1. If these parcels "close" (when finished plotting you end up at the
beginning), you probably are not seeing clerical errors.
2. My own family settled in a hilly part of Kentucky, where land on the side of a ridge
was substantially less valuable than land along a river bottom. Thus, court orders issued
in response to petitions to divide land among heirs instructed the special commissioners
charged with this task to divide the land into X parts of EQUAL VALUE (not equal acreage).
Having said that, most of the subdivided plots I have seen vary in size by no more than
3. Grandchildren of a decedent would receive a smaller fraction, except in the case of
only children. I have a situation where the decedent had 7 children; one had pre-deceased
him with three children of her own. Each of these grandchildren received 1/21st of a
On Oct 26, 2012, at 8:43 PM, Renee wrote:
The only thing is, looks like deeds years later would be copied from
"original" deed the owner had and each one I can locate are still worded
like the old ones, so unless they are copying them from court records, then
their copy was wrong.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Greg Matthews" <cheekygnome(a)gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: [DMU] Trouble with deeds
> Keep in mind that what you are seeing is NOT the original. The
> originals could have very well been correct, especially if they had
> the surveyor's copy as well.
> On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Renee <dennis.newman(a)cox.net> wrote:
>> Thanks Greg and I figure that is what happened with copying 11 together,
>> think some directions were missed and left off, because they make no
>> sense, as in almost straight lines that then double back over themselves
>> the case of the one that comes out 3 acres). I tried changing directions
>> for N but it made no big difference, so I think a line or two from the
>> survey was skipped.
>> What I don't understand is it not being caught later and wonder about the
>> problems it may have caused at some point, say someone was going to
>> the land and the description on the deed only reads 150 acres when it
>> be 272. I just wonder how that could get straightened out when over 100
>> years (or more) may have passed.
>> One man did file a suit that went to the NC Superior Court abt 1915 but
>> was over one land line in his deed, he thought wasn't clear but it never
>> came up that the whole deed read wrong, The deed stated "a stake at James
>> Herrington's house) and in later deeds they changed that to say "at or
>> where James Herrington's house used to stand" (something along those
>> is what it said). The new owner said he couldn't tell where a house had
>> stood, so he didn't know where his line was....... (that was the 320 acre
>> tract that should have been 272). The court ruled that the deed was
>> enough. I don't think anyone added up the area to figure out that the
>> was in fact way off.
>> Thanks again, I just couldn't believe they were all so out of wack.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Greg Matthews" <cheekygnome(a)gmail.com>
>> To: <deed-mapper-users(a)rootsweb.com>
>> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 2:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: [DMU] Trouble with deeds
>>> It isn't uncommon. You have to remember that the deeds were copied
>>> into the deed books by clerks. They were working off of another
>>> document (either something from the court, the original land owner or
>>> the surveyor) so you had multiple places where errors could have
>>> occurred. I'm sure some documents could have been just as hard to
>>> read then as they are 200 years later. Personally, it seems to me
>>> that the most common place to catch an error is in the direction, ie.
>>> NNE, SW, etc. A deed might say NNE when SSW is meant, or SE when NE
>>> is meant. I don't know if those errors are more likely to originate
>>> with the surveyor or just from clerks rushing to finish copying the
>>> deed, but I can say that sometimes I catch myself getting my east and
>>> west backwards in real life. I know it's left or right, but sometimes
>>> when I'm not paying attention I'll say something is east when I mean
>>> to say west!
>>> Errors in length are easy to imagine. A hurried clerk might mean to
>>> copy "311" and by accident he writes down "31".
>>> If you think about it, there are many many ways that you can probably
>>> imagine errors occurring.
>>> This of course says nothing about problems that arise from declination
>>> which are fairly easy to catch as long as everything else is correct.
>>> Greg Matthews
>>> On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Renee <dennis.newman(a)cox.net> wrote:
>>>> I don't have a question about deedmapper but a question in general
>>>> I am entering deeds from Sampson County, NC for an ancestor of mine,
>>>> deedmapper. When he died, his land was divived into 11 equal parts.
>>>> When the estate was settled in 1815 the 11 deeds were entered into
>>>> record, one after the other and each deed states that each heir
>>>> 272 acres and the tracts have been marked with stakes, so I assume they
>>>> were surveyed for this division.
>>>> They are so messed up. I have only 2 that are even close to 272 acres
>>>> (one 273 and one is 287). 2 are well over 300 acres, 1 is at 300, 1 is
>>>> 290, 1 is 250, 1 is 230, 2 are about 150, 1 is only 3 acres (I know
>>>> left off a corner or two)!! I've double and triple checked myself
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