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Hi Listers,
I will re-post as it has been awhile.
John COLEMAN married Catherine FISHER 1856
Children
James Anthony COLEMAN b. 1858 ?
Anna Maria COLEMAN b. 1859 Boston, Mass.
Mary Ellen COLEMAN b.1861 Boston, Mass.
Hariot Jane COLEMAN b.1862 Boston, Mass.
Joseph Mansfield COLEMAN 1896 Boston, Mass.
Does this look familiar to anyone?
Chris in Plymouth
Hi List,
'Thought maybe someone would be interested in this:
From the Kinmundy Express:
May 21, 1936:
James Thomas COLEMAN, aged 86, died Friday (May 15) at the home of his
daughter, Mrs. Anna MUNSON in Pana. He was a native of Kinmundy, born
Dec 1, 1849, son of James and Sarah Ann COLEMAN. His wife, who before
marriage was Charity Elizabeth WILLIAMS, a sister to Mr. Jake WILLIAMS,
of this city, preceded him in death several years. He leaves 5 children,
11 grandchildren and 9 great grandchildren. Services were held in Pana
and interment was made in that city.
Is anyone out there researching this family? I would love to exchange
information.
Cathy Whitney
ceebeew(a)gte.net
HELLO: DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A JIM COLEMAN WHO DIED IN 1973 MAYBE IN BENTON CO. OR PERRY CO. TN OR SURROUNDING COUNTIES. HE WAS MARRIED TO SUSAN ROBERTS COLEMAN B. 1845 AND DIED 1890. THEY HAD THREE SONS NAMED PETER, FRANK AND JAMES ABNER COLEMAN. DON'T KNOW HIS AGE OR ANYTHING. ALL THE PEOPLE WHO WOULD KNOW HAVE GONE ON. HIS WIFE REMARRIED LATER TO AUSTIN GIBSON ORIGINALLY FROM PERRY CO. TN.
THANKS. ALICE BARKER
I am trying to connect my Charles S. COLEMAN with an unattached Coleman
female also. I believe him to be eligement son of a Coleman, and possible
she married a MARTIN later, and he may have used that name also...I need some
new info to research... this has been going on for about 25 years...so you
know how frustrated I am! :)
Charles S. Coleman was born abt. 1842. He was thought to be from Alabama,
but could have been born in another southern state. He fought for the
Confederacy, and I do have record of him from 1870 to 1906 ( died in 1906).
Just can't find anything on him prior to 1870!
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Dix
Does anyone have any Colemans in the late 1700s in Buncomb Co,NC?I am trying
to find parents of a Nancy Coleman b abt 1812 in Bumcomb co NC.She married a
Branch.Nancy possibly had a sister,Mary that was abt 10 yrs older.If anyone
has a Tree with a Nancy in it that maybe fits her profile I would love to
hear from you.I would be happy with an unattached Female Coleman or even a
family that may have been hers.At least then I would have something new to
work with.
Thanks for any info,April
I am seeking information regarding Rev. William Coleman born in PA, sometime between 1820-1850, married Sarah Elizabeth Leigh, born in NJ. They were living in IL in 1872 when a daughter Cora Arvilla Coleman was born. I have a picture of William, who appears to be about 50, taken at Brandt Studios, Hammond, IN. He was a clergy person, but I do not know which denomination. He may have served at a rescue mission in IL later in his life. He and Sarah may have been divorced and they may have remarried.
Does anyone have any information regarding Rev. William Coleman, Sarah Leigh Coleman, and any other siblings, parents, marriages, locations, etc? I would appreciate any help I can get to get past my brick wall.
Susan
Well - it's a good list and good discussion. I know I've learned a lot
and met a lot of nice people via the Internet, and not to take any info
gained "as gospel" and that I need to do more and learn more about
careful recordkeeping of sources!
I wish I knew if our Coleman "brick wall" was related to any of the ones
recently talked about in the discussion ... all we know is that Joseph
Coleman was born in Co. Tipperary around 1828 and he came over to
America with a brother near his age when they were in their teens. They
were supposedly separated upon arrival (when? where?) and he never was
in contact with Colemans again, to our knowledge. Family lore has it
that they were stowaways (could be why I can't find them on the 100's of
passenger lists I've checked for that period) and his brother was
possibly named Francis/Frank and they worked with horses, possibly Army,
either in Ireland, US or both.
We know he married Bridget Fennell/Finnell (b. 1825 Co. Clare) and they
had Mary (Foley) in Ohio in 1855 and Michael and Margaret/Mag (Judge) in
Missouri, and Catherine/Kate (Judge) and finally my husband's great
grandfather Joseph Francis in Monroe County, Iowa in 1871.
Hope to someday make connections to their life prior to 1871! Good
hunting & God Bless.
Steve & Marilyn Coleman in West Des Moines, Iowa
Always searching for info on Steve's gg grandparents from Ireland:
Coleman/Fennell; McGinn/Kelly; Sinnott/Richards; O'Connor/Sullivan;
Smith/Mahoney; O'Brien/Devine; Crall/McCarty; Heyland/Egan
Re: ROBERT COLEMAN
So much has been posted about ROBERT COLEMAN's that I thought I would see
if there is anyone related to mine. My Robert Coleman was born 1787 in
Ireland. He was mar. to Sarah ? They migrated to America in the early
1800's. I do not know where they settled. They had at least one child,
David Coleman, whom I am descended from before leaving Ireland. After living
somewhere in America for several years, they migrated on to Ameliasburgh,
Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada. Before leaving for Canda, they had
other children born in U.S. They were: Charles b 1815-17 (he could have
been born in Ireland), James S. b 1818, John b 1819, Jane Ann b 1824, and
Robert b 1826. After settling in Amelisburgh they remained there until their
deaths and are buried there. This ROBERT COLEMAN probably had other
siblings who remained in the U.S.; I do not know. IS THERE ANYONE SEARCHING
THIS LINE OF COLEMANS? Thanks. Rose Mary
Congratulations, Sherri, for a very clear, honest, and necessary
statement...not just for the Coleman's. I belong to the Prince George/Amelia
Co. VA Coleman line, the earliest documented ancestor being William. Has
anyone ever been able to sort out the families of Coleman's in Charles Citie
and/or their relationship? It would be of enormous help, if so, because there
are a few too many of the same Christian name to determine which one was
William's father. Of COURSE he had a son named Robert! Did y'all think
otherwise???
Suzanne Watt
It's not just the Internet. Be suspicious of anyone else's research unless
they provide the proof to go with it. My father started researching the
family genealogy many years ago, before the Internet was even thought of.
He paid some researchers as well as did a lot himself. However, on my
Buckner line (I'm descended from Levi Woodbury Coleman and Mary Belle
Buckner through their daughter Medora Maggie Coleman), I discovered that
what I had didn't match what others had (and here the Internet helped).
Somehow (I still don't know how my dad made the connection), the line was
listed through the wrong line of a man with the same name as my line, but
born far too soon to be the right one. Through the help of a very
knowledgeble researcher, we think we have this one figured out, although the
"proof" is circumstantial at best. Even so, my line and the line in error
joined back up going back a few more generations (I was lucky). I still
have many brick walls, but now am more thorough on my documentation and if I
obtain info from someone else, I document that too along with what there
proof is, if available.
I'm sure most everyone posting info is doing with good intentions, but take
it all with a grain of salt. There was/is a lot of incorrect information in
written form, even dating back a hundred years, both intentional erroneous
geneologies and false names on forms given by ancestors who wanted to
disappear.
So far, I haven't been able to tie my Coleman line back to any of the
Roberts, but I appreciate your and everyone's efforts to provide accurate
information and correct erroneous info when it is discovered.
Dave Davidson
>From: "SHERRY NICOL" <pr9toes(a)gte.net>
>To: COLEMAN-L(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: The Internet and Genealogy
>Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 16:11:18 -0400
>
> The Internet is going to ruin genealogy if steps aren't taken to ensure
>that postings are supported by evidence wherever possible. If no evidence
>exists, the information should be stated as unproven. Too many people are
>making up names to fill in gaps in their family tree, then posting that
>information as fact. There ought to be a law against posting fictional
>information because doing so does a great disservice to serious researchers
>who care about accuracy. Anyone who posts information on the Internet
>should be willing to supply sources to those who ask for them. If sources
>aren't provided, then it's safe to assume that the information isn't worth
>spit.
> For over twenty years, I've been researching the Coleman family of Mobjack
>Bay, VA in an effort to find the parents and ancestors of my Revolutionary
>War grandfather, Spencer Coleman. I collected every scrap of information
>with the Coleman name on it and began fitting together the pieces of the
>Coleman puzzle. Several years ago, I obtained a copy of Judge Solon
>Bernard Coleman's manuscript through the inter-library loan program from
>the Virginia State Library. Judge Coleman never published his manuscript,
>which he completed in 1959, more than 40 years ago.
> For all those years, his manuscript was the most comprehensive and
>thoroughly researched compilation ever done on the Mobjack Bay Coleman
>family. With the help of hundreds of Coleman descendants across the
>country, in addition to Judge Coleman's manuscript and my own research, I
>was able to bring some order to the mystery of how the thousands of
>Coleman's fit together. Judge Coleman and I both concluded that much of
>the early speculation regarding our family tree, some dating back to the
>1800's, was wrong. Perhaps because Judge Coleman's manuscript was never
>published, and my own 1998 book "The Coleman Family of Mobjack Bay, VA" is
>equally unknown, much of that old, early speculation about our Coleman
>immigrant is being posted on the Internet as fact.
> During the past two decades, a tremendous amount of new records have been
>transcribed or found, all of which help to correct the old, traditional,
>wrong information. For those of you who are descended from this line, I'll
>try to correct some of those errors and give you some background on our
>immigrant ancestor, Robert Coleman of Mobjack Bay, VA.
> There were four Robert Coleman's in early Virginia at about the same time.
> (1) Robert Coleman of Isle of Wight Co. did not leave any male
>descendants. (2) Robert Coleman of Nansemond Co. had two sons, William and
>Robert, who both died in Edgecombe Co. NC in the mid-1700's. This line is
>being developed by Wes Coleman and other Nansemond/Edgecombe Co.
>descendants. (3) Robert Coleman of Charles City Co. was the subject of
>"The Robert Coleman Family From VA to TX, 1652-1965" by former Mississippi
>Governor James P. Coleman, now deceased. This line tended to migrate into
>the Carolinas and across the south to Texas. (4) Robert Coleman of Mobjack
>Bay was the progenitor of the majority of Coleman's in Virginia. For the
>most part, his descendants migrated into KY, TN and westward. However, a
>few of his descendant lines settled in the Carolinas and other southern
>states, further complicating the effort to trace the separate Coleman
>lines.
> Henry Coleman, the first Coleman to settle permanently in Virginia, was
>NOT the grandfather of our immigrant ancestor, Robert Coleman. If you see
>this posted on the Internet, request the source and verify it.
> Henry's "son", Richard Coleman, is pure fiction. If you see this posted
>on the Internet, request the source and verify it.
> This fictional Richard Coleman was NOT the father of our Robert Coleman.
>If you see this posted on the Internet, request the source and verify it.
> Robert Coleman of Mobjack Bay was NOT married to Elizabeth Mott in Ireland
>or anywhere else. (Evidence proving this is from the Brent-Eleigh,
>Suffolk, England baptism, marriage and death records.) If you see this
>marriage posted on the Internet, request the source!
> There is no evidence that Robert Coleman of Mobjack Bay had more than one
>wife. If he did, she was certainly NOT Elizabeth Mott. If you see this
>posted on the Internet, request the source.
> Any record in which our ancestor's name appears, lists him as "Robert
>Coleman", no middle name, no middle initial. If you see his name on the
>Internet as "Robert Edward Coleman", request the source and verify it!
> If you see his son listed as "Robert Edward Coleman Jr." on the Internet,
>request the source and verify it!
> The theory that Daniel Coleman's wife was a Miss Darby is unproven, based
>only on the idea that Darby Coleman was a son of this couple. It should be
>noted on any Internet posting that her surname is unproven.
> Changing an ancestor's name, or GIVING them a name, without any proof
>whatsoever, is irresponsible. The name of Daniel Coleman's wife does NOT
>appear in any existing records (unfortunately). If you see her name posted
>on the Internet as "Patience" or "Ann" Darby, request the source and verify
>it!
> There is no evidence that Daniel Coleman had more than one wife. If you
>see this posted on the Internet, request the source and verify it.
> If you want to post your Coleman family tree on the Internet, it should
>begin with the immigrant Robert Coleman (NOT a son of Richard or grandson
>of Henry or anyone else for that matter).
> Using available records, and the history, laws and customs of early
>Virginia, this is what is currently known about Robert Coleman of Mobjack
>Bay: He was born ca. 1630 in England and was brought to America as a young
>boy. It is possible, but ONLY speculative, that he was a son of the Edward
>Coleman whose name appeared on a list of headrights in 1637 (brought to
>Elizabeth City). The next year, in 1638, Edward's name appeared on a list
>of people residing in Lower Norfolk Co., and his age was listed as 26 "or
>thereabouts". The name of our immigrant ancestor, Robert Coleman, appeared
>on a list of headrights in Upper Norfolk Co. in March 1638. Anyone who is
>familiar with the headright system in VA (p. 19 of my book), will
>understand the confusion regarding the concept. It is impossible to
>determine the date an ancestor arrived in VA, based on a headright list.
>Therefore, we can only say with certainty that Robert Coleman of Mobjack
>Bay was in VA by March 1638.
> His name appeared in York Co. records between 1646 and 1648 as a witness.
>(A witness did not have to be 21 years of age.) I believe Robert met and
>married Elizabeth Grizzell in York Co., but this too is speculation.
> The area above the York River was Indian land, although a few white men
>had been granted large tracts of land in that area as early as 1635. (It's
>extremely unlikely that any white men lived on that land at the time of the
>grants, due to the Indians' fondness for massacres.) In 1649, the House of
>Burgesses decided to open the land for white settlement, despite their
>treaty with the Indians. Robert Coleman and his wife were probably among
>the first settlers to build rafts and cross the York River to Tindall's
>Point in what later officially became Gloucester Co.
> Robert Coleman probably settled along the Severne River, somewhere between
>Tindall's Point and Mobjack Bay. Rivers and streams provided the easiest
>means of transportation in the early days of the colony. They were also a
>source of food, and necessary for the shipment of tobacco. Robert and his
>family lived in Abingdon Parish. Virginia law required that all births and
>deaths be recorded in a parish register. Unfortunately for researchers,
>the Abingdon Parish Register was destroyed in 1676 during Bacon's
>Rebellion. The baptisms of Robert and Elizabeth's children were recorded
>in that register, lost to us forever.
> The six known surviving children of Robert Coleman and Elizabeth Grizzell
>were Thomas, who married Rebecca Claiborne (surname unproven); Robert, who
>married Ann Spilsbe; Joseph, who married Agnes Adelston; Grizzell, who
>married Benjamin Clements; Daniel, who married Miss Darby (first name
>unknown, surname unproven); and John, who married 1st Margaret (surname
>unknown) and 2nd Ann (surname unknown).
> Our immigrant ancestor, Robert Coleman, died after May 1682, the last date
>his name was mentioned in Gloucester Co. records. The year of Elizabeth
>Grizzell's death is unknown.
> Those are the facts regarding our immigrant ancestor. Any embellishments
>to those facts would be irresponsible, particularly if posted on the
>Internet. Sometimes we only have circumstantial evidence to work with,
>especially in the case of so many lost and destroyed Virginia records. If
>a theory is proposed, based on available evidence and an educated guess, it
>should always be listed as "unproven".
> To make up a name for an ancestor and post it on the Internet as a proven
>FACT is grossly unfair to serious researchers. It also defies logic.
>Don't be a graduate of "The College of Genealogical Fiction".
> If you see information posted on the Internet that is not verified by your
>own personal knowledge, always request a source and verify it. This is the
>only way we can protect ourselves from the misguided souls who prefer to
>write fiction rather than do actual research.
> If you have any questions about this posting, or would like more
>information about the Mobjack Bay Colemans, please e-mail me at
>pr9toes(a)gte.net
>
>Sherry Nicol
>
>
>
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The Internet is going to ruin genealogy if steps aren't taken to ensure that postings are supported by evidence wherever possible. If no evidence exists, the information should be stated as unproven. Too many people are making up names to fill in gaps in their family tree, then posting that information as fact. There ought to be a law against posting fictional information because doing so does a great disservice to serious researchers who care about accuracy. Anyone who posts information on the Internet should be willing to supply sources to those who ask for them. If sources aren't provided, then it's safe to assume that the information isn't worth spit.
For over twenty years, I've been researching the Coleman family of Mobjack Bay, VA in an effort to find the parents and ancestors of my Revolutionary War grandfather, Spencer Coleman. I collected every scrap of information with the Coleman name on it and began fitting together the pieces of the Coleman puzzle. Several years ago, I obtained a copy of Judge Solon Bernard Coleman's manuscript through the inter-library loan program from the Virginia State Library. Judge Coleman never published his manuscript, which he completed in 1959, more than 40 years ago.
For all those years, his manuscript was the most comprehensive and thoroughly researched compilation ever done on the Mobjack Bay Coleman family. With the help of hundreds of Coleman descendants across the country, in addition to Judge Coleman's manuscript and my own research, I was able to bring some order to the mystery of how the thousands of Coleman's fit together. Judge Coleman and I both concluded that much of the early speculation regarding our family tree, some dating back to the 1800's, was wrong. Perhaps because Judge Coleman's manuscript was never published, and my own 1998 book "The Coleman Family of Mobjack Bay, VA" is equally unknown, much of that old, early speculation about our Coleman immigrant is being posted on the Internet as fact.
During the past two decades, a tremendous amount of new records have been transcribed or found, all of which help to correct the old, traditional, wrong information. For those of you who are descended from this line, I'll try to correct some of those errors and give you some background on our immigrant ancestor, Robert Coleman of Mobjack Bay, VA.
There were four Robert Coleman's in early Virginia at about the same time. (1) Robert Coleman of Isle of Wight Co. did not leave any male descendants. (2) Robert Coleman of Nansemond Co. had two sons, William and Robert, who both died in Edgecombe Co. NC in the mid-1700's. This line is being developed by Wes Coleman and other Nansemond/Edgecombe Co. descendants. (3) Robert Coleman of Charles City Co. was the subject of "The Robert Coleman Family From VA to TX, 1652-1965" by former Mississippi Governor James P. Coleman, now deceased. This line tended to migrate into the Carolinas and across the south to Texas. (4) Robert Coleman of Mobjack Bay was the progenitor of the majority of Coleman's in Virginia. For the most part, his descendants migrated into KY, TN and westward. However, a few of his descendant lines settled in the Carolinas and other southern states, further complicating the effort to trace the separate Coleman lines.
Henry Coleman, the first Coleman to settle permanently in Virginia, was NOT the grandfather of our immigrant ancestor, Robert Coleman. If you see this posted on the Internet, request the source and verify it.
Henry's "son", Richard Coleman, is pure fiction. If you see this posted on the Internet, request the source and verify it.
This fictional Richard Coleman was NOT the father of our Robert Coleman. If you see this posted on the Internet, request the source and verify it.
Robert Coleman of Mobjack Bay was NOT married to Elizabeth Mott in Ireland or anywhere else. (Evidence proving this is from the Brent-Eleigh, Suffolk, England baptism, marriage and death records.) If you see this marriage posted on the Internet, request the source!
There is no evidence that Robert Coleman of Mobjack Bay had more than one wife. If he did, she was certainly NOT Elizabeth Mott. If you see this posted on the Internet, request the source.
Any record in which our ancestor's name appears, lists him as "Robert Coleman", no middle name, no middle initial. If you see his name on the Internet as "Robert Edward Coleman", request the source and verify it!
If you see his son listed as "Robert Edward Coleman Jr." on the Internet, request the source and verify it!
The theory that Daniel Coleman's wife was a Miss Darby is unproven, based only on the idea that Darby Coleman was a son of this couple. It should be noted on any Internet posting that her surname is unproven.
Changing an ancestor's name, or GIVING them a name, without any proof whatsoever, is irresponsible. The name of Daniel Coleman's wife does NOT appear in any existing records (unfortunately). If you see her name posted on the Internet as "Patience" or "Ann" Darby, request the source and verify it!
There is no evidence that Daniel Coleman had more than one wife. If you see this posted on the Internet, request the source and verify it.
If you want to post your Coleman family tree on the Internet, it should begin with the immigrant Robert Coleman (NOT a son of Richard or grandson of Henry or anyone else for that matter).
Using available records, and the history, laws and customs of early Virginia, this is what is currently known about Robert Coleman of Mobjack Bay: He was born ca. 1630 in England and was brought to America as a young boy. It is possible, but ONLY speculative, that he was a son of the Edward Coleman whose name appeared on a list of headrights in 1637 (brought to Elizabeth City). The next year, in 1638, Edward's name appeared on a list of people residing in Lower Norfolk Co., and his age was listed as 26 "or thereabouts". The name of our immigrant ancestor, Robert Coleman, appeared on a list of headrights in Upper Norfolk Co. in March 1638. Anyone who is familiar with the headright system in VA (p. 19 of my book), will understand the confusion regarding the concept. It is impossible to determine the date an ancestor arrived in VA, based on a headright list. Therefore, we can only say with certainty that Robert Coleman of Mobjack Bay was in VA by March 1638.
His name appeared in York Co. records between 1646 and 1648 as a witness. (A witness did not have to be 21 years of age.) I believe Robert met and married Elizabeth Grizzell in York Co., but this too is speculation.
The area above the York River was Indian land, although a few white men had been granted large tracts of land in that area as early as 1635. (It's extremely unlikely that any white men lived on that land at the time of the grants, due to the Indians' fondness for massacres.) In 1649, the House of Burgesses decided to open the land for white settlement, despite their treaty with the Indians. Robert Coleman and his wife were probably among the first settlers to build rafts and cross the York River to Tindall's Point in what later officially became Gloucester Co.
Robert Coleman probably settled along the Severne River, somewhere between Tindall's Point and Mobjack Bay. Rivers and streams provided the easiest means of transportation in the early days of the colony. They were also a source of food, and necessary for the shipment of tobacco. Robert and his family lived in Abingdon Parish. Virginia law required that all births and deaths be recorded in a parish register. Unfortunately for researchers, the Abingdon Parish Register was destroyed in 1676 during Bacon's Rebellion. The baptisms of Robert and Elizabeth's children were recorded in that register, lost to us forever.
The six known surviving children of Robert Coleman and Elizabeth Grizzell were Thomas, who married Rebecca Claiborne (surname unproven); Robert, who married Ann Spilsbe; Joseph, who married Agnes Adelston; Grizzell, who married Benjamin Clements; Daniel, who married Miss Darby (first name unknown, surname unproven); and John, who married 1st Margaret (surname unknown) and 2nd Ann (surname unknown).
Our immigrant ancestor, Robert Coleman, died after May 1682, the last date his name was mentioned in Gloucester Co. records. The year of Elizabeth Grizzell's death is unknown.
Those are the facts regarding our immigrant ancestor. Any embellishments to those facts would be irresponsible, particularly if posted on the Internet. Sometimes we only have circumstantial evidence to work with, especially in the case of so many lost and destroyed Virginia records. If a theory is proposed, based on available evidence and an educated guess, it should always be listed as "unproven".
To make up a name for an ancestor and post it on the Internet as a proven FACT is grossly unfair to serious researchers. It also defies logic. Don't be a graduate of "The College of Genealogical Fiction".
If you see information posted on the Internet that is not verified by your own personal knowledge, always request a source and verify it. This is the only way we can protect ourselves from the misguided souls who prefer to write fiction rather than do actual research.
If you have any questions about this posting, or would like more information about the Mobjack Bay Colemans, please e-mail me at pr9toes(a)gte.net
Sherry Nicol
I just subscribed to this mailing list and wanted to let everyone know the
Coleman's I am looking for.
Baxtimas Bartimus Coleman, born 1842 (place unknown)
Married Madora Ann Benton in Marshall Co., MS in 1865
Their children are: Garrett T., James E., Nancy Mittelene, Edna Ethel,
Willie L., and Horace. Edna Ethel Coleman was my great grandmother.
I think Baxtimas Bartimus Coleman's father's name was Edward.
If anyone knows anything about this family I would love to hear from you.
Still searching,
Sandra
----- Original Message -----
From: Leslie Bishop
To: Coleman-L(a)rootsweb.com
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 7:14 PM
Subject: Thomas Coleman Baldwin Co. Ga (Gone to Ga)
I am always searching for his parents, and origin. My dad says his parents always told him the Coleman's came from Va. Can any one identify the following family. Could this be my Thomas? or does any one know where they belong. From "Gone to Georgia" Page 269
Coleman: John Coleman from Va. obtained Ceded lands on the north side of Broad River Oct 13, 1773, and his will written Oct 22, 1778 named his wife Susannah and children James, John, Thomas, Susannah, Charlotte and Elizabeth. ...1785 tax list, Raglan's dist. (Elbert County) were the younger John Coleman.
other Coleman info in this article. Joel Darsey, Jefferson co. Planter, was granted land on Sandy Creek, Jackson (then Franklin Co.) Dec 10, 1788 which he sold Nov 13, 1801 to William Coles of Richmond County , the land at that time adjoining the farm of Reuben Coleman. (Ruben of Richmond County owned land in several counties). John Coleman was living in Jackson Co. July 14, 1800 when he witnessed a deed for Eldridge Hargrove. He obtained headright land in 1805 and the same year was in Jackson lottery list.He witnessed a deed sept 30, 1814 for William Woods and left a will in Jackson Co. None of the name was enumerated in Jackson in 1820. Thompson Coleman was administrator in 1831 and John Coleman in 1832 of the estate of Eleanor Nelson of Wilkes Co., Ga. John Wilson asked that Mr. Coleman send him his legacy from Mrs. Nelson on behalf of his late mother, Lucy Wilson of Jackson Co. In 1820, Samuel Coleman, a Revolutionary soldier, was living in Walton Co. and in 1827!
he drew Muscogee Co land granted May 6, 1836. In Gwinnett Co., in 1820 Philip (no 101) Hesekiah (no. 116) and Abner Coleman (no 160) were enumerated; Abner, also a Revolutionary Veteran, in 1827 drew Muscogee Co. land which reverted. A Turner-Coleman marriage is indicated in the will of John Turner of Columbia co., Ga (Nov 4, 1820/Jan 3, 1825) who mentioned his son D. Coleman Turner of Columbia co, granddaughter Martha Rebecca Coleman, The names Abner and John Coleman were found in Union District SC, in 1790 and Hezekiah in Laurens District. One Philip g. Coleman was a resident of St. Clair co, Ala., by 1818 where he was a Justice and Hiram Coleman entered land in 1820. Philip was a state representative during early 1820's and died at the home of his son James L. Near Columbus, Miss. "
I was told verbal history about my mother's family by her mother, wife of
Finesse Elmo Coleman b. 1891 TX. s/o William Samuel Coleman b. 1848 TN s/o
Joshua C. Coleman b. 1823 TN. Grannie said there was a Long or Lane kin
someway she did not remember any more. She died 1983. Since then I have
learn more about her family, but I have found very little about my
grandfather's family in TN. Does anyone have a Long or Lane family in their
information. Also I want information about a Jesse Coleman TN wife was
Frances he was JMH and they had a daughter Lucy this would be 1800 to ?
Bedford CO area of TN. Someone sent me information about Lucy and husband
and Frances and land records and will for JMH Coleman. Lighting hit close to
our house, interfered with our pc and I lost the e mail.
Alicia
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wes Coleman (h)" <wcoleman(a)pdq.net>
To: <COLEMAN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 7:18 AM
Subject: Re: Thomas B. Coleman b. 1833 married 1855 to Lucy in Rappahanock,
Va.
> Dan & Linda wrote:
> <
> Early Records of N. Carolina Vol. III Loose Papers & related Material
> 1712-1798 (from Sec. of State Papers) Abst.: Dr. S. E. Bradley, Jr. 1993
> Pg. 36 Thos. Coalman, Jas. Price, Jno. Turner (Coleman possibly spelled
> incorrectly?- I have Price and Turner connected to my ancestors.
> Pg. 37 Kader Coleman 1762 S. Side Swift Creek Robert COLEMAN, Mr. Holt
> ( My Coleman line married into GILBERT, both found early in Halifax area
of
> N.C. and HOLT were close friends of my GILBERT line from N.C. to Tenn.)
> Pg. 104- Names shown: John Solcum appraisal by Majr. Wm. Hancock
Robt.
> Coleman (Hancock was a guardian for GILBERT's in 1850 guardianship
records
> in Wilson CO., Tenn.)
> >
>
> Kader Coleman is one of my ancestors. I believe we can show a line back
to
> Robert Coleman of Nansemond County Virginia beginning in 1684, if not
> before. I have an article online about the descendants of Robert Coleman
of
> Nansemond County VA:
> http://freeweb.pdq.net/wcoleman/cole1684.htm
> When printed, it comes out to about 21 pages, so it would be too long to
> repost here. In it I record Kader as Cadar, not that this is a definitive
> spelling of the name but his name is spelled differently every time it is
> found in official records, even in court records where he is recorded as a
> juror. Each time the list of jurors appears for one week's jury duty, his
> name is spelled differently. So, you can take your pick.
>
> In it I have another connection between Price and Coleman:
> Jonathan Coleman married Keziah Price on January 4, 1763
>
> Since we also have recorded for us the marriage of Kader Coleman and
> Susannah Stephenson on April 5, 1764, it is apparent the two couples were
> contemporaries.
>
> A prior search I did of the Price list archives for Colemans had turned up
> this post by Cheryl regarding the burial of Ada Coleman and James Alford
> Price in the Deep Creek Cemetery.
>
> I'd love to hear more about your Thomas B. Coleman and the rest. Would
also
> love to see the page where Kader's name appears, though the south side of
> swift creek sounds familiar, so I may have seen this recorded somewhere
> before, though the word "Swift" does not appear in my article on line.
>
> Are you connected to Ada Coleman of Halifax County, NC?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Wes Coleman
> COLEMAN GENEALOGY - Wes Coleman's Genealogy Page
> http://freeweb.pdq.net/wcoleman/genealogy.htm
>
Dan & Linda wrote:
<
Early Records of N. Carolina Vol. III Loose Papers & related Material
1712-1798 (from Sec. of State Papers) Abst.: Dr. S. E. Bradley, Jr. 1993
Pg. 36 Thos. Coalman, Jas. Price, Jno. Turner (Coleman possibly spelled
incorrectly?- I have Price and Turner connected to my ancestors.
Pg. 37 Kader Coleman 1762 S. Side Swift Creek Robert COLEMAN, Mr. Holt
( My Coleman line married into GILBERT, both found early in Halifax area of
N.C. and HOLT were close friends of my GILBERT line from N.C. to Tenn.)
Pg. 104- Names shown: John Solcum appraisal by Majr. Wm. Hancock Robt.
Coleman (Hancock was a guardian for GILBERT's in 1850 guardianship records
in Wilson CO., Tenn.)
>
Kader Coleman is one of my ancestors. I believe we can show a line back to
Robert Coleman of Nansemond County Virginia beginning in 1684, if not
before. I have an article online about the descendants of Robert Coleman of
Nansemond County VA:
http://freeweb.pdq.net/wcoleman/cole1684.htm
When printed, it comes out to about 21 pages, so it would be too long to
repost here. In it I record Kader as Cadar, not that this is a definitive
spelling of the name but his name is spelled differently every time it is
found in official records, even in court records where he is recorded as a
juror. Each time the list of jurors appears for one week's jury duty, his
name is spelled differently. So, you can take your pick.
In it I have another connection between Price and Coleman:
Jonathan Coleman married Keziah Price on January 4, 1763
Since we also have recorded for us the marriage of Kader Coleman and
Susannah Stephenson on April 5, 1764, it is apparent the two couples were
contemporaries.
A prior search I did of the Price list archives for Colemans had turned up
this post by Cheryl regarding the burial of Ada Coleman and James Alford
Price in the Deep Creek Cemetery.
I'd love to hear more about your Thomas B. Coleman and the rest. Would also
love to see the page where Kader's name appears, though the south side of
swift creek sounds familiar, so I may have seen this recorded somewhere
before, though the word "Swift" does not appear in my article on line.
Are you connected to Ada Coleman of Halifax County, NC?
Thanks!
Wes Coleman
COLEMAN GENEALOGY - Wes Coleman's Genealogy Page
http://freeweb.pdq.net/wcoleman/genealogy.htm
Above is my ancestor. I have found a Joseph Coleman of Scotland Neck, N.C. who is his son. (and my grandfather's brother)
I also have an Ada Coleman & James Alford Price buried next to one another in Deep Creek Cemetery, Halifax Co., N.C.
this post to PRICE discussion list dated 2 Oct. 1966 by Cheryl Jones- I connected Price to my Coleman line through old letters of 1950's that my grandmother had. I hope Cheryl has seen "The Price's of Rutherfor Co., N.C." I HAVE NOT, but would like to.
I understand it begins with John Ernest Price b. Wales moved to London, England, left for Am. 1770 Arrived Wilmington, N.C. his father rec'd. a land grant in Tyron Co., now Rutherford in 1770 Allied families are GILBERT, Davis, Thompson, Wright
(I have GILBERT AND COLEMAN ancestors) Found some connection of Coleman & Price. My Gilbert's married Davis and also have a GILBERT as bondsman for a marriage of Sally Wright in Wilson Co., Tenn.
Early Records of N. Carolina Vol. III Loose Papers & related Material 1712-1798 (from Sec. of State Papers) Abst.: Dr. S. E. Bradley, Jr. 1993
Pg. 36 Thos. Coalman, Jas. Price, Jno. Turner (Coleman possibly spelled incorrectly?- I have Price and Turner connected to my ancestors.
Pg. 37 Kader Coleman 1762 S. Side Swift Creek Robert COLEMAN, Mr. Holt ( My Coleman line married into GILBERT, both found early in Halifax area of N.C. and HOLT were close friends of my GILBERT line from N.C. to Tenn.)
Pg. 104- Names shown: John Solcum appraisal by Majr. Wm. Hancock Robt. Coleman (Hancock was a guardian for GILBERT's
in 1850 guardianship records in Wilson CO., Tenn.)
COLEMAN, HOLT, HANCOCK, TURNER, GILBERT (other researchers have found some of these names tied together around the
same dates and area- I have information on all)
If anyone has Cheryl's new e-mail, I'd like to hear from her again. Also, please contact me if you believe any of your COLEMAN lines
connect with the above.
I requested a msg board for the clergy at ancestry.com. Below is the url.
It is for all of us to enter our ancestors that were members of the clergy.
I thought it would be benifical to have one spot where our ancestors were
gathered as clergy (no matter what the faith). I hope you all agree. Glitz
http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/brd/rw/Mg%2ADIAE
I am trying to find two old friends and classmates...Their names were Peggy
Lee Coleman and her sister Phyllis...married names unknown to me...Their
fathers name was Walter and he was an officer in the Army...his rank was Lt.
Col. when I was last in contact with the family...I am told Mr. Coleman was
retired and living on Monza Drive in Richmond ,Virginia when he passed away
in 1987...Peggy Lee would be about 65 and Phyllis would be 62...Both ladies
attended William and Mary College.
I would appreciate any information that could be supplied on the whereabouts
of my old friends.
Many thanks for your time and best regards.