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Author: chaunticlear
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Classification: queries
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Message Board Post:
Copy of e-mail sent to Bruce Cockburn:
Hello Bruce,
My maiden name was Peggy Ann Cogburn. I know definitely
that the surname was originally Cockburn because records show
me when my own grandfather changed it to Cogburn.
His name was John Franklin Cockburn, (b) 10/31/1850 Montgomery Co.
AR after the 1850 census was taken. He was the son of Clark Terrell Cockburn
and wife Sarah Carroll Cockburn. His father, C.T. Cockburn died 1856, so on the
1860 census Montgomery Co AR, my grandfather is listed under his mother's household.
I find my grandfather in the 1870 census, Bell Co. TX in Belton, Prec.2 at age 19, single,
could not read or write. That, plus a strong Scots accent might explain why the name was
changed to the phonetic spelling. It might have changed for other reasons...
I have studied (and puzzled) over the relationship, if any, between John Cogburn of Edgefield
Co. S.C. (b) 1745 VA and my old George Cockburn (b)1746 St. Cuthbert's Parish, Edinburgh, the son of
John Cockburn and Margaret Clark who married 1732 in Tranent, Haddingtonshire, East Lothian,
Scotland who settled just across the Savannah River in Franklin Co. GA . That George Cockburn (d) 1834
Franklin Co GA, will (P) Nov/1834. My great grandfather,
Clark Terrell Cockburn was that George's son (b) 1812 Franklin Co GA, and named in George's will as his son, Clark.
I'm sure you are well aware of all the information (and misinformation) about my George #1 and his
descendants.
I had only one brother and two half-brothers, all now deceased. I would gladly pay up to $100 toward
the DNA test for a proven male descendant of Clark Terrell Cockburn/Sarah Carroll.
Regarding Michael Cogburn in VA, father of both John Cogburn of Edgefield SC and Henry of Surry Co NC
and Union Co SC. Here is the only record in Scotland that I've found for a Michael Cockburne:
SCOTTISH RECORD SOCIETY [PUBLICATIONS]
http://archive.org/stream/scottishrecordso02scotuoft/scottishrecordso02sc...
"Cockburne, Michael, wobster in Haddington 6 July 1632
(Anglo-American Encyclopedia/Dictionary: wabster: (Scotch),
a webster' a weaver. "The like o' thae grit (great) men wadna mind the like o'me,
a puir wobster body." --Scott: Rob Roy, ch. xxvi.
It is possible that Michael Cockburne descended from John Cockburne, also a weaver, and his wife,
Sarah Inglis of the late 1500s. I think that John was a brother to Cockburn of Ormiston.
You may post this to rootsweb if you wish, I've not been successful logging on.
I'll be glad to answer questions - but don't wait too long, I'm 79 years old.
Peggy Cogburn Wingfield
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Author: cockburn141
Surnames: Cogburn, Coggburn, Cockburn, Coburn
Classification: queries
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Since 2006 I have been running a Y-DNA testing project that has been investigating the origins of the Cockburn family from the Borders region of Scotland. The project has grown to include not only Cockburns but also some Coburns and two Cogburns. The genetic evidence strongly shows that the two Cogburns are descended from the Scottish Cockburn family (who are in turn descended from the Anglo-Saxon Earls of Dunbar and March). However, much more work is required to tie the earliest American Cogburns back to Cockburn immigrants from Scotland.
In the case of one of the two Cogburns in the project, Y-DNA test results combined with conventional church records have allowed us to extend his pedigree back to the 14th-century Scottish knight, Sir Alexander de Cokburne, Laird of Langton. The second Cogburn in the project is descended from Michael Cockburn/Cogburn (born c1720 in Virginia). The Cockburn link for this Cogburn is also strongly supported by Y-DNA evidence, but the results are unfortunately a bit ambiguous with respect to which branch of the Cockburn family Michael belonged to.
So, I am looking for male Cogburn descendants of both John Cogburn (b. 1745 in Westmoreland Co., VA & d. likely in Edgefield Co., SC) and Henry Cogburn (b. 1749 in VA & d. 1835 in Union Co, SC) who would be willing to participate in the Y-DNA testing project, which already involves over 30 Cogburns, Coburns and Cockburns.
As I mentioned above, the Y-DNA test results of the second male Cogburn (a descendant of Michael Cockburn/Cogburn through his youngest son James Cogburn, d. 1819 in Campbell Co., TN) have unfortunately been a bit ambiguous because of the harmless mutations that have accumulated over time. The results strongly confirm that James, the son of Michael Cockburn/Cogburn (b. c1720 in VA), was indeed genetically a Cockburn. But the results do not clearly allow Michael to be placed into one of the known branches of the Cockburn family back in Scotland. However, James had two older brothers, the John and Henry Cogburn of SC mentioned at the start of this posting.
Just as two or more scratched up prints of the same photo can be combined to recreate a cleaner image of the original photograph, two or more Y-DNA patterns from distant male descendants of the same male ancestor can be combined to recreate a cleaner estimate of the Y-DNA pattern of that ancestor. In the case of Y-DNA, the "scratches" are harmless random mutations in the "junk" DNA of the Y-chromosome, which is passed down from father to son. These mutations are useful as a "clock" to measure the closeness of male relatives within a family. But too many mutations can cause ambiguities.
Once again, I am looking for male descendants of John Cogburn and Henry Cogburn who would agree to participate in the Y-DNA testing project of the Cogburn and Cockburn families. The objective would be to recreate a better estimate of the Y-DNA pattern of Michael Cockburn, who is the common ancestor of many Cogburns living today in SC, TN, FL and many other places in the South and Southwest. The sample collection process takes only a few minutes to do at home using a small kit that would be mailed to your residence. The cost of the kit would be covered by the project testing fund. The privacy of test results would be protected through the use of an anonymous test kit code and a password-protected Internet account. Unwanted medical information is not revealed by Y-DNA testing for genealogical purposes--the tests look at harmless patterns in the "junk DNA" portions of the Y chromosome.
I would be happy to provide additional information concerning this project and the technique of Y-DNA testing when applied to genealogy. In addition, the two Cogburn participants in the project have agreed to provide references if requested. There is an excellent chance that with the help of one or two Cogburn men we will be able to identify where Michael Cockburn/Cogburn fits into the Cockburn family tree back in Scotland.
regards,
Bruce Cockburn (of Edmonton, Canada)
e-mail: cockburn(a)ualberta.ca
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