Do y ou decend from the Isle of Wight Godwins? I connect through John Cotton who married
Martha Godwin who have Patient Cotton who married John Speirs. I also connect to the
Bennetts, Bridges, Jeffreys, Norfleets , etc. Is this part of your line I posted? Vickie
Father: William Godwin b: ABT 1648 in Isle of Wight County, Virginia
Mother: Elizabeth Wright b: ABT 1650 in Isle of Wight County, Virginia
Marriage 1 John Cotton b: 22 APR 1658 in Queens Creek, Isle of Wight County, Virginia
Married: in Isle of Wight, Virginia
Event: Marriage Record in Isle of Wight County, Virginia Marriages 1628-1800
Event: Marriage Record 1701 in D.B. 2 p., 67-9 ; G. B. 2 p., 52.
Marriage Ending Status: Death of one spouse
Isle of Wright County, Virginia D.B. 2 p.69 & G. B. 2 p. 52.
Marriages of Virginia Residents Vol I, Part II, Surnames C-D, Page 160 Children
Anne Cotton b: ABT 1692
Patience Cotton b: ABT 1703
Samuel Cotton b: ABT 1708
Alexander Spotswood Cotton b: 1711 in South Quay, Nasemond County, Virginia
Arthur Cotton b: 9 SEP 1716
--- On Sun, 4/1/12, P. A. Miller <gen(a)pamiller.net> wrote:
From: P. A. Miller <gen(a)pamiller.net>
Subject: Re: [DANIEL] DNA Question - 37 markers on different surnames
To: "daniel-list" <DANIEL-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: Sunday, April 1, 2012, 6:10 PM
It's Pam in CA (from the ancestry project). I'm only going to talk about the
marker match question here; I'll collate and send some Daniel/Godwin info a bit
A little bit of unfortunate news, given that you've already done a couple tests and
upgrades...here it comes. When looking at different surnames, you still have to be careful
at 37 markers. There really aren't an infinite number of possible DNA results, so
different surnames can match at 37 markers but still not be closely related enough to find
a common ancestor within a genealogical time frame. It's called "random
convergence". It's also the big problem with 25 marker tests and why FamilyTree
tried to get rid of them a few years ago, the results can lead to erroneous connections.
When this potential random convergence at 37 comes up, the only way to be certain of a
relation is to upgrade the two tests to 67 (your Daniel and the Godwin test). If the match
holds up then you can be sure of close blood relation. We have a case of this in the
Middlesex Daniel project where the different surname matches held up, but I just finished
the same work on a
different surname of mine fo!
r another potential surname crossover where the 37 match didn't hold up at 67.
I see at the Goodwin/Godwin project that the tests you match have one that already is at
67 markers, so that's the good news. Their oldest ancestor is is the John Godwin
1760-1800 NC. The test for the older Thomas Godwin d. 1676 in VA IOW is only at 37. But if
you match the one at 67 markers, you'll know to keep going on the possible surname
crossover; of course it might be better to get the Thomas Godwin tester to upgrade.
The other good news is that your 37 at marker CDYa is one of the most volatile; the CDY
markers mutate about 7 times as fast as the average of all the 37 markers - they are at
the extreme end of the volatility range. Two of the other Theophilus tests have the same
36 that the Godwin tests show. That makes your 37 a mutation that is not necessarily
significant in judging the match to Godwin.
You can find medium decent info about the 37/67 marker issue regarding different surnames
in the FAQs at FamilyTree. It's in the bottom right hand box on your personal page,
called Resources or Other Resources or some such.
And the last news (good/bad?): the upgrade from 37 to 67 markers is currently $99, but
your brother probably won't have to test again, ftDNA still has his sample ready to
Pam in CA
On Apr 1, 2012, at 12:20 PM, Rhonda Daniel McCune wrote:
My brother supplied DNA to the Daniel DNA project. We are kit
B1458. Our earliest known ancestor is Theophilus Daniel, b. abt. 1786, NC, d. Butler, AL
1865. I am one of the many people who are trying to identify the father of Theophilus,
who many say is the "elusive" William Daniel. I hoped that the DNA project
would help me along in this quest but it has raised many more questions than answers. We
have an exact match at 37 markers with a known Daniel cousin (not realizing that he had
already tested), and a one-step match with another Daniel who also lists Theophilous as
the earliest known. There is one other 2 step match. And that's it - no other close
matches within the project if I am interpreting the results correctly. (It's really
hard for me to read the data on the project website so I'm just going by the matches
that show up on FTDNA)
However, the thing that has me most puzzled is that we have two exact matches at 37
markers with two different men named GODWIN. We also have an exact match with a third man
named GODWIN on the Ancestry DNA project. I've contacted these matches and none of
them knows of any Daniel/Godwin connection. The Godwin name shows up in Virginia and
North Carolina in the same areas that I've been looking for my Daniel's. Does
anyone have any suggestions on how I should proceed with my research?
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