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Author: jmax745
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Trust me, I know how hard it is to get the info right. Your info is correct, but the parents of Robert have to be disregarded. That Robert did exist, but was Rebecca's stepson instead of husband. I haven't found any info anywhere about Robert Sr.'s parentage. All I've found is that Robert was born in Scotland in 1688.
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Author: Trok14
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Quoting: "Almost all of the questions in this and the previous post on this thread are answered in the 1930 book "The Coggeshalls in America" (TCIA)."
My post was to point out that original sources for early New England families are available and can often settle long-standing puzzles and answer questions correctly. The story of Benoni Weaver is one such puzzle; the answer has been there all along in the records.
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Author: SandyCoggeshall
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I certainly agree about the difficulty of using sources that do not provide detailed source information -- such as The Coggeshalls in America (TCIA). I made the same point just about an hour ago, posting an answer on another Coggeshall thread on this site.
It is highly possible that Benoni (Coggeshall) Weaver was out of wedlock and not the actual son of Josiah Coggeshall. Birth records from back then generally tired to hide the lack of an identifiable father for a child. Also, those in this family providing information to the two men who compiled TCIA would also want to hide this fact. And they could get away with this because they did not need to cite any sources for their information. So you are prorbably correct in this assertion.
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Author: SandyCoggeshall
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So this is the Rebecca Coggeshall on page 21 of "The Coggeshalls in America" (TCIA). My Copy of the book says the following about this marriage:
"Rebecca Coggeshall, born Newport, RI on Dec 19, 1721, married Newport, RI, December 30, 1742, by Peter Burns, Justice, ROBERT TAYLOR, son of Robert and Patience (Widow Chapman) Taylor. He was born Newport, RI, December 11, 1722. She was his third wife."
And the error is that the Robert Taylor she married was born in 1688 in Scotland and not in 1722 in Newport, RI. I wonder if Peter Burns, Justice actually married this couple? I wonder if the correct Robert Taylor's father and mother are properly identified? You do indicate that Rebecca was Robert's third wife, as shown in TCIA.
Given that this is a book about the Coggeshall family (not the Taylor family), this seems (IMHO) a minor error, not a major error.
I am certain that this branch of the Coggeshall family (which is not my branch) is probably aware of this minor error. Yet you appear in your first posting to condemn all of the information contained in "The Coggeshalls in America" because of this one error.
It turns out that genealogy is very difficult to get 100% correct. One minor error, like citing an incorrect Robert Taylor, can blemish a perfect record.
Well, I know for a fact that there are other errors in TCIA, some more major that this one. On pg 282 Horace Greeley Coggeshall should be listed as the last member of the Eighth Generation (counting President John as the First Generation in America). The original printing of TCIA shows all listed members after Horace as being members of the Eighth Generation, when in fact they were actually members of the Ninth Generation or Tenth Generation in America. This major error was corrected by my father, Reobert Walden Coggeshall, before TCIA was reprinted in 1988. Is the genealogy information in TCIA accepted by the "Royal Bastards" as sufficiently accurate to prove one of their very difficult to prove lines? NO ! But the information in this book is better than much that is available on the internet -- and I suspect TCIA is the source of a good deal of this internet information.
Excellent genealogy requires that sources for information be cited, and TCIA does very little of that. But for those trying to determine relationships in this unique family, it is certainly an adequate tool, and not to be dismissed as casually as you have done.
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Author: Trok14
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Not all questions can be adequately answered by secondary-source published genealogies, especially those with no source notes.
Hannah Weaver was the daughter of Thomas Weaver. Apparently her son Benoni Weaver was an OOW child. His birth is in Middletown RI records as Benoni, son of Hannah; no father mentioned. In my experience when records are written this way, the father has not acknowledged the child or the mother has chosen not to pursue it. When the father acknowledged the child, it received his surname.
In Thomas Weaver's will, he mentions his daughter Hannah, now married to Josiah Coggeshall, and his grandson Benoni Weaver. With the birth record that makes two original sources. I could find no record of an elder Benoni Weaver in any records of the time, although have not done a thorough search.
Someone else interested in this family asked me to look for evidence of the elder Benoni because I live in the right area; it is not my family. Further research into court records, land records and tax records would bring to light any older man named Benoni if he was in the colony at the time, and would shed light on the legend that young Benoni "changed his name to receive an inheritance."
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I've already spoken to someone who claimed to be a member of the family about this, and HE knew what I was talking about. Rebecca Coggeshall, daughter of Benjamin Coggeshall and Sarah Easton, married Robert Taylor of Newport, b. 1688 in Scotland, not Robert Taylor who was born in the 1720s. Rebecca was Robert's third wife.
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Author: SandyCoggeshall
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Given the way that "The Coggeshalls in America" was assembled, it's a wonder there are not more errors in it -- glaring or not. If you have access to the Coggeshall Historical Association's reprinted version (1982) of "The Coggeshalls in America" that my father produced (and made some correction in versus the original 1930 edition), you should read the explanation my father provided of how this book was assembled. This appears on the back of the picture of Charles Pierce Coggeshall (pg 241) and the back of the picture of Thelwell Russel Coggeshall (pg 317).
So that I might correct my versions of this book, please advise me which of the following list of 19 completely different Rebecca Coggeshalls (taken from the book's index) is the one with the "glarring error" of an incorrect husband, (and what should the notation be corrected to read?):
On pg 14 Rebecca Coggeshall marries John Reynolds.
On pg 17 Rebecca Coggeshall dies at age 6 months.
On pg 20 Rebecca Coggeahall dies at age 10 years.
On pg 21 Rebecca Coggeshall marries John Freebody.
On pg 23 Rebecca Coggeshall dies at age 3.5 years.
On pg 26 Rebecca Coggeshall marries Peleg Wood.
On pg 39 Rebecca Coggeshall marries James Easton.
On pg 48 Rebecca Coggeshall marries James Weaver.
On pg 63 Rebecca Chipman Coggeshall marries Thomas Coggeshall (4th cousins).
On pg 75 Rebecca Coggeshall marries Oliver Wightman.
On pg 96 Rebecca Coggeshall dies just short of age 2.
On pg 96 the next girl in this family was also named Rebecca Coggeshall who marries 1) Amherst D Scoville 2) Dr Joel R Andrews.
On pg 118 Rebecca Whitman Coggeshall marries Edwin C Johnson.
On pg 166 Rebecca Chipman Coggeshall marries Moses Barlow.
On pg 192 Rebecca Coggeshall marries Jesse Cates.
On pg 213 Rebecca Ann Coggeshall remains single.
On pg 242 Rebecca Booth Coggeshall marries Benjamin Bill.
on pg 264 Rebecca Ann Coggeshall dies at age 6 months.
On pg 341 a Rebecca Coggeshall is noted with no dates or other information.
Also, since you mention "some glaring errors," this implies there are more than this Rebecca Coggeshall error. Please advise us of what those other "glaring errors" could be.
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The 1930 book, The Coggeshalls In America, has some glaring errors. Do your own research to check. They list Rebecca Coggeshall as marrying her stepson, not Robert Taylor, the shipbuilder. My great grandmother, Susan Maria Taylor, was a direct descendant.
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