioned already, I note that he had 7 children between 1751 and 1768,
all born in Uffculme, with their mother stated as Jane. I have now found
a marriage between a Robert Melhuish and a Jane Doudney on 27/11/1750
which I believe to be the correct one. The next step I've taken is to
try and find the birth of Jane. The closest IGI search results I could
find were 4 christenings in Uffculme between 1716 and 1723 for Jane
Dowdney/Dowdny each with different parents. I also note that there are 3
other marriages in Uffculme between 1736 and 1750 for Jane Doudney's in
addition to the one involving Robert. I assume the spelling differences
are not an issue, just one of those transcription alterations that
frequently occur. I have no idea how to determine which of these
christenings is the correct one, or which of these marriages is the
correct one, so currently confused how to progress - as is typically the case now. With
regards to Robert, I
couldn't find a christening in Uffculme but did find on on 24/11/1720
in reasonably nearby Cadeleigh so perhaps this is the one (certainly
nearer than the other result in Northam).
Also just to say following Elizabeth's advice I've emailed Barbara seeking some
support with the IGI searches/records, but it'll be a week or so til I get a detailed
----- Original Message -----
From: elizabeth howard <elizgh(a)btinternet.com>
To: James Keen <jameskeen17(a)yahoo.com>; devon(a)rootsweb.com
Sent: Saturday, 23 June 2012, 15:59
Subject: [DEV] MELHUISH family - Uffculme - 18th Century
Hi, Pre-1837 records are not difficult , there are a good many online and
there are sites like Freereg, and Familysearch , as well as national sites like National
Archives Access to Archives as well as genuki/devon/parishes a good many of which have OPC
or Online Parish Clerks who can help , and perhaps most useful for you at the moment is
the Marriage Index from 1754 for the whole of Devon available on the DFHS ( Devon Family
History Society) website ...
Gimblett(a)one-name.org.uk is the email address for the Online Parish Clerk
OPC Barbara Roach and she may have further information .
According to Familysearch , John and Fanny Melhuish have Mary bapt Uffculme
in 1830 and Robert in 1834 I see their marriage in 1827 in Uffculme .
There are two possible John Melhuish bapts in Uffculme and perhaps the
earlier 1807 bapt is the more likely , making John around 20 when married in 1827 . His
parents were William and Anne Melhuish . 15 is unlikely to be a legal age for marriage
in any century and I cannot imagine a priest agreeing to such a marriage nor a Bishop
granting a licence for such a marriage ......
I would suggest that you take all the bapt and marriage entries for
Uffculme on Familysearch and set them down in date order .......I find the new FS very
eyewateringly confusing , and enlist the help of the OPC Barbara Roach
However William and Ann Melhuish are in the 1841 census for Uffculme , he
is 65, an ag lab, she is 55, and they have Robert, 15 , lab Wool Fact , and Elizabeth also
15 , also a lab Wool Fact . So this cannot be the right Robert , RTM would have been
6 in 1841 and would probably have been shown as 6 rather than have the age rounded up or
And Ancestry.co.uk has Robert Turner Melhuish as the son of Charles and
Mary?Grace Melhuish, with Charles being b in Membury ?
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----- Original Message ----- From: "James Keen" <jameskeen17(a)yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 5:22 PM
Subject: [DEV] MELHUISH family - Uffculme - 18th Century
After several months away, I've now got back to doing some further genealogy
research. Some of you may remember my previous postings regarding having traced back my
MELHUISH line to a Robert Turner Melhuish, born 1834 in Uffculme to parents John Melhuish
and Fanny Sansom who married 15/11/1827. I'm currently rather confused and muddled
with pre-1837 records and searches using the IGI, so now turn again to this list hoping
for some help and advice. Just to say please note that for the sake of avoiding
repetitions in this post, all events I mention took place in Uffculme unless otherwise
I now believe that Robert T's father John was christened 9/6/1812 - I know this means
he would have been only 15 and-a-bit at time of marriage according to these records, but I
assume that he was christened a few months (possibly even several) after being born and
therefore would have actually been over-16. I couldn't find any other likely records
so have just gone with this theory.
John's parents were Henry and Elizabeth (surname:?). I wasn't able to find a
marriage in Uffculme, however did find a marriage of a Henry Melhuish to Elizabeth Fry on
4/3/1811 in nearby Culmstock which I assume at the moment to be the one, since I
didn't find any other possibilities.
Henry was born 21/11/1783 and christened 2/1/1785. His parents were Robert Melhuish and
Elizabeth (surname:?) who had 6 other children between 1779 and 1798. I haven't been
able to find the marriage between Robert and Elizabeth - at the moment I can only think
that this is because they married in a neighbouring parish to Uffculme which is not
covered by the IGI - perhaps someone can help with finding this.
Searching the Uffculme records further, I found some earlier entries, which I expect to
tie into the family tree somehow but currently have been unable to do so. William Melhuish
married (don't know when) Jane (surname:?) and they had 7 children between 1751 and
1768, including a Robert christened 14/6/1754. My gut feeling is that this Robert is
probably the one that married Elizabeth, however I haven't been able to find any
evidence to prove that yet.
If anyone is able to help me out with furthering my research with regards to these above
points then that will as always be much appreciated, I look forward to hearing from you.
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