I can't help w/contacting, but I can help on the Major General Eugene L. Daniel line
He graduated 1959 from Austin High School in TX El Paso.
It looks pretty clear he's the Eugene Lee Daniel b. 2 Jul 1941 TX El Paso, son of D.
K. and Mabel (Watson) Daniel. [Texas Birth Records]. This works with the tracking below
leading to Anne's ancestor Thomas b. 1786. I surely do remember when she posted the
excitement of finding a cousin tester.
1930 TX El Paso: D. K. Daniel 21 TX AL KS, w/mo Edna M. Daniel 48 KS MI MI, and sibs
1920 TX El Paso: D. K. Daniel 10 TX AL KS, w/parents Rufus B. 35 AL GA AL and Edna M. 38
KS MI MI, and sibs
1910 TX El Paso: D. K. Daniel 1 TX AL KS w/parents R. B. Daniel 26 AL GA AL w/E. M. 23 KS
MI MI, and sibs
1900 TX Lee: Rufus B. Daniel 16, b. Dec 1883 AL GA AL w/parents M. ?. 41, b. Mar 1859 GA
GA GA, and sibs. This M. ?. has second wife Hattie G, they have had 1 child, the 4 earlier
chn are by first wf. This M. ?. is a clergyman, thus Eugene's claim that his great
grandfather was a reverend. The M. ?. is technically M. F. as far as I can tell on the
census, but this would be the A. M. Daniel in the DNA description, it would just mean an
initial error for M. F.
This M. F. looks surely to be Melodious Fields Daniel that Anne described in her posts as
a sib to her guy, and she talked about these people in Chambers AL before coming to TX.
She wrote with a question mark that Melodious may have died in AL, but he went to TX as
did her other people.
1880 AL Chambers: Melodious Daniel 21 AL Unk Unk, in school boards w/Eli Bibb.
1870 ??? I didn't knock too hard in the hunt, should be findable to help resolve the
birthplace conflict between 1880 and all the rest.
1860 GA Troup: Melodias Daniel 1 GA, w/parents S. J. and W. J., and sibs. This is the
Seaborn John s/o the mysterious Thomas Daniel that Anne is searching.
I notice there's also a contemporary Rufus B. Daniel in your group, b. ca Sep 1886 TN,
s/o Charles B. s/o Hiram, threw me off a bit at first, but with the distant earlier
locations I don't see that it really supports a namesake thing going on. This Rufus B.
is also in TX in 1910, in Bexar County.
I didnt' transcribe all the sibs above or check for marriages in the above info. Maybe
among them is another descendant genealogist who was in touch with Anne and can help keep
the search going for her connection to your group.
Re what to do with tests after someone passes away or gets lost. It's a growing
problem but inevitable. I've arranged and am the rep for many DNA tests, Daniel and
other surnames, some have passed on now. The best I can say is that I've got the
necessary info all ready to pass off to the testers or to their heirs to give them control
of the tests when I can no longer do it. The company can't change what's written
or done before on the personal page, only the person in control of the test. The managers
have access to the personal pages of testers but they certainly can't make changes to
that info. I have access to the testers' pages and addresses where kits are sent to in
my Braddock project - obviously I would never reveal that info to anyone, but I would be
willing to write the tester myself explaining the boat you are in and see if they would
accept contact. A similar problem has come up in my Mason testing lines, we all know each
other, but can't alter, amend or correct t!
he info given by one of the testers who's passed away and his wife doesn't have
the info she needs to pass control of the test on and the company can't help with that
- while unfortunate, it's the absolutely correct and imperative protection of info by
them in my opinion). Another parallel sad thing is that all his research ended up in the
wrong hands and may be lost forever! So, the standard plea to all: set up final
instructions to make sure your research gets duplicated and sent to various people when
the time comes.
This is also a big reason why I'm also so sorry to see the drop in the announcing of
test results and sharing of DNA related research on the mail list. Those announcements and
discussions were always very exciting and informative in the early days, no matter whose
group. Some drop in discussion was inevitable as time went on, but only a few have done it
in the last several years. I know there were some line conflict problems early on that
were difficult or uncomfortable, my own group included, and that was no doubt hard on
Kevin, but I think the discussions were worth it, in large part because it put much info
into the archives for future searchers and testers to benefit from. Hate to say
"c'est la vie" on this loss of DNA discussions, but maybe c'est la vie.
Anyway, I've always loved following your DNA group development and it was so thrilling
when Anne's tester matched. I'm so looking forward to hearing one day the
discovery of how her Thomas was somehow near your Hiram - who knows where - before one
went to GA and the other to NC!
Pam in CA
For those interested, Annes' major info posts can be seen below, hers is quite a saga
in hunting DNA:
On Feb 9, 2011, at 1:55 AM, Clay Daniels wrote:
Kit Number 142535
We have one of those unfortunate circumstances in which a participant
sponsored by someone of considerable age is no longer accessible.
Anne O'Brian solicited the DNA test for Eugene Daniel. Anne is close to 80
and the last time I spoke with her by phone she promised to get Eugene's
email address, but when I called later, her phone number was no longer
My interest is that kit 142535 is a match with me and my little gang of
seven. The sad part is that we have probably lost one of our family
I have done a bit of research on Eugene Daniel, and indeed he played a role
in the US & Soviet nuclear arms reduction treaties under President Regan. As
yet I have not found his email address, which I'm sure is quite appropriate
for his place in life.
The real question is what happened to Anne O'Brian, her DNA test
participant, and how should we as a family or DNA project deal with these
inevitable changes in life.
Your ideas would be appreciated.