This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tunnelm1 Surnames: Smith, George, Waller, Chinn, Elliott, Blakey, Waller, Daniel, Thilman, Bennett, Young, Garrett, Carter, Brown, Tribble, Copeland Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.daniel/2238.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Pam....just as a follow-up, I now know that the John M. Smith in Lancaster Co., VA was NOT the John Smith who married Sarah Waller, and whose aunt Clara Smith married Garrett Daniel and George Blakey. The John Smith who married Sarah Waller APPARENTLY left Mathews Co., VA before 1810, and I BELIVE that he was the John Smith who was on the 1810 and 1820 Essex Co., VA census (and it appears that Sarah Waller died between 1810 and 1820). Note: The above John M. Smith (who married Sarah Y. Chinn) does appear to have been related to the John Smith who married Sarah Waller, since both men seem to "trace back" to a common ancestor in Middlesex Co., VA. The following is interesting: 1) Clara Smith and her first husband Garrett Daniel had Anna/Ann Daniel, and Anna/Ann Daniel was almost certainly the wife of John Thilman. That John Thilman was apparently a son of Paul Thilman and Jane George (a daughter of ROBERT GEORGE and Sarah Elliott..Sarah was the widow of a Thomas Elliott). 2) Clara Smith's second husband George Blakey was a son of Churchill Blakey and Sarah George (another daughter of ROBERT GEORGE and Sarah Elliott). Note: Clara Smith and George Blakey had Smith Blakey. So....we have Smith Blakey. Smith Bennett, Smith Garrett, Smith Young and my maternal gg-grandfather Smith W. Brown, all apparently named for the same Smith family that "traces back" to the Alexander Smith who died in Middlesex Co., VA in 1696. Note: Clara Smith was a sister of Major Maurice Smith and Catherine Carter, and this last couple were the parents of the John Smith who married Sarah Waller, daughter of Judge Benjamin Waller 3) John Brown married Martha George, and William Brown married Catherine George. Martha and Catherine George were both daughters of John George and granddaughters of ROBERT GEORGE and Sarah Elliott. John and William Brown were brothers whose parents were an older John Brown and Mary Napier. The odds are fairly high (albeit, no proof) that this older John Brown was a son of Daniel Brown and his unknown wife and a grandson of Abraham Brown (died about 1735 in Caroline Co., VA) and Mary Tribble. Abraham Brown was a son of Daniel Brown "I" and Jane Copeland and a grandson of Francis Brown "I," who died in Essex Co., VA in 1691/1692. I strongly believe that "my" John Brown who married Mary Bennett in Middlesex Co., VA in 1805..and who apparently took-in a "Smith infant/toddler" and named him "Smith W. Brown" before 1820..was a member of this same overall Brown family. 4) In 1821, a George Smith married a Sarah Blakey in Essex Co., VA. The odds are fairly high (albeit, no proof) that this George Smith was a son of John Smith and Sarah Waller (the 1820 Essex census showed John Smith with three younger males still in his home. Per a family file that I found on the internet, the Sarah Blakey who married George Smith was a daughter of a younger/later Churchill Blakey and his wife Agnes Anthony, a granddaughter of Thomas Blakey and Ann Haden and a great-granddaughter of the older Churchill Blakey and Sarah George (again, a daughter ROBERT GEORGE and Sarah Elliott). Other information that I recently found, however, seems to make it highly unlikely that this Sarah Blakey was a daughter of the above "second" Chuchill Blakey (his daughter DID marry a George Smith, but that George Smith was in GA by the 1780s, and his wives were named Frances and Mary...one of whom was, I presume, a daughter of the second Churchill Blakey. I think it is safe to ! say, however, that the above Sarah Blakey was out of the same overall Blakey family (in some way). Anyway, there seems to have been a "connection" back to Robert George for all of the above people. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.