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Boy! what a complicated family this turns out to be. Any wonder I have had
so many problems, but finally I think I have cracked it thanks to
First... Prothesa Lucy's G's brother Nicholas Frederick marries Emma
Elizabeth VEALE and had 4 children in England
He [Nicholas] and wife Louisa [D] have by 1901 3 children, but another, Ruby
turns up c 1903, then they immigrate after 1903 .
For Ruby in 1911 it says born 1903 England [cannot find her yet in GRO, but
must try harder]
Daughter Ivy born 1894 dies in Toronto 1906
Joseph Willcocks [Wilcox] GILLARD marries a Louisa DYMENT [DIAMOND] [do not
know where/when or even if] also born England and have 2 daughter's Grace
In 1911 Louisa is on her own with Grace and Daisy, so where is husband
I spot a Joseph W. Gillard with a wife Emma and children Percy, Walter and
Ruby c 1903. I give them a miss because Joseph has a wife Louisa [it says so
on his death entry with a sister in law Emma who is the informant. [ At this
point I have not woken up]
It turns out folks that after Nicholas Frederick G. dies in 1906 dear old
Joseph W. GILLARD sets up house with his brother Nicholas's wife Emma
Elizabeth [Nee VEALE] and his buried with her in Toronto along with her
daughter Ruby and husband and also son Walter all named on same tombstone.
This Emma was the Informant, and who was with Joseph in 1911, I could now
go back and find the family again and put them all back in place.
Joseph's wife Louisa DYMENT/DIAMOND is buried 1944 with daughters Grace and
Daisy all on same tombstone.
Still need to find where in England she [Louisa DIMOND]comes from.
So far the most likely candidate is Lucy DIMOND born Stokenham 1867 d/o
William & Betsy
Does anyone have her please?
I have just looked at the Family Tree on Ancestry and the marriage is between John Harrison and "Lucy Gillard" . No mention of Prothesa . I can`t access the Canadian records but there is more to be uncovered there . I think the Nicholas Gillard of the Red Lion application is certainly the right one , as he is still in the 1881 census . I am just wondering how feasible it is to believe the entire family went to Canada ???? Some parish scheme ? or are they somewhere in the 1891 ?
HI Bev …….As usual with your queries, this is most interesting ……...the Exeter and Plymouth Gazette , 24th July 1868 , has " Totnes : At the Guildhall before R H Watson , esq , Thomas Blatchford of Glaze , Diptford , was brought up in custody charged with assaulting with intent , Prothesa Gillard aged 10 years and a few months daughter of Nicholas and Lucy (sic) Gillard, Kerswill , South Brent . The alleged offence took place on 13th inst . Prisoner committed for trial . "GROBirths June 1/4 1858 " Jillard ; Elizabeth Prothesa Ann . Plymouth. 5b 254".Western Times :" Death of Nicholas Gillard, at Osborne House , Exeter, aged 74 "3 March 1886 .Totnes Weekly Times, Oct 1887 . " Mr Kellock applied to have the licence of the Red Lion Dittisham , transferred from Mrs Selicia Mary Ferris to Mr Nicholas Gillard . Bench refused the application on the grounds that Gillard whilst keeping a licenced house at Halwill conducted it in an unsatisfactory manner and had his licence endorsed ." I just thought to try to track the family through , in case it gave some idea of what happened to Prothesa …...
I am looking for up to date Info on any FURSDON names.
My grandfather descended from David Fursdon born Portsea, Hampshire in 1827. He spelled his name as John David Firsdon in Ontario, Canada and later moved to Bowling Green, Ohio, USA.
Donald G. Firsdon, now in Lexington, Kentucky, USA
Eat This And 'Never Forget' A Single Thing Again
Hi List -
Is there anyone out there who can snag me a copy of an obituary for an
Eleanor Shopland, wife of H.T. Shopland, Exeter published on either
November 7 or November 12, 1884. I'd sure appreciate it. Thanks, Lora
I think the redacted name in Eustace's 1939 entry is possibly the daughter
(Margaret 1920-1970) of Wm Herbert & Maud Matherell (nee PENWARDEN) SOBY.
From: Joy Langdon via DEVON [mailto:email@example.com]
Sent: 27 November 2018 19:32
Cc: Joy Langdon
Subject: [DEV] Re: CAME
If nobody has updated the 1939 Register that people have died then their
names remain blacked out so Violet is probably the redacted name that
Elizabeth mentioned. I couldn't find my mother and three of her siblings on
the Register but there are four blacked out names in the household with my
grandmother. It is definitely the correct household, the only child that is
shown has been updated with her married name and my grandparents were living
in the same house when I was a child. It was very frustrating trying to
locate the family as every search failed and, wouldn't you know it, I
searched for the only visible sister last. My grandfather was working away
from home and not in the household and my grandmother didn't help by using
her middle name. I have no idea how the death information reached the
Register, the only visible sister died qute a long time after several of the
From : beverley(a)yourisp.com.au
Date : 27/11/2018 - 18:50 (GMT)
To : elizgh(a)btinternet.com, devon(a)rootsweb.com
Subject : [DEV] Re: CAME
Yes, I had that. Eustace and Violet must have parted after 1930. I have yet
to find her in 1939.
I know that a lot of wives and families were sent away, but there seems to
be an awful lot missing that should be there.
From: "ELIZABETH HOWARD via DEVON" <devon(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 11:55 PM
I have the Aldenham School [Hertfordshire] Register Book when hundreds of
boys went to school there from all over the world.
I am following a few names [out of interest and I came across this], they do
not belong to my families.
JOHNSTON, Basil, May 1893-July 1898 ( Son of John Alexander JOHNSTON,
Merchant, of Dartford.) Foorball Eleven 189698. Pemb. Coll. Camb. 1898. B.A.
1901. Joint Head Master Tormore School deal. Great War, 2nd Lieut. Rifle
Brigade 1916. Killed in action (France) Sept. 3rd. 1916
Now for the Devon connection.
According to the CWGC
JOHNSTON, Basil died 03/09/1916
6th Bn. attd 11th Bn. Rifle Brigade
Brother of Mrs. I. K. SHELMERDINE, of Atherington Rectory, Umberleigh,
Here is an entry that I missed when I did the Aldenham School Registers
EARGER, Richard, Sept. 1894-July 1898. Crossways, Counters Weir, nr Exeter.
( son of Wilson EAGER, Medical Supt. of Suffolk County Asylum, Melton)M.B.
Ch. B. Aberdeen 1905. M.D. Divisional Prize Medico-Psychol. Assoc. 1914 ;
Bronze medal 1919. Late Med. Supt. Devon Mental Hospital. Consultant
Psychiatrist to the Royal Devon and Exeter Hospital. Great War. Major
R.A.M.C. O.B.E. (mil)
Hi Bev , in the 1939 register , there is a Eustace L Came , b 9 Dec 1892 , farm tractor driver . He is living with the Sobys at Shropham Barton , Wm Herbert and Maud M , and one other , redacted . Totnes district .
I am sure I have looked in every conceivable place for death/burial of
Eustace Leopold Came 1892 and his wife Violet Anna [Nee CRANCH] born 1900
I know that he lost a leg in the 1st World War. He was at one time is Essex,
then back in Devon.
He had a daughter Josephine 1923 who would have been born in/nr Teignmouth
There is a Violet Came buried Teignmouth in 1961 [CD] but her age does not
match her birth of 1900. I wonder if this is a mistake on the part of
whoever gave the information!! I am inclined to think it is her.
She does not appear to be with Eustace Came in 1939, but have been unable to
find her after 1929 in Teignmouth.
If anyone can confirm that the 1961 is Violet, I would appreciate that
please, and then, where is Eustace??
Just in case a long lost rellie shows up
This data base of NSW residents is somewhat out of my area of research - pre
1900, but when I discovered the book I could not resist in adding it to my
site as it may provide useful information to my readers.
It is based on the listing of all Cars and Owners for 1915. It contains
9,318 names, addresses, registration number, horse power, make of the car(s)
, seating capacity and importantly the price. It also lists the 235 owners
of taxis and the 297 registered owner of motor lorries.
So if you want to know where grandfather lived and what car he or maybe
grandmother was driving, the make and horse power of the car, how many of
the family it would carry, where it was manufactured and importantly in most
cases how much it costs this new data base will add a new avenue for your
Follow this LINK https://wp.me/P3yFOW-29
Large data base , slow to load, be patient
Tomorrow in Stoodleigh we are remembering those from the village who served in the armed forces in WW1.
Those who died and also those who returned:
--------------------------------R. I. P.------------------------------
Alfred BISHOP William ELLIS Robert KINGDOM
Fred BISHOP Alfred KINGDOM William REED
Lionel C ACKLAND Leonard EVELEIGH Hugh MONEY-COUTTS
W. APPLEBY Stanley FROOM William PACKER
Arthur AYRE Albert GOVIER F. PARTRIDGE
Ronald AYRE Fred GOVIER F. J. PARTRIDGE
Herbert BAKER William GOVIER Henry PINCKNEY
Frederick BALMENT Reginald HARRIS James RADFORD
Frecderick BARFOOT Frank HART Thomas RADFORD
F. T. BARRELL Vincent HART William ROGERS
John BARRELL William HART W. F. ROWE
Herbert BERE Charles HEMBOROUGH George ROWE
Albert BISHOP Frederick HOLLOWAY Tom SMITH
Thomas BISHOP Frank HUNT J. SOWDEN
Walter BISHOP Sidney HUNT W. SOWDEN
Ernest BOWDEN Henry JENKINS Richard STADDON
Thomas DREW Albert JONES George STEVENS
Charles ESCOTT Fred LEVIN William SQUIRES
Victor ESCOTT Charles LUXTON George WEBBER
Walter ESCOTT Richard LUXTON William WILLIS
William ESCOTT James MAUNDER Francis YEANDLE
From the marvellous Nivard of the WW1-UK forum. Enjoy.
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