I have found it is also fairly common for the numbers to be transposed.
For example, 62 -> 26, 45 -> 54, etc.
But, on a negative note, some deeds I may never find the true
boundaries. It appears that they have been sold as part of larger
parcels so the original boundaries disappear forever. On the other hand,
some have been subdivided so much, without good documentation of
intermediate owners, that reconstruction will always be problematical.
On 6/17/2012 11:48 AM, Steve Broyles wrote:
"with same" and "by the same" mean "going along the property
line just mentioned".
"in a line of person X" means somewhere on one of person X's property
I entered the parcel as follows. (You can copy it to the Text View.) Sure enough,
it doesn't close! It looks like it wants to be a strange kind of rectangle, which
angles of the sides want to more or less be the same.
1. When you look at it in the Plot View the first line really stands out
as being incorrect. Note the angle of 38/45. There's another line that has the
angle. Change N38/45W to N38/45E and the two lines are now parallel to each
other and the parcel gets much better. Northeast rather than northwest.
2. Now look at the second line. Its angle is 61 degrees. But a number of other angles
are 51/15. This suggests that 61 should be 51. Making this change
causes the parcel to close pretty well. (Fifty and Sixty look very very similar when
written in old script. Twenty and Seventy have the same problem.)
! Metes and bounds
Pt A) in a line of John Zoller
Ln N38/45W; 50p; with Zoller
Pt B) cor of Anthony Vanderslice
Ln s61e; 66.4p; Vanderslice
Pt C) cor of Christian Gross, to be conveyed to Mattes
Ln s38/35w; 12p; with same
Ln s51/15e; 40p;
Pt E) corner
Ln n38/45e; 12p;
Pt F) cor in sd Vanderslice's line
Ln s51/15e; 48p; Vanderslice
Pt G) another cor of sd Gross
Ln s38/45w; 54p; Gross
Pt H) cor of Daniel Sahlor
Ln n18w; 7p; Sahlor
Ln n51/15w; 147.4p;
From: "Christine Gray" <sanukgray(a)gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 1:38 AM
Subject: [DMU] Understanding early Pennsylvania land deeds
> I have had Deed-Mapper for many years, used it when it first came out on
> 3.5" floppy, then got side-tracked with life.
> Currently using version 4.1
> I have been wanting to map an ancestor's many land deeds hoping to narrow
> down when he died by the buying and selling of his land and this is my
> project for this month.
> I am working with 1790-1800 land deeds in Montgomery County, outside of
> Philadelphia, PA and struggling with the land descriptions in some of the
> deeds, what to abstract out and what to ignore and how to interpret some of
> the phrases ie "thence by the same ..." or "in a line of ..."
> I have had some success with a couple, but ...
> Here is one I have struggled with all afternoon.
> beginning in a line of John Zoller's land
> thence by the same north 38/45 west 50 perches
> to a corner of Anthony Vanderslice’s land
> thence by the same south 61 degrees east 66.4 perches
> to a corner of Christian Gross land intended also to be shortly conveyed to
> said Mattes
> thence by the same south 38/35 west 12 perches
> thence south 51/15 east 40 perches
> to a corner and north 38/45 east 12 perches
> to a corner in said Vanderslice’s line
> thence by the same south 51/15 east 48 perches
> to another corner of said Christian Gross
> thence by the same south 38/45 west 54 perches
> to a corner of Daniel Sahlor’s land
> thence by the same north 18 degrees west 7 perches
> and north 51/15 west 147.4 perches
> to the place of beginning
> containing 45 acres and 40 perches
> I tried just entering it as I see it, abstracting it out into a text doc,
> then entering it and it plots as a convoluted mess. I even tried deleting
> some of the descriptions.
> Any assistance or direction as when where I can find helping interpreting
> these deeds would be greatly appreciated.
> Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day.
> Teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime.
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