I have never seen the will of Ann Jones Daniel of England. But
if you can give me whatever reference you have to it, I'll see if I can
come up with a copy for us. I may be able to take a week in April and
go to Salt Lake City. April is about the earliest I can get there from
Phoenix on the highways, without the possibility of needing chains, snow
As for documentation connecting Thomas of Tyrrell to Owen, other
than Owen's will mentioning a son Thomas, all I have is the possibility
that Thomas and descendants used the name Simon in their family. But I
know that you and John Clarke and others have made a much greater study
of Thomas of Tyrrell than I have. So my question for you is, given our
current assumptions about which Thomas was which, is it still true that
the name Simon occurs in the family of Thomas of Tyrrell?
Even if the name Simon does not occur, then I think one can
still argue that there were "associations" between the family of Thomas
of Tyrrell, and the family of Simon, which would suggest that the two
families were closely related.
Also, to conclusively prove that Thomas of Tyrrell was NOT the
son of Owen, one would need to come up with an early Thomas, other than
Thomas of Tyrrell, who WAS the son of Owen. In southern research,
proximity is an important clue.
You know, this is not "New England Journal" stuff. It is not
hard facts. It is just "preponderance of evidence;" and a hope to come
up with a few hard facts, eventually.
On the children of the various Simon Daniels, my current
inclination is to just go out on a limb, for a while, and see what I can
come up with in support of a "three Simons" theory. In other words, a
first Simon, son of Owen who was born in the 1680's, who never left
Chowan, or not by far. This Simon was literate. In any case he
probably never made it to Edgecombe. As far as I know, only the
extremely early Chowan deeds have ever been published. So Chowan
records definitely need to be checked on microfilm, or the originals in
NC, if someone is headed that way. This would have been the Simon who
married Elizabeth Rogers. This Simon could have died in Chowan or
nearby, maybe in the early 1740's or as late as 1750.
This first Simon I (and I'm really speculating here) could have
had several sons, including Joseph, Hardy (died 1760), Robert, William
(died 1789), and Simon II (died 1763 in Edgecombe). The men just
mentioned, Joseph, Hardy, Robert, William, and Simon II, all showed up
in early Edgecombe records about the same time, in the late 1740's or
early 1750's, with Simon II being the first.
With this theory, it was Simon II who married Elizabeth Bentley.
Simon II was the son of Simon I and Elizabeth Rogers.
And it was Simon II who had a son Simon III, who married
Elizabeth Pettypool. It was Simon II who left a will in 1763 in
Edgecombe, mentioning several children by name, and OTHER children. And
it was Simon II's wife Elizabeth [Bentley] who mentioned most of the
same children, with the exclusion of a daughter Mary, who may have died
without issue, and with the inclusion of three other daughters,
Drucilla, Sarah, and Elizabeth. These last three could have been the
younger OTHER CHIDLREN mentioned in 1763 by Simon II.
Note that this interpretation of the Simons meshes in very well
with Pettypool research. It makes Simon III the right age to have
married Elizabeth Pettypool, daughter of Stephen Pettypool, born circa
1725, etc. The Pettypool research can easily be found on the web.
I'll update my own records on Rootsweb / Ancestry.com
And needless to say, I'm just trying to open up avenues for
research, with my speculation. I'm not suggesting that I have answers.
Constructive feedback will be appreciated.