I think the point you are making is that William Daniel (m. Elizabeth Coleman) may have
been misassigned by prior compilers because your family tradition points to a Welsh,
rather than Anglo-Saxon or Norman, origin and the DNA test indicates a Celtic
"halotype". It is certainly possible that early compilers misassigned him as
they made many, many "leaps of faith" in their attempts to tie all the lines
together into a minimum number of lineages. However, it may also be premature to
conclude, based on your DNA tests, that William himself, or whoever was the immigrant in
his line, was necessarily born in Wales.
The DNA tests are not specific to any particular individual, but to most of one's
entire male lineage. Perhaps the Celtic connection did come from William, but perhaps it
was his father, or his great, great, great, great, great grandfather. That connection
could have occurred in the 1600s, 1400s, even the 1200s. The test only tells you that it
happened "sometime" in the past.
I certainly make no claims to be an expert regarding these DNA tests, but the main lesson
that I'm coming away with from the DNA results to date is that there are no exact
matches between your Daniel line and any of the others tested so far. Your William Daniel
does not appear related to William Daniel of Middlesex for example, even in the distant
past. The DNA tests are useful primarily in telling you other lines to whom you are not
I'm sure it was reassuring to get the Celtic halotype results since that is compatible
with your family tradition. But even if it had shown a Viking halotype that wouldn't
necessarily negate your family tradition because one relates to DNA and the other relates
to place. Normans were essentially of Viking origin and many Normans received estate
grants in Wales, so one could still have a Viking halotype lineage which would not be
incompatible with a family tradition of centuries of residence in Wales. At least this is
my interpretation of these tests.
Date: 2003/01/28 Tue PM 12:04:34 EST
Subject: Re: [DANIEL-L] RE: ASBURY DANIEL
John, I understand that which you cited is now on the DNA website. However,
initially it stated only "Wales" which is exactly from where my grandmother
said our DANIEL families came... long before DNA. At one time, I had a
historical website marked on the DANIEL families in WALES going way back in
time there... about the 1300s and earlier. However, this is not what I'm
trying to point out, and hopefully cause interest... it is that William
DANIEL who married Elizabeth COLEMAN, and whom our family has long believed
were the parents of Edmund... may not be exactly whom researchers have
thought in the past, i.e. not actually connected to those appointed by them
and needs more thought.
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