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Please could someone check if there is an Elizabeth North on the 1851 born
Ottery St Mary age about 6/7/8 years old.
This Elizabeth married Spiller and on 71 lived in upottery next to my North
family. Another Elizabeth married Doble but she was a cousin of my Elizabeth
and lived by North family again in Upottery
I have lost my Elizabeth North , mine was baptised in Upottery in 1842 but
cant find her after 1871 and no death in Upottery before then. I have a
feeling that the Elizabeth North born Ottery could be mine so want to make sure
that there isnt another one so I can lay claim to the OTtery one.
Hope this makes sense
Hello, List. I posted this on Ancestry but do not think there is a direct
connection between there and this list, so am posting here as well hoping
for some help.
"Looking for help with this part of the family from my father's side. I
would like to find any "cousins" out there and also connect my Ellis's
further back to the UK.
Steve Lutz, Manheim, PA
Descendants of Henry Ellis
Generation No. 1
1. HENRY1 ELLIS died in at Waterloo during war with Napoleon. He married ??.
Child of HENRY ELLIS and ?? is:
2. i. WILLIAM HENRY2 ELLIS, b. 1809, Devonshire, Great Britain (England); d.
May 23, 1857.
Generation No. 2
2. WILLIAM HENRY2 ELLIS (HENRY1) was born 1809 in Devonshire, Great Britain
(England), and died May 23, 1857. He married MARY ANN E. (MC?)URIMEY. She
was born May 26, 1820 in England, the year that Hancock was defeated, and
died Oct 02, 1881.
Children of WILLIAM ELLIS and MARY (MC?)URIMEY are:
i. ALBERT3 ELLIS.
3. ii. JOHN H. ELLIS, b. Mar 04, 1835, Rochester, Monroe Co, NY; d. Oct 16,
1910, Williamsport, PA.
iii. WILLIAM ELLIS, JR., b. Mar 06, 1843, PA.
iv. HENRY ELLIS, b. Feb 17, 1845, PA; d. Dec 1922.
v. JENNIE ELLIS, b. Jan 16, 1846; d. Dec 05, 1927.
vi. ANNIE ELLIS, b. Jul 31, 1853, PA; d. Sep 10.
vii. ELIZABETH ELLIS, b. May 23, 1855, PA; d. Jun 08, 1938.
4. viii. JANE ELLIS, b. Abt. 1851, PA.
Generation No. 3
3. JOHN H.3 ELLIS (WILLIAM HENRY2, HENRY1) was born Mar 04, 1835 in
Rochester, Monroe Co, NY, and died Oct 16, 1910 in Williamsport, PA. He
married EMILY M. WHITMAN Abt. 1861, daughter of WILLIAM WHITMAN and MARIE
LEEBO. She was born Mar 04, 1840 in Hamburg, PA, and died Oct 21, 1916 in At
home, 445 East Third St, Williamsport, PA.
Children of JOHN ELLIS and EMILY WHITMAN are:
i. WILLIAM OTTO4 ELLIS, b. Abt. 1862, PA; d. Jul 25, 1924; m. BLANCHE
ii. LUCETTE ELLIS, b. Aug 1863, PA; d. Apr 21, 1940.
iii. ANNIE ELLIS, b. Abt. 1866, PA.
iv. CLARA ELLIS, b. Jun 1869, PA; d. Aug 01, 1953; m. WILLIAM F. CONRADI; b.
Abt. 1865; d. Dec 18, 1952.
v. JULIA M. ELLIS, b. Dec 1869, PA; d. Apr 12, 1935; m. CHARLES E. KRAPE; b.
Abt. 1870; d. Jul 01, 1942, Williamsport Hospital, Lycoming Co.
5. vi. LUCHEN JOHN ELLIS, b. Abt. 1871, Phila(??), PA; d. Jan 09, 1960, Egg
Harbor City, N.J..
vii. EMILY ELLIS, b. Abt. 1873, PA; d. May 24, 1959.
viii. BODO OTTO ELLIS, b. Feb 20, 1875, PA; d. Jun 14, 1944, Williamsport,
ix. JANE M. ELLIS, b. Abt. 1877, PA; d. Sep 13, 1963; m. OTTO CLAY CLINGER;
b. Oct 10, 1875; d. Jul 01, 1939, Williamsport Hospital, Williamsport , PA.
x. GEORGIA ELLIS, b. Jul 1881; d. Aug 21, 1959.
Yes indeed according to the transcriptions you pointed out, some of the
JUTSUM's I was looking for died in West Buckland, Somerset. There's also
Grace born in 1778. Since Ralph was married to Elizabeth Norrish in 1763,
there surely must have been more children, but where were they born?
On Thursday 28 Oct 2004 19:36, NorthDevonRendle wrote:
> You could try the Somerset Genuki for West Buckland.
> There are transcriptions of the Baptisms, Marriages & Burials including
> some JUTSAMs. There is a Ralph JUTSAM, farmer, recorded as buried on 13 Jun
> 1801. Is he your Ralph but buried in West Buckland, Somerset?
> Best regards,
> Mike Rendle
> Salisbury, Wiltshire, UK
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paul C D Dann [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]
> > Sent: 28 October 2004 17:04
> > To: DEVON-L(a)rootsweb.com
> > Subject: Re: [DEV] JUTSUM children in West Buckland (Devon)
> > Hi Bob
> > Thanks for your very explicit reply. I am aware of most of the points
> > you made, but there's one very important issue which your message
> > revealed. I realised that I may have been looking at the wrong West
> > Buckland, in Devon rather than Somerset. I now find that although Ralph
> > Jutsum is said to have
> > died in West Buckland, Devon, his wife and daughter Sarah apparently died
> > in
> > West Buckland, Somerset.
> > There is another group of Jutsums in London, and there's reason to
> > believe
> > that a William Cook JUTSUM forms the link with Devon, which has not so
> > far been found. Hence my interest. Ralph Jutsum's mother was Sarah
> > Cook, hence
> > the possibility that William Cook JUTSUM was his son.
> > I've little experience of researching in Somerset, so will have to start
> > from
> > scratch. Any advice would be most welcome.
> > Thank you for your offer of help.
> > Paul Dann
> > On Wednesday 27 Oct 2004 21:08, you wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > Just a thought or two as if you look at the Devon 1851 Census you
> > will
> > > that there is only one family left in Devon with that spelling despite
> > that
> > > there are many examples in Halberton parish registers in the 1700s. The
> > > problem is that you might like to consider variants of the name such as
> > > Jutson, Jutsom and Jutsam? Looking at the Halberton parish registers
> > > you will find that a Ralph Jutsam has family here 1624 onward and the
> > > family may be also using Sampford Peverell, an adjacent parish. Ralph
> > > may well
> > be
> > > a traditional name with these families and as you probably have Ralph
> > > Jutsum, Yeoman of Halberton married Elizabeth Norrish, spinster of East
> > > Anstey by licence or by banns? 30/12/1763 in East Anstey. John Jutsum &
> > > Richard Norris both witness and all parties sign. I would urge you to
> > > double check as this is a side interest of mine when looking for Jutson
> > at
> > > Bampton & Mamhead later and it may be that errors have crept into my
> > notes.
> > > This couple appear to move on as no more is seen of them here and of
> > course
> > > being close to Somerset they may have spent time at West Buckland etc
> > (no
> > > M.I.s seen there). Again looking at the Devon 1851 Census you will see
> > > Ralph at North Molton gives Halberton as his birth place. Should
> > anything
> > > strike a chord or you care to further your thoughts with me I would be
> > > pleased to reply, best wishes Bob Shephard.
> > >
> > > Paul C D Dann <paul(a)crowpot.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> > > Greetings - I'm new to this list and am looking for children of Ralph
> > > JUTSUM & Elizabeth NORRISH in West Buckland (Devon). They were married
> > in
> > > 1763, and I have Grace b. 1778, from a Baptisms list on the Rootsweb
> > > Web site & Sarah (birth date & source not known). Ralph JUTSUM died in
> > > West Buckland (1791) so it looks very likely that other children were
> > > born there.
> > >
> > > I'm particularly interested if there's a son William , possibly William
> > > Cook JUTSUM
> > >
> > > Many thanks
> > >
> > > Paul Dann.
> > >
> > >
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I have recently found an ancestor of mine in the 1861 census for
Newhouse, North Huish, namely Rebecca Huxham (age 63, born Loddiswell).
Her occupation is given as Schoolmistress.
Can anyone fill in any background detail on what exactly this meant at
the time, or any information about schools in the area that she may have
Any suggestions for where I could search for additional information
would be welcomed.
Hi All, I mentioned the name Kyste the other day.I too believe it's probably an error by the transcriber.This is from Ilfracombe c 1630's.With the writing of the day S possibly being a F and the long sweeping strokes could anyone hazard a guess on what the name could be? Any ideas most welcome. regards,kevin.
I've just added the following information, received from Nigel
Batty-Smith, to GENUKI/Devon's History page:
Westcote's "A view of Devonshire in MDCXXX with a pedigree of most of
its gentry", Exeter, W. Roberts (1845) 649 p. is now available on
CD-ROM from UK Genealogy Archives
School of Computing Science, University of Newcastle, Newcastle upon Tyne,
NE1 7RU, UK
EMAIL = Brian.Randell(a)ncl.ac.uk PHONE = +44 191 222 7923
FAX = +44 191 222 8232 URL = http://www.cs.ncl.ac.uk/~brian.randell/
Is this him?
37 Albert Road, Stoke Damerel
Richard H FERRARO, Head, M, 25, Dairyman/Market Gardener, Devon Devonport
Nellie FERRARO, Wife, M, 23, Dairyman/Market Gardener Assistant (Milk),
Herbert FERRARO, Son, S, 3, -, Devon Devonport
Cecil FERRARO, Son, -, 4mo, -, Devon Devonport
Image available if you require it.
Salisbury, Wiltshire, UK
> From: carole sergeant [mailto:email@example.com]
> Can anyone please help me find my Richard Henry Avery Ferraro on the 1891
> he should have a wife Amelia aka Millie
> and at least a son Herbert aged 3 and occupation may be market gardener
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Great website for all those with 'transports' in their history. If you have
an ancester who just disappeared 1818 to 1855 check it out. A lot of the
families were allowed to go on these ships as the Crown didn't want a lot of
destitute women and children left behind to feed
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Cameron" <sluggan(a)tpg.com.au>
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 6:32 AM
Subject: [DEV] Australian Convict data -base web-site
> To All,
> This site has some good records on convicts - including date and place of
> sentence, physical descriptions of convicts - with contact details of
> researching these individuals.
> See this site at
> Don Cameron.
> Chlanna nan con thigibh a so's gheibh sibh feoil.
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Hi All, Thanks for your comments.I can't understand why you thought wishfully ? I did suggest as they were obviously illiterate that this was not possible ....But who knows?It's hardly a science. I was told that a mark may have been added by a witness to the mark.Then again I don't go along with the nervous idea either. if this is social history then all we are doing is guessing. I made it quite clear that I thought it wasn't possible.It's amazing what we read between the lines to support our own theories.I wanted a few ideas I didn't ask for comfirmation of my own ideas.Thanks to all for your replies. I just wish I could of shown you the mark. Regards,kevin.
Does anyone have easy access to the 1861 Census of the Exeter area?
I am looking for an Eliza PONSFORD who would have been 20yrs old approx. I
have her death cert which states she died in Friars Gate, Exeter (Probably
but she had married in London in 1870. On the 1871 Census she gives
birthplace as Devon (tuh)
The only other detail I have is her father's name - John - which isn't very
I am at a loss.......
Just seen these mails on the 1841 and I have three CDs of the 1841 which contain an odd assortment of villages, but mainly cover the North Devon area from Welcombe to Morthoe and then down to Petertavy , and then south east to the river Otter villages , all the Clists, Hydon, St Lawrence etc, but also odd parishes in between . The images I have looked at so far are good to fair in condition to read . I haven`t as yet got the villages in alphabetical order and of course none of the census is indexed but if anyone desperately needs an 1841 look up , I will see if I have the village .
Dear listers, I am wondering if any one can tell me if there was a census in Devon in 1841. I am looking for a William Gill and wife Mary nee Pope. Children were John, Elizabeth and William. I would appreciate any help. Regards Elaine in Brisbane Australia.
This is not exactly a reply to Kevin's query, which I found most interesting, but on a will, I saw the mark of one of the witnesses, my 10GGF, Edward LUGGAR of Tavistock. He had written an enormous capital EL, rather lopsided - and I had a strong sense of the pride he must have taken in being able to do that.
Hi All, I hope I'm not boring you but as I saw this in this County I thought I would post it. I saw the image of the marriage banns belonging to my Gx5 Grandparents in Dartmouth 1763. Has anyone noticed when an Ancestor has made a mark that it looks .......
personalised? Obviously I can't give you an example, but it looks as if they have the mark as a crucifix instead of a X,Also, there seems to be another mark to it. At first it looks as if they have an attempt of Christ too, but someone else tells me they wouldn't of done that! It could represent a serpent or a hook.I think this is all highly unlikely if they are illiterate. Has any one else noticed anything? Regards,Kevin, Co Cork,IRL
This site has some good records on convicts - including date and place of
sentence, physical descriptions of convicts - with contact details of people
researching these individuals.
See this site at http://members.iinet.net.au/~perthdps/convicts/stories.html
Chlanna nan con thigibh a so's gheibh sibh feoil.