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Hi everyone...
My Tallman line and Coleman line are connected in the late 1800s in TN. If
anyone is interested or has this connection, drop me a line. However, I'm
writing tonight in regard to Y-DNA testing and genealogy. The Tallman DNA
Project has been underway for about six months. We've tested 9 men and have
2 tests outstanding. So far we have a good base for one Tallman line (a line
well documented genealogically). This gives those who are unable to connect
with this line through documentation a chance to see if they connect
biologically. In my case, our Tallmans are the one test that matches no one.
All the rest are matches, within the acceptable rate for mutations in the
Y-DNA. I'm still hoping that one day we will find a match too. I've not
been able to trace this line back past 1835 in Caswell Co. NC.
A Y-DNA study can only trace an unbroken male line of descendants, the Y-DNA
is passed from father to son, just as the surname is passed from father to
son. It cannot pinpoint what generation the "most common ancestor" is, but
it can give a general idea. In my situation, it has saved me the time and
money of chasing an elusive connection to a Tallman line we are not apart of.
Family Tree DNA <A HREF="www.familytreedna.com">www.familytreedna.com</A> is the service we are using if anyone
is interested in starting a project for the Colemans. All that is needed is
someone to manage it and a commitment from at least 6 people to test to be
able to get the group rate. If anyone is interested in seeing our results,
please visit our project site:
<A HREF="http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~tallmandna/">Tallman DNA Project</A> and for anyone interested in learning more about Y-DNA
testing and other projects this is a good site: <A HREF="http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~allpoms/genetics.html">
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~allpoms/genetics.html</A>
I hope this isn't sounding too "commercial," I've been a subscriber to the
Coleman list for a few years and I just thought there might be some interest
in this. I'm the project coordinator for the Tallman list, but no expert on
Y-DNA testing. I'll be glad to answer any questions I can... or help someone
who wants to start a Coleman project get started.
Best regards,
Rhonda B. Tallman
Hello list.
A couple of us have been tossing this Burwell Coleman back and forth--there
were actually two of them, but that's not important for this question. Does
anyone know where Burwell (Burrell), got his name from? In the 1850 census
of Mecklenburg County, VA, there were a couple of families with Burwell as
their surname. Also (thank you Elsi), my John J. Coleman married an Ann or
Nancy Burwell on December 4, 1839 in Mecklenburg County. However, on
February 3, 1849, he married Isabella Carnefix in Fayette County, VA/WV. Who
are the these people and why did two of the Coleman men named their sons
after them?
Anita
>>>Does anyone know how to convert English "pounds" into American dollars?
>>
>>In today's value or historically? Today, the English pound is
>>approximately $1.55
>
>Thanks, Elsi. I am looking for a value pertaining to 1799, but even at
>that rate, it could not have been much.
Everyone else might be interested in this resource I found. It's called
Economic History and is located at http://www.eh.net One routine shows
the value of the British pound vs the US dollar for all the years from 1791
to 2000. See it at http://www.eh.net/hmit/exchangerates/pound.php
It tells us that in the year 1799, it took $4.13 to buy one British Pound.
Now the story gets somewhat complicated when you start to compare to today's
money. That $4.13 from 1799 could purchase as much as $60.04 does in 2002
(from the calculator at http://www.eh.net/hmit/ppowerusd/ ) and the one
pound from 1799 could purchase as much as 53.08 pounds in the year 2001
(from the calculator at http://www.eh.net/hmit/ppowerbp/ ).
Regards,
Elsi
At 06:22 AM 4/23/2003 -0400, AVolsgirl1(a)aol.com wrote:
>Good morning;
>
>Does anyone know what is up with the list? Every post that I have gotten from
>the list, I have gotten two of. Is it just me?
It's just you -- when I replied, I replied to your e-mail address *and* to
the list. Therefore, you got two copies. It may not be obvious unless you
look at the e-mail headers to see the path taken by the message.
Regards,
Elsi
I would think that the exchange rate would change from day to day, but
one web site I checked,
http://www.bcsd.com/fremont/cmphowm.htm
stated 1 American dollar = 1.69 English pounds.
Again, it all depends on when you wish to make the exchange. Of course,
in relation to genealogy, you might be able to find historical exchange
rates somewhere on the web using one of the many search engines.
Regards,
_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/
Daryl Coleman
Garland, Texas
Homepage: http://www.dkco.com/
Family History Page:
http://www.dkco.com/gen/gendex.html
ICQ UIN # 63679552
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-----Original Message-----
From: AVolsgirl1(a)aol.com [mailto:AVolsgirl1@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 8:57 PM
To: COLEMAN-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [COLEMAN] pounds
Does anyone know how to convert English "pounds" into American dollars?
Anita
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Well, that theory just go blown out of the water.
Roderick Coleman was the son of Richard Coleman
Clevurious Coleman was the son of Joseph Coleman
Obadiah Coleman was the son of Christopher Coleman
Any other thoughts on the connections?
Anita
Fayette County, WV
Hello and good morning list.
Last night I took the 1830 census and wrote down the approximate age for all
of the Colemans found there. I know some of them that belong together, but
wonder if anyone else knows the others. If they are in red, they were listed
as neighbors.
James Ccleman 40-50 years
Obadiah Coleman 70-80
Daniel Coleman 30-40
Benjamin Coleman 30-40
John G. Coleman 40-50
Cluverius Coleman 70-80
Burrell Coleman 40-50
James Coleman 30-40
William Ccleman 20-30
William G. Coleman 40-50
Richard Coleman 20-30
Roderick Coleman 50-60
Wesley Coleman 70-80
Now, this is what we know for fact, according to the will of Clurerius
Coleman -- Benjamin Coleman was his grandson by his son James. However, by
this time James was deceased (according to the will). Also in the will, he
names sons John, Thomas and William.
>From what I can see in the census, I would bet that Cluverius, Obadiah,
Wesley and Roderick are possibly brothers. We know which ones belong to
Cluverius, so that leaves James, Daniel, John, Burrell, and William to be
attached to one of these men.
Another interesting fact; there were at least 24 persons listed in the
household of Roderick Coleman, 20 of these were male. A boys home perhaps?
Can any of you claim these guys and tell me where they fit?
Thanks,
Anita
Anita, Do you know when the Obediah COLEMAN in the Mecklenburg Co VA
1830 census was born? The Obediah COLEMAN in my tree was b. abt. 1811, d.
1838. I think (but not sure) he is related to the COLEMAN'S in Amelia Co
VA. My Obediah ended up in Bedford Co TN...at least for a while.
Let me know if want any info on "my" Obediah. Peace. Barb in FL
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Platte City, Platte Co., Missouri, 1880 census
William G. OLDHAM, head of household, born 1818 in KY, age 62
Rebecca E. OLDHAM, his wife, born 1824 in OH, age 56
Sallie E. COLEMAN, daughter, widowed, b 1857 MO, age 23
Nellie M. COLEMAN, g-dau, b 1879 MO, age 1,
William G. COLEMAN, g-son, b 1877 MO, age 3
Census says father of Nellie and William COLEMAN was born MO.
There may be others in the house, but this is all I've been able to piece
together without looking at the microfilm.
I'm thinking Sallie E. COLEMAN probably remarried after 1880, unless she
died. If she did remarry, it would probably be in MO, KS or AR.
Anyone with any connection to these folks, e-mail me.
Cathy
bbarnes(a)cswnet.com
I have a George Carter with wife Mary in Charlotte Co. VA in late 1700's and
early 1800's, Can't identify our Mrs Carter except she and her husband were
perported to have been born in Virginia. No proof. One son was named
Coleman Carter, b about 1795. It has been my hope that she was a Coleman and
someone in the list will be able to help. George is not from the Halifax
Carters who were numerous. At least it doesn't appear so.
Hopefully,
Virginia Meeker in Florida
Does anyone have any information on Obediah Coleman listed in the 1830 census
of Mecklenburg County, Virginia? Who is he and how does he tie into the line
in Mecklenburg?
Anita McClung
second great granddaughter of John J. Coleman
Does anyone know who this Polly Coleman was who married Ambrose Morris? I
assume that Polly was probably her nickname and her name was likely Mary
Coleman. Ambrose was b. ca 1770 in Halifax Co. VA and first married Nancy
Varney. He supposedly married Polly Coleman on 8 Feb 1816. Ambrose and Nancy
had a child born in Pike Co. KY, and other members of this Morris family also
ended up in Pike County. I have no other info on this particular family, but
this Ambrose (whose father was also named Ambrose) had a sister, Judith, who
is my ancestor. In my Coleman line was a Mary Coleman who I've been able to
find nothing about marriages or children and I'm curious if this could be the
same one.
Thanks for any help.
-Mary Coleman
Nellie M. COLEMAN, b 1879, Mo., is living with her grandfather, William G.
OLDHAM in the 1880 census for Platte City, Platte Co., MO.
Anyone having a connection to this family, drop me a line.
Cathy
bbarnes(a)cswnet.com
The Coleman Family of Mobjack Bay is a website dedicated to the preserving
Coleman family history relating to the immigrant, Robert Coleman, who
settled near Mobjack Bay, Gloucester County, Virginia about 1650. In 1998,
the author, Sherry Nicol, privately published a large two volume
encyclopedia-like work tracing the descendants of Robert Coleman and
Elizabeth Grizzell and their children: Thomas, Robert, Joseph, Grizzel,
Daniel, and John. These children were born from about 1650 to about 1665.
Thomas married Rebecca Unknown; Robert married Ann Spilsbe; Joseph married
Agnes Adelston; Grizzel married Benjamin Clements; Daniel may have married a
Ms. Darby; and John married twice, once to Margaret Unknown, second to Ann
Unknown. Today, Sherry asked me to announce the work is online at:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mobjackbaycolemans/
Wes Coleman
At 01:44 AM 4/15/2003 -0600, ecochran37 wrote:
>The virus is not detected by Norton or McAfee. It sits quietly for 14
>days before damaging the system. It is sent automatically by messenger
>and by the address book, whether or not you sent emails to your contacts.
>
>Here's how to spot it and get rid of it.
>1. Go to start, find or search option
>2. In the file folder option, type the name jdbgmgr.exe
This is a hoax. Read about it at the Norton Anti-virus site
--
http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/jdbgmgr.exe.file.....
html
One should *never* remove any files from your computer in response to an
e-mail like this without checking with an authority first. One also should
never forward any message to *everyone* in your address book.
Regards,
Elsi
Anytime you receive one of those warnings, go to hoaxbusters.com. Chances
are you will find it there as a hoax. By the way, go to that site and look
at what all they have listed. You will be surprised to find a lot of hoax
emails that we are all guilty of passing on at one time or another. It is
some interesting reading. After I found out that most of the missing
children emails are hoaxes (and I have been taken in a time or two), I have
learned to check them out now.
Anita McClung
Second great granddaughter of John J. Coleman
At 01:44 AM 4/15/2003 -0600, ecochran37 wrote:
>The virus is not detected by Norton or McAfee. It sits quietly for 14
>days before damaging the system. It is sent automatically by messenger
>and by the address book, whether or not you sent emails to your contacts.
>
>Here's how to spot it and get rid of it.
>1. Go to start, find or search option
>2. In the file folder option, type the name jdbgmgr.exe
This is a hoax. Read about it at the Norton Anti-virus site
--
http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/jdbgmgr.exe.file....
One should *never* remove any files from your computer in response to an
e-mail like this without checking with an authority first. One also should
never forward any message to *everyone* in your address book.
Regards,
Elsi
Looking for information/connections another STANTON line. John STANTON c 1845
married Bridget CORRIGAN both from Ireland. Their son John P. STANTON
1878-1915 settled in Scranton, PA where he married Anna BELL 1877-1915. John
P. became a doctor. John and Anna BELL STANTON were both killed in an
automobile accident in Scranton. Their children were raised by their
grandparents James BELL b 1842 New Jersey died 1909 and grandmother Margaret
COLEMAN BELL b 1851 Coolcran, Co Mayo, Ireland died 1926 Scranton, PA.
Walton J. Sullivan at wsullivw(a)aol.com
Maternal: COLEMAN, BELL, BRESLIN, BUCKLEY, CLARKE, CORBETT, CURRAN, CUSICK,
FINNERTY, FLYNN, GALLAGHER, GILLIEN, GILLISPIE, GRAY, HANRAHAN, HOBAN,
HOGAN, HORAN, KNIGHT, MELVIN, MC HUGH, MC SHANE, RITTER, SCHUSTER, SCOTT,
STANTON, SULLIVAN, TOUGHER, TOOER, TORGERSON, TRAYNOR, WADE, WAGNER, WALSH,
WEBER
PA-Dunmore, Scranton, Honesdale, Philadelphia; New Jersey; Montana-Anaconda,
Butte; New Zealand, Scotland, England; Ireland-Co Mayo,Co Sligo
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=wsullivwhttp://www.gencircles.com/users/wsullivwhttp://www.familytreemaker.com/users/s/u/l/Walton--J-Sullivan/index.html