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The problem doesn't seem to be with Rootsweb. I haven't had any troubles
over the past three days. Tried again just now. The refused data
connection could be a firewall or ISP issue.
Lee
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Scheibe" <dsscheibe(a)earthlink.net>
Subject: [COGEN] rootsweb ftp
I've been trying to upload changes to my sites for the last couple
of days and keep getting "COMMAND:> LIST
425 Can't build data connection: Connection refused.
ERROR:> Server can't open data connection."
Pauli
That file is in the Colorado USGenWeb Archives. It is part of the complete
1911 Colorado Business Directory that Joy Fisher transcribed. As noted by
Annie, the basic information is public domain.
The article may be republished by non-profits if they provide Joy credit for
making the directory transcription available. The Archives would also
appreciate a link in the article back to the transcription.
Lee Zion
Colo USGenWeb File Manager
----- Original Message -----
From: "Polly Anna" <myauntpolly(a)msn.com>
I received this today. I'm not sure of what to tell her. Just being cautious
I guess. This is not my on my pages, and I was not the transcriber. So I'm
passing this on. What should I tell her?
----- Original Message -----
From: Melanie Tafaro<mailto:mel9711@yahoo.com>
Subject: Weld County usgenweb
Hi Pauli--
I was wondering if you could help me....no not with personal research. Just
a question. I am a volunteer with the Milliken Historical Society and I
found on the Weld County usgenweb a listing of the 1911 Milliken Directory:
http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/co/weld/directories/
and we were hoping to use it or parts of it in our newsletter. I emailed
the submitter and have received on reply. Is this part of your website?
And since we are a non-profit can we use it (of course we will cite the
source)?
Please let me know your thoughts.
Thank you so much.
Melanie Tafaro
Milliken Historical Society
I'm not positive but I believe anything that old would be Public Domain. It
would be nice if she cited where she found it but not necessary. The only
thing copyrighted would be the original contributors format.
Ann Allen Geoghegan
AnnieG
I received this today. I'm not sure of what to tell her. Just being cautious I guess. This is not my on my pages, and I was not the transcriber. So I'm passing this on. What should I tell her?
Thanks
Pauli - Boulder and Weld
----- Original Message -----
From: Melanie Tafaro<mailto:mel9711@yahoo.com>
Subject: Weld County usgenweb
Hi Pauli--
I was wondering if you could help me....no not with personal research. Just a question. I am a volunteer with the Milliken Historical Society and I found on the Weld County usgenweb a listing of the 1911 Milliken Directory: http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/co/weld/directories/
and we were hoping to use it or parts of it in our newsletter. I emailed the submitter and have received on reply. Is this part of your website? And since we are a non-profit can we use it (of course we will cite the source)?
Please let me know your thoughts.
Thank you so much.
Melanie Tafaro
Milliken Historical Society
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I am still here. At the moment I am out-of-town and cannot access my home computer. I have been struggling to keep up - and have been on the road quite a bit for the past 3-4 months. Hopefully, things will slow down and I will be able to update everything towards the end of the month. I apologize for any trouble/inconvenience this has caused.
Karla Mahlberg
----- Original Message ----
From: Lee Zion <lzion(a)plains.net>
To: COGEN <COGEN(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 7, 2007 12:57:41 PM
Subject: [COGEN] Karla's Volunteers page...
Since we can't edit the volunteer Who's Who where its at, it would seem
logical to orphan that page and transfer the information to a page in the
~cogenweb directory. Another link on comain to change but you only have to
do it once.
Lee
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Since we can't edit the volunteer Who's Who where its at, it would seem
logical to orphan that page and transfer the information to a page in the
~cogenweb directory. Another link on comain to change but you only have to
do it once.
Lee
At 01:03 AM 10/7/2007 -0600, Gail wrote:
>I was referring to this page:
>http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Ecocheyen/volunteers.htm
>Karla was maintaining this page.
>Why do we have such a weird URL for these pages.
What happened to Karla? I've been trying to get that page changed
for months and Sundee says she doesn't have access to it. I've taken over
two more counties (Costilla and Mineral) and moved my own sites which the
URL's need to be changed, finished the Woodward project a few years
ago and I'd rather not have my full name listed on a webpage any more.
BTW I uploaded the CSS improved Alamosa pages earlier and added a
look up volunteer to the lookups page. Alamosa is the only county I have
that has any active volunteers which is now 2 for Alamosa. I have one for
Rio Grand but she has informed me she is in ill health and can not keep it
up any more.
Someone was talking about index pages the other day, it is better
to code a link thus:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~coalamos/
as opposed to http://www.rootsweb.com/~coalamos/index.html
or http://www.rootsweb.com/~coalamos/index.htm
Because the first will work whether the page is index.html or
index.htm and if they are changed from one to another it still will work.
But if you have it linked to index.htm then for some reason (like I had to
do) it gets changed to index.html those links will no longer work and a 404
page not found error will occur. The main page MUST be the default of
index.htm or index.html unless the server has been configured other
wise. You can name your other pages what ever you want with in reason but
the first page must be index.htm or .html
Scott Scheibe
dsscheibe(a)earthlink.net
http://scottsworld.info/gene.htm
Alamosa Co., Costilla Co., Mineral Co. & Rio Grande Co., Colorado
Coordinator, USGenWeb Project.
<http://www.rootsweb.com/~coalamos/> <http://www.rootsweb.com/~cocostil/>
<http://www.rootsweb.com/~cominera/> <http://www.rootsweb.com/~coriogra/>
Descendants of Capt. Henry WOODWARD
<http://woodward.scottsworld.info/>
I can try to get something together with this ...sometime this week.
At 03:53 PM 10/5/2007, you wrote:
>I have Dreamweaver but never figured out how to use it... dah... on my part.
>
>Before with Mary Ann, certain people maintained certain pages of the website
>and Sundee does have a life before COGenWeb and I know that she could use a
>little help even if she won't ask for it.
>
>I will try again to see if I can download and if Sundee want's to assign
>certain parts of the website to members, I will let her do that.
>
>We have a big website and we should just have a webmaster even if USGenWeb
>says the SC is suppose to maintain the state pages. Sundee should just have
>to worry about telling someone updates rather than starting a
>To-Do-List...that gets set aside until later.
>
>I am still trying to figure out who has what counties and feel bad about
>asking cause it is stupidity on my part for not knowing or keeping tract
>myself.
>
>Thanks to all that replied.
>
>Gail
>
>
>On 10/5/07, Kristina Corey Fuiks <kcfuiks(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I would be glad to look into it with her. Does weknow what kind of help
> > she
> > needs? Is it file uploads, linking or what exactly?
> >
> > Kristina Corey Fuiks
> > kcfuiks(a)hotmail.com
> > Volunteer Coordinator, Otero County Colorado, COGenWeb Project
> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~cootero/
> >
> > "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can
> > change
> > the world." -President Josiah Bartlet, The West Wing
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Gail Kilgore" <gail.kilgore(a)gmail.com>
> > >Reply-To: cogen(a)rootsweb.com
> > >To: cogen(a)rootsweb.com
> > >Subject: [COGEN] State Pages
> > >Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 14:15:04 -0700
> > >
> > >Now I get to ask who wrote the state pages? What were they written with,
> > a
> > >program or by HTML code manually?
> > >
> > >Sundee needs help with keeping our state pages updated and I can't help
> > her
> > >as I can't even get them to download let alone change code.
> > >
> > >What am I doing and what do I need to do to be able to help Sundee? AND,
> > >if
> > >someone else wants to help with the state pages I bet Sundee wouldn't
> > turn
> > >down the offer.
> > >
> > >Gail
> > >
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>10/5/2007 12:27 PM
Hi Gail,
On the below page (Colorado Volunteers), this entry is wrong:
HUERFANO County - - KAREN MITCHELL.
Other Sites: Taos County Coordinator
http://www.rootsweb.com/~nmtaos/index.htm
The correct URL for Taos County should be:
http://www.kmitch.com/Taos/index.html
The Las Animas County link is incorrect, it should be:
http://www.kmitch.com/LasAnimas/index.html
My name should be shown for: Pueblo, Las Animas, Huerfano and Taos.
Thank you!
Karen
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gail Kilgore" <gail.kilgore(a)gmail.com>
To: <cogen(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: [COGEN] Splitting cogenweb...
I was referring to this page:
http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Ecocheyen/volunteers.htm
Karla was maintaining this page.
Why do we have such a weird URL for these pages.
Gail
On 10/6/07, Lee Zion <lzion(a)plains.net> wrote:
>
> Gail
>
> (My thoughts)
>
> The pages in the ~cogenweb directory itself were never split out to
> different people as I remember. They are pretty static except for three
> pages with cc info and a subproject "CO Gold Mine." A webmaster that has
> time to make changes as they happen would be ideal. However more than a
> single person and alternate would be a case of too many cooks.
>
> IMO the Colorado Gold Mine subproject should be split out and published as
> a
> full blown COGenWeb project page or entirely removed. As it stands it is
> long, long out of date.
>
> The pages you are probably thinking of that Mary Ann split out are in
> their
> own project directories.
> Betty Baker has ~comilita (Colorado Military).
> I have ~coplaces (Colorado Places by County).
> COPhotos (~cophotos) has been lacking a webmaster since Addie quit
> us. Mary
> Ann did talk about splitting that one out by county coordinators but we
> never did.
>
> Lee
>
>
>
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(My thoughts)
The pages in the ~cogenweb directory itself were never split out to
different people as I remember. They are pretty static except for three
pages with cc info and a subproject "CO Gold Mine." A webmaster that has
time to make changes as they happen would be ideal. However more than a
single person and alternate would be a case of too many cooks.
IMO the Colorado Gold Mine subproject should be split out and published as a
full blown COGenWeb project page or entirely removed. As it stands it is
long, long out of date.
The pages you are probably thinking of that Mary Ann split out are in their
own project directories.
Betty Baker has ~comilita (Colorado Military).
I have ~coplaces (Colorado Places by County).
COPhotos (~cophotos) has been lacking a webmaster since Addie quit us. Mary
Ann did talk about splitting that one out by county coordinators but we
never did.
Lee
I was referring to this page:
http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Ecocheyen/volunteers.htm
Karla was maintaining this page.
Why do we have such a weird URL for these pages.
Gail
On 10/6/07, Lee Zion <lzion(a)plains.net> wrote:
>
> Gail
>
> (My thoughts)
>
> The pages in the ~cogenweb directory itself were never split out to
> different people as I remember. They are pretty static except for three
> pages with cc info and a subproject "CO Gold Mine." A webmaster that has
> time to make changes as they happen would be ideal. However more than a
> single person and alternate would be a case of too many cooks.
>
> IMO the Colorado Gold Mine subproject should be split out and published as
> a
> full blown COGenWeb project page or entirely removed. As it stands it is
> long, long out of date.
>
> The pages you are probably thinking of that Mary Ann split out are in
> their
> own project directories.
> Betty Baker has ~comilita (Colorado Military).
> I have ~coplaces (Colorado Places by County).
> COPhotos (~cophotos) has been lacking a webmaster since Addie quit
> us. Mary
> Ann did talk about splitting that one out by county coordinators but we
> never did.
>
> Lee
>
>
>
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> in the subject and the body of the message
>
Has anyone recently ordered a photocopy of the actual application for a
Social Security card? Would anyone be able to provide an example of what
they received?
I think that I will be writing a little how-to guide on this when I am
finished with this little exercise I'm going through. Lots I questions have
I today. :-)
Thanks,
Kristina Corey Fuiks
kcfuiks(a)hotmail.com
Volunteer Coordinator, Otero County Colorado, COGenWeb Project
http://www.rootsweb.com/~cootero/
"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change
the world." -President Josiah Bartlet, The West Wing
>From: "Kristina Corey Fuiks" <kcfuiks(a)hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: cogen(a)rootsweb.com
>To: cogen(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: Re: [COGEN] Copies of Wills?
>Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 21:52:31 -0600
>
>Quite the little pickle I am in, huh?
>
>I have no doubt that he had a birth certificate, he was registered with the
>military, and he had a Social Security Number. Now, growing up, my mother
>was told that he was the only one of his mother's children that born in a
>hospital, but now I'm not sure what to think since a birth record has not
>appeared.
>
>In the case of your father, he was listed as Baby Meyer. Did the birth
>certificate always say that, or was it amended to have his proper name?
>Would it note somewhere that the name was updated if that was the case?
>We've been trying our search by using the name he had at his death and what
>we believe that his name was and have had no success with either.
>
>Kristina Corey Fuiks
>kcfuiks(a)hotmail.com
>Volunteer Coordinator, Otero County Colorado, COGenWeb Project
>http://www.rootsweb.com/~cootero/
>
>"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change
>the world." -President Josiah Bartlet, The West Wing
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Gail Kilgore" <gail.kilgore(a)gmail.com>
> >Reply-To: cogen(a)rootsweb.com
> >To: cogen(a)rootsweb.com
> >Subject: Re: [COGEN] Copies of Wills?
> >Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 19:15:38 -0700
> >
> >Military would have asked and if he had a job he had to show a birth
> >certificate to sign up for a SS card and if he was retired and received a
> >pension then he had a SS card and had a birth certificate.
> >
> >My uncle had a delayed birth certificate and he had to have it to get
> >into the military. My father just needed a first name added to the
>county
> >records as he was not named when the Dr. filed the report. So male Baby
> >Meyer had to be changed to his given name. Some of these babies were
> >delivered at home with midwives, some with the help of whoever was
> >available.
> >
> >Gail
> >
> >
> >On 10/5/07, Kristina Corey Fuiks <kcfuiks(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > My grandfather was in the military. I was under the impression that
>the
> > > county would have been able to find the delayed birth certificate
>based
> >on
> > > the information that they were provided.
> > >
> > > I spoke to a very nice woman named Alice from Otero County and she
> >stated
> > > that if even one piece of information was wrong, that could impact the
> > > results as well. Now I admit that I did not see the local researcher
>do
> > > the
> > > work, my mother was very convinced that they tried a number of
> > > combinations.
> > > Do you think that we need to tell them that it's a delayed birth
> > > certificate, or should it not matter? Would the military have asked
>for
> >a
> > > copy to keep, or would the have noted it and given it back?
> > >
> > > Kristina Corey Fuiks
> > > kcfuiks(a)hotmail.com
> > > Volunteer Coordinator, Otero County Colorado, COGenWeb Project
> > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~cootero/
> > >
> > > "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can
> > > change
> > > the world." -President Josiah Bartlet, The West Wing
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Gail Kilgore" <gail.kilgore(a)gmail.com>
> > > >Reply-To: cogen(a)rootsweb.com
> > > >To: cogen(a)rootsweb.com
> > > >Subject: Re: [COGEN] Copies of Wills?
> > > >Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 17:03:00 -0700
> > > >
> > > >More than likely your grandfather didn't have a recorded record of
> >birth.
> > > >That happened a lot of times and usually if one was needed family
> >members
> > > >or
> > > >school teachers verified approx age or something was listed in the
> >family
> > > >Bible.
> > > >
> > > >Was your grandfather in the military? He would have had to have a
>birth
> > > >certificate if he was and it would have been what they called a
>delayed
> > > >birth certificate and that could also be the reason you can't find
>it.
> > > >
> > > >Wills are not always recorded with the county or state. A hand
>written
> > > >will
> > > >with proper signatures is just a valid as one done by an attorney.
> > > >
> > > >Gail
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >On 10/5/07, Kristina Corey Fuiks <kcfuiks(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Dear Friends;
> > > > >
> > > > > If anyone on this list could provide me with any advice, please
>feel
> > > >free
> > > > > to
> > > > > contact me.
> > > > >
> > > > > My grandfather was born in Otero County sometime between the years
> > > 1929
> > > >to
> > > > > 1931. He has since passed away and we do not have a copy of his
> >birth
> > > > > certificate. My mother went to the state office here in Denver
>with
> >a
> > > >copy
> > > > > of the death certificate and her valid identification forms and
>they
> > > >were
> > > > > unable to locate a matching document for him. They tried searching
> >on
> > > > > different dates, different spellings of the name, counties and so
> > > forth
> > > > > with
> > > > > no success. They recommended that we contact the county directly;
> > > which
> > > >I
> > > > > was able to do, and sadly, no luck. At this point, we have
>exceeded
> >my
> > > > > genealogical expertise with the state of Colorado.
> > > > >
> > > > > My mother recalls that my grandfather's father tried to leave him
> > > > > something
> > > > > in his will when he passed away in late 1976. It is my
>understanding
> > > >that
> > > > > when a person creates a will that a copy of it is filed with the
> > > > > county/state. What is the correct way in obtaining this kind of
> > > > > information?
> > > > > Would it be filed with the county or state?
> > > > >
> > > > > Traveling deep in genealogical waters...
> > > > >
> > > > > Kristina Corey Fuiks
> > > > > kcfuiks(a)hotmail.com
> > > > > Volunteer Coordinator, Otero County Colorado, COGenWeb Project
> > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~cootero/
> > > > >
> > > > > "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens
>can
> > > > > change
> > > > > the world." -President Josiah Bartlet, The West Wing
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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I like it so far, although I haven't have much of a chance to play with it yet. I took the class at Front Range last semester using Dreamweaver 8. It looks pretty exciting though, as they are saying that you can take unflattened Photoshop images into Dreamweaver now and somehow use them on your website. It must have a way of flattening and converting them, but they are saying that if you need to edit them later, you can open the files back up in Photoshop and edit the layers. Seeing will be believing. It certainly is pretty tightly integrated into the CS3 programs. Everything is easier to access and use, including InDesign, and the look and feel of all the programs are more uniform.
I paid $589 for the Educational Design Premium version that included, Dreamweaver, Flash, Photoshop-extended, Illustrator and InDesign.
I work for a magazine doing some page layout and ad design, so I really needed the version that had the print programs in it, as well as Dreamweaver. In another week, I'll be deep into the last two weeks of deadlines for our latest issue so won't be around much.
I have to say that although most people turn their noses up at FrontPage (I think it is as much an elitist thing as anything, akin to Mac's verses PC's LOL!) I have used that program since version 1.0. I really liked it, especially if I wanted to put something up quick and dirty and still have it look nice. I miss the dynamic hyperlink options in FP, and shared borders in Dreamweaver are a nightmare (at least for me) to try to figure out. FrontPage makes it simple. Dreamweaver has been a real challenge for me, and not one that I, for the most part have enjoyed. Still working with CSS files are much easier in Dreamweaver, once you get the concept. I never could figure them out in FP.
I chose to change over to Dreamweaver instead of moving up to Microsoft's new web design version, for several reasons. The main one was that it is the industry standard and several of my web clients only use it. If I want their business, I have to know how to use that program. If I want to attract bigger clients, I have to know that program, and specifically how to write CSS. Dreamweaver makes that a lot easier than FP ever did. The other main reason is that it comes with the Adobe package of programs I need to use for my business. Front Page hasn't been included in most versions of Office now for at least two versions, maybe more.
By the way, how do you like Metro State? I am thinking on transferring over there next fall to complete my BA in Non-Profit Admin. I graduate from Front Range in May with my two year degree in graphic design.
Pauli
----- Original Message -----
From: Kristina Corey Fuiks<mailto:kcfuiks@hotmail.com>
To: COGEN-L(a)rootsweb.com<mailto:COGEN-L@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: [COGEN] FrontPage
Is Dreamweaver CS3 the latest and greatest? I learned waaaaaaay back on
Dreamweaver 3 and now use Dreamweaver MX 2004. (I'm not on Vista.) How is
it? I thought about getting a copy since I am still a student with Metro
State, but wasn't sure if it was worth it.
Kristina Corey Fuiks
kcfuiks(a)hotmail.com<mailto:kcfuiks@hotmail.com>
Volunteer Coordinator, Otero County Colorado, COGenWeb Project
http://www.rootsweb.com/~cootero/<http://www.rootsweb.com/~cootero/>
"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change
the world." -President Josiah Bartlet, The West Wing
>From: "Polly Anna" <myauntpolly(a)msn.com<mailto:myauntpolly@msn.com>>
>Reply-To: cogen(a)rootsweb.com<mailto:cogen@rootsweb.com>
>To: "COGEN-L" <COGEN-L(a)rootsweb.com<mailto:COGEN-L@rootsweb.com>>
>Subject: [COGEN] FrontPage
>Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 21:25:11 -0600
>
>Good News!
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>Microsoft has recently released SP3 for Microsoft Office 2003, which seems
>to have fixed some of the more glaring problems with FrontPage and VISTA.
>Still a few minor annoying issues, but at least FP is usable again for most
>things.
>
>I don't plan on upgrading to one of MS's newer web design programs, I'm
>learning to use Dreamweaver CS3 (its required for my graphic design
>degree), and plan on creating all my future sites with it. Certainly not as
>easy or as intuitive as FP was, but I am starting to beat DW into
>submission - or is it beating me? At this point, it is hard to tell. <G>
>
>Pauli
>Boulder and Weld
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They added my Dad's name later and he was listed as Baby Meyer born
such and such and then they dated it when his name was added.
The Social Security form asks for full name, mailing address, age and
birthdate, place of birth, father's full name and mother's full maiden
name, sex, color or race, business name, have you ever applied before,
date and signature and the SS # is on the form. Mine is just a copy
so I don't know what is written besides instructions on filling out
the form.
It doesn't say anything about a birth certificate but if memor serves
me right it has to be shown at the time of application.
Gail
On 10/5/07, Kristina Corey Fuiks <kcfuiks(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> Quite the little pickle I am in, huh?
>
> I have no doubt that he had a birth certificate, he was registered with the
> military, and he had a Social Security Number. Now, growing up, my mother
> was told that he was the only one of his mother's children that born in a
> hospital, but now I'm not sure what to think since a birth record has not
> appeared.
>
> In the case of your father, he was listed as Baby Meyer. Did the birth
> certificate always say that, or was it amended to have his proper name?
> Would it note somewhere that the name was updated if that was the case?
> We've been trying our search by using the name he had at his death and what
> we believe that his name was and have had no success with either.
>
> Kristina Corey Fuiks
> kcfuiks(a)hotmail.com
> Volunteer Coordinator, Otero County Colorado, COGenWeb Project
> http://www.rootsweb.com/~cootero/
>
> "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change
> the world." -President Josiah Bartlet, The West Wing
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Gail Kilgore" <gail.kilgore(a)gmail.com>
> >Reply-To: cogen(a)rootsweb.com
> >To: cogen(a)rootsweb.com
> >Subject: Re: [COGEN] Copies of Wills?
> >Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 19:15:38 -0700
> >
> >Military would have asked and if he had a job he had to show a birth
> >certificate to sign up for a SS card and if he was retired and received a
> >pension then he had a SS card and had a birth certificate.
> >
> >My uncle had a delayed birth certificate and he had to have it to get
> >into the military. My father just needed a first name added to the county
> >records as he was not named when the Dr. filed the report. So male Baby
> >Meyer had to be changed to his given name. Some of these babies were
> >delivered at home with midwives, some with the help of whoever was
> >available.
> >
> >Gail
> >
> >
> >On 10/5/07, Kristina Corey Fuiks <kcfuiks(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > My grandfather was in the military. I was under the impression that the
> > > county would have been able to find the delayed birth certificate based
> >on
> > > the information that they were provided.
> > >
> > > I spoke to a very nice woman named Alice from Otero County and she
> >stated
> > > that if even one piece of information was wrong, that could impact the
> > > results as well. Now I admit that I did not see the local researcher do
> > > the
> > > work, my mother was very convinced that they tried a number of
> > > combinations.
> > > Do you think that we need to tell them that it's a delayed birth
> > > certificate, or should it not matter? Would the military have asked for
> >a
> > > copy to keep, or would the have noted it and given it back?
> > >
> > > Kristina Corey Fuiks
> > > kcfuiks(a)hotmail.com
> > > Volunteer Coordinator, Otero County Colorado, COGenWeb Project
> > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~cootero/
> > >
> > > "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can
> > > change
> > > the world." -President Josiah Bartlet, The West Wing
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Gail Kilgore" <gail.kilgore(a)gmail.com>
> > > >Reply-To: cogen(a)rootsweb.com
> > > >To: cogen(a)rootsweb.com
> > > >Subject: Re: [COGEN] Copies of Wills?
> > > >Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 17:03:00 -0700
> > > >
> > > >More than likely your grandfather didn't have a recorded record of
> >birth.
> > > >That happened a lot of times and usually if one was needed family
> >members
> > > >or
> > > >school teachers verified approx age or something was listed in the
> >family
> > > >Bible.
> > > >
> > > >Was your grandfather in the military? He would have had to have a birth
> > > >certificate if he was and it would have been what they called a delayed
> > > >birth certificate and that could also be the reason you can't find it.
> > > >
> > > >Wills are not always recorded with the county or state. A hand written
> > > >will
> > > >with proper signatures is just a valid as one done by an attorney.
> > > >
> > > >Gail
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >On 10/5/07, Kristina Corey Fuiks <kcfuiks(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Dear Friends;
> > > > >
> > > > > If anyone on this list could provide me with any advice, please feel
> > > >free
> > > > > to
> > > > > contact me.
> > > > >
> > > > > My grandfather was born in Otero County sometime between the years
> > > 1929
> > > >to
> > > > > 1931. He has since passed away and we do not have a copy of his
> >birth
> > > > > certificate. My mother went to the state office here in Denver with
> >a
> > > >copy
> > > > > of the death certificate and her valid identification forms and they
> > > >were
> > > > > unable to locate a matching document for him. They tried searching
> >on
> > > > > different dates, different spellings of the name, counties and so
> > > forth
> > > > > with
> > > > > no success. They recommended that we contact the county directly;
> > > which
> > > >I
> > > > > was able to do, and sadly, no luck. At this point, we have exceeded
> >my
> > > > > genealogical expertise with the state of Colorado.
> > > > >
> > > > > My mother recalls that my grandfather's father tried to leave him
> > > > > something
> > > > > in his will when he passed away in late 1976. It is my understanding
> > > >that
> > > > > when a person creates a will that a copy of it is filed with the
> > > > > county/state. What is the correct way in obtaining this kind of
> > > > > information?
> > > > > Would it be filed with the county or state?
> > > > >
> > > > > Traveling deep in genealogical waters...
> > > > >
> > > > > Kristina Corey Fuiks
> > > > > kcfuiks(a)hotmail.com
> > > > > Volunteer Coordinator, Otero County Colorado, COGenWeb Project
> > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~cootero/
> > > > >
> > > > > "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can
> > > > > change
> > > > > the world." -President Josiah Bartlet, The West Wing
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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Good News!
Microsoft has recently released SP3 for Microsoft Office 2003, which seems to have fixed some of the more glaring problems with FrontPage and VISTA. Still a few minor annoying issues, but at least FP is usable again for most things.
I don't plan on upgrading to one of MS's newer web design programs, I'm learning to use Dreamweaver CS3 (its required for my graphic design degree), and plan on creating all my future sites with it. Certainly not as easy or as intuitive as FP was, but I am starting to beat DW into submission - or is it beating me? At this point, it is hard to tell. <G>
Pauli
Boulder and Weld
My grandfather was in the military. I was under the impression that the
county would have been able to find the delayed birth certificate based on
the information that they were provided.
I spoke to a very nice woman named Alice from Otero County and she stated
that if even one piece of information was wrong, that could impact the
results as well. Now I admit that I did not see the local researcher do the
work, my mother was very convinced that they tried a number of combinations.
Do you think that we need to tell them that it's a delayed birth
certificate, or should it not matter? Would the military have asked for a
copy to keep, or would the have noted it and given it back?
Kristina Corey Fuiks
kcfuiks(a)hotmail.com
Volunteer Coordinator, Otero County Colorado, COGenWeb Project
http://www.rootsweb.com/~cootero/
"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change
the world." -President Josiah Bartlet, The West Wing
>From: "Gail Kilgore" <gail.kilgore(a)gmail.com>
>Reply-To: cogen(a)rootsweb.com
>To: cogen(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: Re: [COGEN] Copies of Wills?
>Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 17:03:00 -0700
>
>More than likely your grandfather didn't have a recorded record of birth.
>That happened a lot of times and usually if one was needed family members
>or
>school teachers verified approx age or something was listed in the family
>Bible.
>
>Was your grandfather in the military? He would have had to have a birth
>certificate if he was and it would have been what they called a delayed
>birth certificate and that could also be the reason you can't find it.
>
>Wills are not always recorded with the county or state. A hand written
>will
>with proper signatures is just a valid as one done by an attorney.
>
>Gail
>
>
>
>
>On 10/5/07, Kristina Corey Fuiks <kcfuiks(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Friends;
> >
> > If anyone on this list could provide me with any advice, please feel
>free
> > to
> > contact me.
> >
> > My grandfather was born in Otero County sometime between the years 1929
>to
> > 1931. He has since passed away and we do not have a copy of his birth
> > certificate. My mother went to the state office here in Denver with a
>copy
> > of the death certificate and her valid identification forms and they
>were
> > unable to locate a matching document for him. They tried searching on
> > different dates, different spellings of the name, counties and so forth
> > with
> > no success. They recommended that we contact the county directly; which
>I
> > was able to do, and sadly, no luck. At this point, we have exceeded my
> > genealogical expertise with the state of Colorado.
> >
> > My mother recalls that my grandfather's father tried to leave him
> > something
> > in his will when he passed away in late 1976. It is my understanding
>that
> > when a person creates a will that a copy of it is filed with the
> > county/state. What is the correct way in obtaining this kind of
> > information?
> > Would it be filed with the county or state?
> >
> > Traveling deep in genealogical waters...
> >
> > Kristina Corey Fuiks
> > kcfuiks(a)hotmail.com
> > Volunteer Coordinator, Otero County Colorado, COGenWeb Project
> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~cootero/
> >
> > "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can
> > change
> > the world." -President Josiah Bartlet, The West Wing
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Well..... I have Clear creek and Gilpin, like I have since ?1997?
I'd be happy to help with bits and pieces of the state site, though I prefer
not to deal with rootsweb.
Don Stanwyck
Don Stanwyck
Jo's Fleece Fields (http://www.fleecefields.com)
10528 344th Ave NE, Carnation, WA 98014
Phone: +1 425-788-8239, +1 888-782-6992
Mobile: +1 303-883-6386
Live Messaging: don(a)stanwyck.com
Email: don(a)stanwyck.com, don(a)fleecefields.com
-----Original Message-----
From: cogen-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:cogen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On
Behalf Of Gail Kilgore
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 3:53 PM
To: cogen(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [COGEN] State Pages
I have Dreamweaver but never figured out how to use it... dah... on my part.
Before with Mary Ann, certain people maintained certain pages of the website
and Sundee does have a life before COGenWeb and I know that she could use a
little help even if she won't ask for it.
I will try again to see if I can download and if Sundee want's to assign
certain parts of the website to members, I will let her do that.
We have a big website and we should just have a webmaster even if USGenWeb
says the SC is suppose to maintain the state pages. Sundee should just have
to worry about telling someone updates rather than starting a
To-Do-List...that gets set aside until later.
I am still trying to figure out who has what counties and feel bad about
asking cause it is stupidity on my part for not knowing or keeping tract
myself.
Thanks to all that replied.
Gail
On 10/5/07, Kristina Corey Fuiks <kcfuiks(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> I would be glad to look into it with her. Does weknow what kind of help
> she
> needs? Is it file uploads, linking or what exactly?
>
> Kristina Corey Fuiks
> kcfuiks(a)hotmail.com
> Volunteer Coordinator, Otero County Colorado, COGenWeb Project
> http://www.rootsweb.com/~cootero/
>
> "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can
> change
> the world." -President Josiah Bartlet, The West Wing
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Gail Kilgore" <gail.kilgore(a)gmail.com>
> >Reply-To: cogen(a)rootsweb.com
> >To: cogen(a)rootsweb.com
> >Subject: [COGEN] State Pages
> >Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 14:15:04 -0700
> >
> >Now I get to ask who wrote the state pages? What were they written with,
> a
> >program or by HTML code manually?
> >
> >Sundee needs help with keeping our state pages updated and I can't help
> her
> >as I can't even get them to download let alone change code.
> >
> >What am I doing and what do I need to do to be able to help Sundee? AND,
> >if
> >someone else wants to help with the state pages I bet Sundee wouldn't
> turn
> >down the offer.
> >
> >Gail
> >
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