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I am researching the following family names originating in Devon and would
be grateful to hear from other contributors to this listing who might be
also interested in these families spanning the period from the late 1700's
PACK ( BLACKAWTON, EAST ALLINGTON)
PERRYMAN (sometimes PERRIMAN) (ORESTON, PLYMSTOCK AND PLYMOUTH)
HADDY (EAST ALLINGTON)
CLARK (sometimes CLARKE) (NEWTON ABBOT)
In return I will be pleased to share what info that I may have that might
be of interest to other researchers within the above locations and stated
Recently I read on this list a comment about the Burnet-Morris Index to Devon.
All excited I rushed off the Locality Catalogue (and the author/subject
catalogue too) at my local LDS Library, but could find no trace of any filming.
Can someone knowledgable please tell me (1) what is the nature of this index,
and how would it be indexed into the catalogue if filmed ? and (2) How might I
gain access to it if not filmed ?
Regards, Kaye Cole in Melbourne, Oz.
Searching for Snellings and Woodleys
> Can anyone help please,
> Can any one tell me anything about Exeter Prision,"New North Road Exeter
> Looking for just a little background history to fill a space in the family
> history file, for one of my past relatives who was residing at HM pleasure
> Re- the 1881 LDS Census.
> Any Help would be appreciated.
> Mike Harding
> BRISTOL UK
Would someone have easy access to 1841 Exeter census?? Or parish records
for Exeter in 1840 or South Molton 1832,1834?
I am looking for details on the family of
Samuel and Alice COX (aged c 32 and 36)
in 1848 they emmigrated to Australia (aged 39 and 43) with
so in 1841 they would be circa 9,7and 1 yr old
Lydia was born in Exeter, Devonshire
William and John were born in South Molton, Devonshire
Alice was born Alice PESTER in Exford, Somerset
Samuel was born in Alderney, the Chanell Islands
He gave his occupation when they emmigrated as a wool sorter and gardener.
I am interested in why so mobile - maybe an employer owning land in a
number of places. I hope that they are still in Exeter in 1841. And hope to
find names of parents of Samuel and Alice.
If some kind soul would help me out, or if another is searching for this
same family I would be most grateful for any clues.
Just rejoined this list after being off the list for some time. Researching
the above three names in the Devon area.
A newly found cousin just sent us a picture of St. Peters Churchyard in
Bratton Fleming, Devon. Does anyone know where we might find the history of
Don and Mary in Wyoming
Can anyone tell me about the above cemetary in Plymouth, please?
I was recently told that there are more than one - that it is a generic
name for a cemetary in this area? I'm puzzled and wold appreciate some
My Mother talks about her grandmother being buried in the cemetary.
As most of my PAVEY ancestors lived in or near Yarcombe, I would like to
find out more about the area. Can anyone recommend a suitable book? (I
have seen and read the only one mentioned on the Genuki pages.)
looking for PAVEY, S?PP?NS, SEYMOUR, STANDISH, VENABLES, WARD, JONES!
Does anyone descend from these people shown on the 1851 census as living at
a property Westdown, just south of Blackawton about 5 miles west of
WILLS John head 48 farmer 96 acres born Blackawton
Nancy wife 47 farmer wife Chivelstone
John son 25 Mason Blackawton
Richard son 22 Carpenter Halliwell
Samuel son 14 East
Charlotte dau 11 Blackawton
Mary Ann dau 8 Slapton
If so, please contact me.
Dear Alan and All,
Firstly - have you tried it Alan? I have tried scanning fiche without
success - if anyone has found a way I would be grateful to know what
settings were used.
Thanks and regards,
From: AlanScad(a)aol.com <AlanScad(a)aol.com>
To: DEVON-L(a)rootsweb.com <DEVON-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: 29 November 1999 23:02
Subject: Reading Fiches into a Computer
>I read with interest the account of photographing fiches twice, with and
>without flash, but I wondered whether anyone had tried a simpler solution.
>Many may have a scanner, which can take the equivalent of a photograph of
>fiche. Mine has variable definition in dots per inch, so that I can go up
>several thousand - surely enough for even the smallest print on the fiche?
>think that the scanner would give a more even result than the hand held
>camera. Many also have Optical Character Recognition programs bundled with
>them, so it could be possible to read them into a database.
>Just a thought.
The surnames above are "mine" in Devon.
Also - just a quick note about the DHFS v internet:
- I subscribe to this e-mail list now and again, use GENUKI, am due to do
a little bit towards the Devon 1891 Census indexing project, AND I'm a
member of the DFHS - 10754. I believe Bob Muchamore and others also come
into this category?
I personally need reminding about good ideas such as those below sometime.
I tend to get a bit busy and forget things but I certainly take on board
that it's worth mentioning the web benefits to the DHFS (although not a
members' postal address/ tel no. list on the web).
I live fairly near London, so the main DHFS benefits for me are the
quarterly magazine and the services advertised therein. (and maybe a
Summer Holiday in Devon!)
Membership subs for the DHFS are due in January- £10 per year including
mags. For what it's worth, I intend renewing my membership.
Sue Nash (nee GREENWAY)
From: Brian Randell <Brian.Randell(a)newcastle.ac.uk>
To: DEVON-L(a)rootsweb.com Date: 29 November 1999 13:07
Subject: Re: Devon FHS
>At 10:38 am -0400 24/11/99, Dick Bolt wrote:
>>I have felt for a long time it is a shame we here on the Internet are
>>what the FHS members know and vis-versa. How can we bring these two
>>data together ?
>>Joining the DFHS never seemed like a logical option to me. It was costly
>>expations of ever seeing something usefull in a publication was very low.
>>went over to research & was in Exeter, the research facilities of
>>Devon Family Record Office was more than enough for the time I had. I had
>>considered joining during trip over. There also was a meeting in
>>I could have gone to, but missed.
>The above is one of a number of messages recently that have discussed the
>Devon FHS. The trouble is that as far as I'm aware nobody from the Devon
>FHS subscribes to this list and passes relevant items on to the Committee.
>This is a great pity, and will I hope change before long. However, I would
>claim that the annual subscription is in fact quite modest, the Society has
>created a number of valuable indexes and provides a (postal) lookup service
>that anyone researching Devon could find very useful, and has a regular
>journal, so I urge all subscribers to this list to consider joining - to me
>this *is* a logical option. (Incidentally, the Society has just announced
>that it is producing a baptisms index for all parishes that are not
>included in the IGI.)
>I admit that it is undoubtedly the case that distant members do not get as
>much value from membership as local ones. However the way to change that is
>to have many more people who are actively researching Devon from afar join
>the Society, and make clear by letters to the Chairman and the Editor of
>the Journal that (i) they are joining in the hope, indeed expectation, that
>the Society will make full use of the Internet in future, and (ii) that
>such developments would be a strong encouragement to their continuing their
>membership. Such an expression of hope would of course carry much more
>weight if it was accompanied by an offer to take an active part in any
>future Society projects, such as indexing or transcribing, that have been
>designed so as to enable distant members to participate using the Internet.
>(It might also help to educate the Society if people sending such letters
>also indicated the benefits they already get from this mailing list, and
>other online services, such as GENUKI.)
>Dept. of Computing Science, University of Newcastle, Newcastle upon Tyne,
>NE1 7RU, UK
>EMAIL = Brian.Randell(a)newcastle.ac.uk PHONE = +44 191 222 7923
>FAX = +44 191 222 8232 URL = http://www.cs.ncl.ac.uk/~brian.randell/
Someone was asking me for information on the WORTH family and was requiring some help. Our server has been down and the message has been "mislaid". If that person would like to contact me again privately, I would be glad to respond.
Edna - Ottawa
It is not held at all LDS FHC as I had a look for it today. It may only be
held at LDS FHC in England.
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Randell <Brian.Randell(a)newcastle.ac.uk>
Sent: 30 November 1999 09:37
Subject: Re: Burnet-Morris Index
> Hi Kaye:
> >Recently I read on this list a comment about the Burnet-Morris Index to
> >All excited I rushed off the Locality Catalogue (and the author/subject
> >catalogue too) at my local LDS Library, but could find no trace of any
> >Can someone knowledgeable please tell me (1) what is the nature of this
> >and how would it be indexed into the catalogue if filmed ? and (2) How
> >gain access to it if not filmed ?
> Quoting from the section on Bibliography in GENUKI/Devon
> What was originally intended as a Devon Bibliography, but expanded to
> became an
> immensely useful general index listing over a million references to Devon
> places and people, is now known as the Burnet-Morris Index - the original
> is at
> the Westcountry Studies Library, but microfilmed versions can be seen at
> LDS Family History Centre. (For the reference sources covered see The
> Morris Index 1940-1990, Devon Library Services, Exeter, 1990.)
> Brian Randell
> Dept. of Computing Science, University of Newcastle, Newcastle upon Tyne,
> NE1 7RU, UK
> EMAIL = Brian.Randell(a)newcastle.ac.uk PHONE = +44 191 222 7923
> FAX = +44 191 222 8232 URL = http://www.cs.ncl.ac.uk/~brian.randell/
Yes but how about the medieval castle that sits on the Roman
remains? Could we dig that up first?
Sorry for this completely off-topic mail!
Martin Roseveare, ArchaeoPhysica Ltd,
Researching Keyes & Rosevear(e)
Date forwarded: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 10:32:41 -0800 (PST)
Date sent: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 13:31:56 EST
Subject: Re: Exeter Prision
Forwarded by: DEVON-L(a)rootsweb.com
> I think that the prison is built on the site of the first Roman camp at
> Exeter (Isca Dumnonii?) which I regard as more than sufficient reason to
> demolish the monstrosity to look at the archaeology underneath!!
At 10:01 PM 11/29/99 EST, you wrote:
>A correspondent in DEV (Plymouth area) has provided me with an email address
>(handwritten) that appears to be:
>does anyone recognize the string to the right of the "@" and what it ought
I just did a scan of old emails and found cwcom.net - maybe that's it.
You say that it is a shame that nobody seems to have written to DFHS to
express their views on this subject. Your e-mail spurred me to look back and
in fact I wrote to the DFHS on 22 February (I found the copy letter on my
correspondence file) to ask them (well beg them, really) not to publish in
microfiche format. In fact I asked them to publish in any format at all apart
from microfiche. I repeated all the arguments raised here (well all those
against the format!) and asked that it should be published in CD-ROM format
for preference. I received no acknowledgement. I have been a member for many
years and I would have thought that all those subscriptions could have meant
that I received at least an acknowedgement. I also wrote several articles
which were published in the Historian-none of which received so much as a
I do feel that I have tried to 'do my bit' for DFHS bearing in mind that I
live some distance away from Devon and cannot take advantage of any
facilities they offer (let alone members who live overseas). You have stung
me to write again-and I shall-but I do feel that I am effectively
disenfranchised by living away from Devon and not being able to attend the
AGM. If you are in contact with the DFHS perhaps you may care to pass on
this, and the feelings of others, to the secretariat?
Sorry, I guess that's really a rhetorical question; we all should belong to
DFHS if we want to complain and then we need to write/complain within the
structures of the society.
DFHS Membership number 5820
I have used this index extensively, at the West Country Studies Library in
Exeter. The entries are very brief, often citing old articles in Devon and
Cornwall Notes and Queries, parish registers, or obscure genealogical journal
references, or wills. Some of the abbreviated citations are so obscure the
librarian couldn't even figure out what source they refer to, so it can be
difficult to use. I found a few useful clues for my research, but relatively
little for the effort expended. Still, if you go there, it's recommended.
Robert Mussey, Boston, Mass.
Just get out the spades (and the dynamite) and get rid of that monstrous
carbuncle-where did I hear that first. I'm sure that a mediaeval castle, or a
roman fort, would sit so much better than the prison.
I cannot tell you any thing about the prison, but I can tell you that a
recently found ancestor, Thomas Morgan Bell Salter, was a minister and
Exeter Prison was part of his ministry. I believe that this was early in the