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Hi cousins, :)
I've neglected to offer you all a challenge earlier this month. I just
happened to realize it after missing it in the archives moments ago.
So, a little late, here it is...
The beginning of a new year ~ the chance of a new beginning for our
research. Has that new cousin joined us yet? Taking no chances, your
challenge this month is your brick walls.
Nope... it isn't a roll call. Please don't send in a Joe Doe and Mary
Whoever marriage, thinking that's all we need to identify the couple.
Tell us what you know; tell us what you've done. Our senior researchers
just might have a hint or two that can help you.
This is a brick wall conference!
Send your challenge responses to the family at
<COGGESHALL-L(a)rootsweb.com>.
Enjoy! :)
Colleen
To help prove my earlier point that "Bob Coggeshall did take credit for most of the genealogy information posted on his site," I find the following statement on Bob Coggeshall's Home Page:
"Coggeshall Family Genealogy. Soon you will be able to access my family genealogy, a database containing almost 7,000 family members descended from Thomas de Coggeshall, my 25th great grandfather, who lived in England circa 1149. But in the meantime, you can read some articles I have written on the Coggeshall family history."
The underlining above was done by me.
Bob Coggeshall Home page is located at:
http://www.users.nyc.pipeline.com/~kiowa/index.html
From this Home Page you have to scroll down to the section marked "Coggeshall Family Genealogy."
When you click on this section, it takes you to a page labeled: "Coggeshall Family Genealogy" where you can scroll down past the Coggeshall Coat of Arms to this list of Articles:
"The following articles are from the pages of The Coggeshall Historical Association Bulletin:
a.. John de Coggeshall: A 14th Century English Knight
b.. The Coggeshall Slide Rule
c.. The Coggeshall Name
d.. The Coggeshalls In England
e.. The Coggshall Saddle
f.. The Coggeshall Farm Museum
g.. Colonel William Turner Coggeshall
h.. The Joshua Coggeshall Cemetery
i.. Coggeshall Lace
j.. The Coggeshall Launch & Tow Boat Company "
So John Dennis is correct that "The Coggeshall Historical Association Bulletin" is given credit. But no where do I see a listing of the specific authors of these individual articles. And when you click on each article, there is no credit given to the author. So I go back the underlined statement by Bob Coggeshall (above) to see that they all are "articles I have written on the Coggeshall family history." In my mind, this statement means that Bob Coggeshall "takes credit for writing these articles." I suggest you go look for yourself.
I had some difficulty getting the internet to take me to this "Bob Coggeshall Home Page" -- you may too.
The Coggeshall Family Genealogy page is located at:
http://www.users.nyc.pipeline.com/~kiowa/gene.htm
However, I was only successful going to this specific article on The Coggeshall Farm Museum and then working backward by clicking on the appropriate links:
http://www.users.nyc.pipeline.com/~kiowa/farm.htm
PETE Coggeshall
----- Original Message -----
From: "john_dennis" <john_dennis(a)email.msn.com>
To: <COGGESHALL-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 1:46 AM
Subject: Re: [COGGESHALL] Bob Coggeshall Web Site & The Book "The Coggeshalls in America"
> Regarding the book - there are no more copies available as far as I know as
> Bob wrote to me when I got several copies from Bob for myself, my brother,
> my local library genealogy section and
> a close genealogy researcher This was several years ago. Barnes & Noble and
> other book stores have from time to time available used books.
> As far as I know Bob Coggeshall did not take credit for most of the
> information posted on his site,
> but quoted "The Coggeshall Historical Association" from its newsletter which
> I believes gives the
> proper credit to those individuals who wrote the different articles; as he
> got those articles from the
> the CH Association Newsletter and since that is where he got the articles
> that is what he quoted.
> Information is available on Coggeshall genealogy from:
> http://www.uftree.com/UFT/WebPages/kiowa1/default
> and
>
> http://www.uftree.com/UFT/WebPages/kiowa1/default/mindex.htm#Coggeshall
>
> If more information is needed please feel free to contact me for assistance.
>
> Later John ( John Alfred Dennis III -- related by Hannah Coggeshall &
> Robert Dennis)
>
>
>
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Thanks Pete; I will look into this and see if there will be any reprinting.
Shirley (your cousin)
-----Original Message-----
From: Pete Coggeshall [mailto:pcoggeshall@earthlink.net]
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 6:04 PM
To: COGGESHALL-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [COGGESHALL] Bob Coggeshall Web Site & The Book "The
Coggeshalls in America"
Shirley,
I have been trying to contact Bob Coggeshall for about 8 years with no reply
to either e-mails or notes left on his web site.
I have it on good authority that there are no more new copies of the
reprinted book "The Coggeshalls in America" (TCIA) available from either Bob
or the Publisher. Bob's message on this site is quite old and has not been
updated to reflect this fact. You may be able to find a used copy of either
the original 1930 edition or the 1982 reprint of TCIA.
The Publisher of the 1982 reprint has advised me that he plans to do another
reprinting of TCIA, probably in the summer of 2003 -- when he expects to
have sufficient orders to justify the third reprinting. If you are
interested in getting a copy of this third reprinting of TCIA, you should
contact Tom Smith, The Reprint Company, Spartanburg, SC 29304. This is the
address in the 1982 reprint, but I always communicate with Tom via phone.
His phone number is 864-579-4433. He indicated to me that he expected the
reprint to cost about $45 per book. He also said that he expected to do a
limited reprinting -- not many extra copies printed, other than those
ordered.
PETE Coggeshall
----- Original Message -----
From: "Shirley Skerritt" <sams31(a)sc.rr.com>
To: <COGGESHALL-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 7:08 AM
Subject: RE: [COGGESHALL] Bob Coggeshall Web Site & The Book "The
Coggeshalls in America"
> On Bob Coggeshalls site, he said he had copies of "The Coggeshalls in
> America" for $35 , but I cannot get through to him. I would like to get a
> copy of this book, if it is possible.
> Shirley Skerritt
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pete Coggeshall [mailto:pcoggeshall@earthlink.net]
> Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 4:20 AM
> To: COGGESHALL-L(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: [COGGESHALL] Bob Coggeshall Web Site & The Book "The
> Coggeshalls in America"
>
>
> Colleen,
> Welcome to the Coggeshall site. I've been gone and just returned to find
> you are the new administrator. Welcome. Do you have any genealogical
link
> to the Coggeshall line? As you can tell from my name, I do.
>
> To answer a few of Colleen's questions:
>
> - I'm not aware that this list has a "home site."
> - There is a well-known Coggeshall site that is a part of "The Bob
> Coggeshall Home Page" entitled:
> "The Coggeshall Genealogy"
> http://www.users.nyc.pipeline.com/~kiowa/gene.htm
>
> Bob was the president of "The Coggeshall Historical Association" which was
> very active getting the Coggeshall family together through its Newsletter,
> two reunions in Rhode Island and one reunion in England. Most of this
> occurred in the late 1970s through the 1980s. My late father, Robert
Walden
> Coggeshall, was also very active in the Association, writing a number of
> articles for their Newsletter. The Coggeshall Coat of Arms on this site
was
> drawn by my father, and he developed all of the information about this
Coat
> of Arms.
>
> My father was also responsible for the Association's reprinting of the
1930
> book "The Coggeshalls in America" (TCIA) in 1982. This book is "the
bible"
> for tracing Coggeshall ancestry in the USA back to President John
Coggeshall
> (first President of Rhode Island) who came to New England in 1632. This
> book, published in 1930, has very few Coggeshalls listed who were born
after
> about 1900. But if you can connect to any of the 1,992 Coggeshalls listed
> in this book's main section, you can trace your ancestry back to President
> John. Because of corrections my father made to the original manuscript,
the
> reprinted version of TCIA is more accurate and informative than the
original
> printing. The first reprinting of TCIA is now also out of print, even
though
> there is a note on this site stating (incorrectly) that there are a
limited
> number of copies still available. I have talked with the publisher who
did
> the 1982 reprinting and he is considering doing another limited printing.
> Co!
> ntact me if you need further information on a second reprinting of TCIA.
> pcoggeshall(a)earthlink.net
>
> Many of the articles my father Robert Walden Coggeshall wrote for the
> Association Newsletter are now posted on this site (without proper
> attribution). In fact, on the Bob Coggeshall Home Page is this statement:
> "But in the meantime, you can read some articles I have written on the
> Coggeshall family history." This is a "bald faced lie" because I know for
a
> fact that my father wrote the following articles posted there:
>
> - The Coggeshall Slide Rule
> - The Coggeshall Name
> - The Coggeshall Saddle
> - Coggeshall Lace
>
> There are other articles from past newsletters posted on this site. I do
> not know who wrote them, but I'm fairly certain that the author of most of
> these articles was NOT Bob Coggeshall. These other articles include:
>
> - John de Coggeshall: A 14th Century English Knight
> - The Coggeshalls in England
> (the information in this article is not as complete as the information in
my
> father's book "Ancestors and Kin."
>
> - The Coggeshall Farm Museum
> - Colonel William Turner Coggeshall
> - The Joshua Coggeshall Cemetery
> - The Coggeshall Launch and Tow Boat Company
>
> If you click on the link to The 1982 Reunion "Proceedings," you will find,
> among other items, the following:
>
> - Robert W. Coggeshall Paper -- (a speech that my father gave on the last
> night of this reunion).
> - Peter Collin Coggeshall V Paper -- (a condensation from a slide show
that
> I gave on the first night of this reunion, without any of the pictures or
> any reference in the "paper" to the pictures being described).
>
> At least for these two items, Bob Coggeshall provides proper attribution.
I
> have attempted to contact Bob to get the oversight on my father's
authorship
> of his articles corrected, but have not been successful. I have been
told
> that Bob has been quite sick (I think Cancer) for some time. The most
> recent indication of a change in this site by Bob is dated April 5, 1999.
>
> But enough of my complaints about Bob Coggeshall's site. Again, welcome
as
> the list administrator to this site.
>
> I have personal copies of "The Coggeshalls in America," and will be happy
to
> help anyone who wants information from this book. I also have copies of
my
> father's book, "Ancestors and Kin" (A&K) for sale. If you want further
> information about the coverage of the Coggeshall line in A&K, contact me
> directly.
>
> PETE
> (AKA: Peter Collin Coggeshall V)
>
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Shirley,
I have been trying to contact Bob Coggeshall for about 8 years with no reply
to either e-mails or notes left on his web site.
I have it on good authority that there are no more new copies of the
reprinted book "The Coggeshalls in America" (TCIA) available from either Bob
or the Publisher. Bob's message on this site is quite old and has not been
updated to reflect this fact. You may be able to find a used copy of either
the original 1930 edition or the 1982 reprint of TCIA.
The Publisher of the 1982 reprint has advised me that he plans to do another
reprinting of TCIA, probably in the summer of 2003 -- when he expects to
have sufficient orders to justify the third reprinting. If you are
interested in getting a copy of this third reprinting of TCIA, you should
contact Tom Smith, The Reprint Company, Spartanburg, SC 29304. This is the
address in the 1982 reprint, but I always communicate with Tom via phone.
His phone number is 864-579-4433. He indicated to me that he expected the
reprint to cost about $45 per book. He also said that he expected to do a
limited reprinting -- not many extra copies printed, other than those
ordered.
PETE Coggeshall
----- Original Message -----
From: "Shirley Skerritt" <sams31(a)sc.rr.com>
To: <COGGESHALL-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 7:08 AM
Subject: RE: [COGGESHALL] Bob Coggeshall Web Site & The Book "The
Coggeshalls in America"
> On Bob Coggeshalls site, he said he had copies of "The Coggeshalls in
> America" for $35 , but I cannot get through to him. I would like to get a
> copy of this book, if it is possible.
> Shirley Skerritt
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pete Coggeshall [mailto:pcoggeshall@earthlink.net]
> Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 4:20 AM
> To: COGGESHALL-L(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: [COGGESHALL] Bob Coggeshall Web Site & The Book "The
> Coggeshalls in America"
>
>
> Colleen,
> Welcome to the Coggeshall site. I've been gone and just returned to find
> you are the new administrator. Welcome. Do you have any genealogical
link
> to the Coggeshall line? As you can tell from my name, I do.
>
> To answer a few of Colleen's questions:
>
> - I'm not aware that this list has a "home site."
> - There is a well-known Coggeshall site that is a part of "The Bob
> Coggeshall Home Page" entitled:
> "The Coggeshall Genealogy"
> http://www.users.nyc.pipeline.com/~kiowa/gene.htm
>
> Bob was the president of "The Coggeshall Historical Association" which was
> very active getting the Coggeshall family together through its Newsletter,
> two reunions in Rhode Island and one reunion in England. Most of this
> occurred in the late 1970s through the 1980s. My late father, Robert
Walden
> Coggeshall, was also very active in the Association, writing a number of
> articles for their Newsletter. The Coggeshall Coat of Arms on this site
was
> drawn by my father, and he developed all of the information about this
Coat
> of Arms.
>
> My father was also responsible for the Association's reprinting of the
1930
> book "The Coggeshalls in America" (TCIA) in 1982. This book is "the
bible"
> for tracing Coggeshall ancestry in the USA back to President John
Coggeshall
> (first President of Rhode Island) who came to New England in 1632. This
> book, published in 1930, has very few Coggeshalls listed who were born
after
> about 1900. But if you can connect to any of the 1,992 Coggeshalls listed
> in this book's main section, you can trace your ancestry back to President
> John. Because of corrections my father made to the original manuscript,
the
> reprinted version of TCIA is more accurate and informative than the
original
> printing. The first reprinting of TCIA is now also out of print, even
though
> there is a note on this site stating (incorrectly) that there are a
limited
> number of copies still available. I have talked with the publisher who
did
> the 1982 reprinting and he is considering doing another limited printing.
> Co!
> ntact me if you need further information on a second reprinting of TCIA.
> pcoggeshall(a)earthlink.net
>
> Many of the articles my father Robert Walden Coggeshall wrote for the
> Association Newsletter are now posted on this site (without proper
> attribution). In fact, on the Bob Coggeshall Home Page is this statement:
> "But in the meantime, you can read some articles I have written on the
> Coggeshall family history." This is a "bald faced lie" because I know for
a
> fact that my father wrote the following articles posted there:
>
> - The Coggeshall Slide Rule
> - The Coggeshall Name
> - The Coggeshall Saddle
> - Coggeshall Lace
>
> There are other articles from past newsletters posted on this site. I do
> not know who wrote them, but I'm fairly certain that the author of most of
> these articles was NOT Bob Coggeshall. These other articles include:
>
> - John de Coggeshall: A 14th Century English Knight
> - The Coggeshalls in England
> (the information in this article is not as complete as the information in
my
> father's book "Ancestors and Kin."
>
> - The Coggeshall Farm Museum
> - Colonel William Turner Coggeshall
> - The Joshua Coggeshall Cemetery
> - The Coggeshall Launch and Tow Boat Company
>
> If you click on the link to The 1982 Reunion "Proceedings," you will find,
> among other items, the following:
>
> - Robert W. Coggeshall Paper -- (a speech that my father gave on the last
> night of this reunion).
> - Peter Collin Coggeshall V Paper -- (a condensation from a slide show
that
> I gave on the first night of this reunion, without any of the pictures or
> any reference in the "paper" to the pictures being described).
>
> At least for these two items, Bob Coggeshall provides proper attribution.
I
> have attempted to contact Bob to get the oversight on my father's
authorship
> of his articles corrected, but have not been successful. I have been
told
> that Bob has been quite sick (I think Cancer) for some time. The most
> recent indication of a change in this site by Bob is dated April 5, 1999.
>
> But enough of my complaints about Bob Coggeshall's site. Again, welcome
as
> the list administrator to this site.
>
> I have personal copies of "The Coggeshalls in America," and will be happy
to
> help anyone who wants information from this book. I also have copies of
my
> father's book, "Ancestors and Kin" (A&K) for sale. If you want further
> information about the coverage of the Coggeshall line in A&K, contact me
> directly.
>
> PETE
> (AKA: Peter Collin Coggeshall V)
>
>
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On Bob Coggeshalls site, he said he had copies of "The Coggeshalls in
America" for $35 , but I cannot get through to him. I would like to get a
copy of this book, if it is possible.
Shirley Skerritt
-----Original Message-----
From: Pete Coggeshall [mailto:pcoggeshall@earthlink.net]
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 4:20 AM
To: COGGESHALL-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [COGGESHALL] Bob Coggeshall Web Site & The Book "The
Coggeshalls in America"
Colleen,
Welcome to the Coggeshall site. I've been gone and just returned to find
you are the new administrator. Welcome. Do you have any genealogical link
to the Coggeshall line? As you can tell from my name, I do.
To answer a few of Colleen's questions:
- I'm not aware that this list has a "home site."
- There is a well-known Coggeshall site that is a part of "The Bob
Coggeshall Home Page" entitled:
"The Coggeshall Genealogy"
http://www.users.nyc.pipeline.com/~kiowa/gene.htm
Bob was the president of "The Coggeshall Historical Association" which was
very active getting the Coggeshall family together through its Newsletter,
two reunions in Rhode Island and one reunion in England. Most of this
occurred in the late 1970s through the 1980s. My late father, Robert Walden
Coggeshall, was also very active in the Association, writing a number of
articles for their Newsletter. The Coggeshall Coat of Arms on this site was
drawn by my father, and he developed all of the information about this Coat
of Arms.
My father was also responsible for the Association's reprinting of the 1930
book "The Coggeshalls in America" (TCIA) in 1982. This book is "the bible"
for tracing Coggeshall ancestry in the USA back to President John Coggeshall
(first President of Rhode Island) who came to New England in 1632. This
book, published in 1930, has very few Coggeshalls listed who were born after
about 1900. But if you can connect to any of the 1,992 Coggeshalls listed
in this book's main section, you can trace your ancestry back to President
John. Because of corrections my father made to the original manuscript, the
reprinted version of TCIA is more accurate and informative than the original
printing. The first reprinting of TCIA is now also out of print, even though
there is a note on this site stating (incorrectly) that there are a limited
number of copies still available. I have talked with the publisher who did
the 1982 reprinting and he is considering doing another limited printing.
Co!
ntact me if you need further information on a second reprinting of TCIA.
pcoggeshall(a)earthlink.net
Many of the articles my father Robert Walden Coggeshall wrote for the
Association Newsletter are now posted on this site (without proper
attribution). In fact, on the Bob Coggeshall Home Page is this statement:
"But in the meantime, you can read some articles I have written on the
Coggeshall family history." This is a "bald faced lie" because I know for a
fact that my father wrote the following articles posted there:
- The Coggeshall Slide Rule
- The Coggeshall Name
- The Coggeshall Saddle
- Coggeshall Lace
There are other articles from past newsletters posted on this site. I do
not know who wrote them, but I'm fairly certain that the author of most of
these articles was NOT Bob Coggeshall. These other articles include:
- John de Coggeshall: A 14th Century English Knight
- The Coggeshalls in England
(the information in this article is not as complete as the information in my
father's book "Ancestors and Kin."
- The Coggeshall Farm Museum
- Colonel William Turner Coggeshall
- The Joshua Coggeshall Cemetery
- The Coggeshall Launch and Tow Boat Company
If you click on the link to The 1982 Reunion "Proceedings," you will find,
among other items, the following:
- Robert W. Coggeshall Paper -- (a speech that my father gave on the last
night of this reunion).
- Peter Collin Coggeshall V Paper -- (a condensation from a slide show that
I gave on the first night of this reunion, without any of the pictures or
any reference in the "paper" to the pictures being described).
At least for these two items, Bob Coggeshall provides proper attribution. I
have attempted to contact Bob to get the oversight on my father's authorship
of his articles corrected, but have not been successful. I have been told
that Bob has been quite sick (I think Cancer) for some time. The most
recent indication of a change in this site by Bob is dated April 5, 1999.
But enough of my complaints about Bob Coggeshall's site. Again, welcome as
the list administrator to this site.
I have personal copies of "The Coggeshalls in America," and will be happy to
help anyone who wants information from this book. I also have copies of my
father's book, "Ancestors and Kin" (A&K) for sale. If you want further
information about the coverage of the Coggeshall line in A&K, contact me
directly.
PETE
(AKA: Peter Collin Coggeshall V)
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