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Hi folks,
Just wanted to jump in here and offer a suggestion.
Middle names are generally the maiden name of
a female ancestor.
David Rice COFFEY's grandmother is a more likely
avenue of resaerch than a COFFEY with Rice as a
first name. There are always exceptions to these
naming conventions but it was common in the time
period of David.
Even today it is still being used. My middle name is
my paternal grandmother's maiden name.
Personal note: I did not like my middle name until
I found out where it came from when I got into
genealogy. She was the only living grandparent
I had while growing up.
Cal
ISO: Seneca Williamson COFFEY b. 1846, Ringoes NJ
Carole, My Coffee ancestor came to Brooklyn probably in the mid 1860s or a
little later from Cork. One man only , Thomas Coffey, and he died in 1880
leaving his wife and one child, my grandfather. Very little is known about
him, but there is a family story that he came over from Ireland with 2 or 3
brothers and the others did not settle in the New York area. When did yours
arrive in the US? Sue
I found a Rice Coffee married to Elvira Trogden on June 16, 1869 in Grainger
County, TN. I think he is Rice Coffey, son of Meredith Coffey, and a
grandson of John Coffey, who was a son of John Coffey and Jane Graves.
Meredith Coffey's family lived on the south side of the Holston River,
Grainger County, TN and my Benjamin Coffey 1747-4 Jan 1834, also a son of
John Coffey and Jane Graves, and his family lived on the north side of
Clinch Mountain in what is now Hawkins, Grainger, Hancock and Claiborne
Counties, TN.
-----Original Message-----
From: Barbara <babsy(a)neo.rr.com>
To: COFFEY-L(a)rootsweb.com <COFFEY-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: Monday, April 30, 2001 4:00 AM
Subject: Re: [COFFEY] David rice COFFEY
>Carole,
>Please list your Coffee names again. I am interested if I may be in your
>line.
>Thanks.
>Babsy
>
>
Martha,
A friend of mine who is connected to Weightstill Coffey gave
me a family tree and there is a Rice Abner Coffey who was born 24 Dec 1833
in Bedford Co., TN. He died 9 Apr 1896 in Scottsboro, Jackson,Alabama. He
was the son of Benjamin B. Coffey and Mary E. Roach. Looks like there was
another Rice Abner Coffey, b. 4 Oct, 1868 and d. 4 Nov, 1931 They are in
the same family that Spencer mentioned.
I wish my line was connected to this family, but my Coffee/ey's came over
during the Irish Potato Famine. Haven't been able to find anyone in 6
years researching my line.
Carole
>
>>From: "Spencer T. Coffey" <elzorroblanco(a)juno.com>
>>Reply-To: COFFEY-L(a)rootsweb.com
>>To: COFFEY-L(a)rootsweb.com
>>Subject: Re: [COFFEY] David rice COFFEY
>>Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 00:56:17 -0600
>>
>>Sun 29Apr2001
>>Martha, has your research for parents of your David Rice Coffey extended
>>into TN and AL? If not, may I offer a suggestion? David, Henry and John
>>all very common early Coffey names, but "Rice" was a little scarce. Not
>>my line and haven't researched them - but wonder if there could be a
>>connection to earlier generation of Rice and Sally (Bradford) Coffey, of
>>Bedford County, TN. One of their sons John Reid Coffey, born 27Mar1814, a
>>Colonel during the Mexican War, later became a General of Militia of
>>Alabama. General officers of those days usually were written about quite
>>a bit, perhaps the General even has an extensive biography in print
>>somewhere that might provide a lead for you, IF there were a link. Could
>>"Rice" have been a matronymic? It was very common back then, one might
>>say almost a rule, for a surname of an ancestress to be perpetuated as a
>>first or middle name in succeeding generations of her descendants, after
>>her surname was "lost" when she married. Maybe both "Rice"s have a common
>>denominator.
>>Best of luck in your search.
>>Spencer
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>
Thank you Tim for the information. I appreciate your help.
Martha
>From: Tim Stowell <tstowell(a)chattanooga.net>
>Reply-To: COFFEY-L(a)rootsweb.com
>To: COFFEY-L(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: [COFFEY] Family stats 1790
>Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 02:42:10 -0400
>
>A review of 1790 census data shows the following information concerning the
>Coffey surname and variants of that name. This was a review of the 1790
>records of 12 states.
>
>Average family size - 5.5
>Heads of family - 44
>All other members - 200
>
>Heads of household were divided among the states as follows:
>
>ME - 1; MA - 1; NY - 4; PA - 7; MD - 2; VA - 4; NC - 21; SC - 4.
>
>Tim
>
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Thank you Spencer for the information. I have looked at the Rice Coffey
family but not extensively. I am sure I need to go back and take a closer
look. I appreciate your suggestions. Thanks again!
Martha
>From: "Spencer T. Coffey" <elzorroblanco(a)juno.com>
>Reply-To: COFFEY-L(a)rootsweb.com
>To: COFFEY-L(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: Re: [COFFEY] David rice COFFEY
>Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 00:56:17 -0600
>
>Sun 29Apr2001
>Martha, has your research for parents of your David Rice Coffey extended
>into TN and AL? If not, may I offer a suggestion? David, Henry and John
>all very common early Coffey names, but "Rice" was a little scarce. Not
>my line and haven't researched them - but wonder if there could be a
>connection to earlier generation of Rice and Sally (Bradford) Coffey, of
>Bedford County, TN. One of their sons John Reid Coffey, born 27Mar1814, a
>Colonel during the Mexican War, later became a General of Militia of
>Alabama. General officers of those days usually were written about quite
>a bit, perhaps the General even has an extensive biography in print
>somewhere that might provide a lead for you, IF there were a link. Could
>"Rice" have been a matronymic? It was very common back then, one might
>say almost a rule, for a surname of an ancestress to be perpetuated as a
>first or middle name in succeeding generations of her descendants, after
>her surname was "lost" when she married. Maybe both "Rice"s have a common
>denominator.
>Best of luck in your search.
>Spencer
>________________________________________________________________
>GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO!
>Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less!
>Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit:
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>
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A review of 1790 census data shows the following information concerning the
Coffey surname and variants of that name. This was a review of the 1790
records of 12 states.
Average family size - 5.5
Heads of family - 44
All other members - 200
Heads of household were divided among the states as follows:
ME - 1; MA - 1; NY - 4; PA - 7; MD - 2; VA - 4; NC - 21; SC - 4.
Tim
It has been a while since I posted this but would like to try again.
I am looking for Virginia Jane "Jennie" Click who was born abt june 1870 in
cocke Co. Tenn. Her family abandoned her when she had an out of wedlock child
and was sent to either Lawton, Oklahoma or Texas to her brother's (Uncle Buck
- Thomas Jefferson Click who married his first cousin Laura Click 1895
Woodruff Co. Arkansas) to have the child. We don't know if she kept the child
or gave it up. We do know that she married a Mr. Coffey and had at least one
son and another younger child because we have a photo of them, but don't know
where it was taken. It appears it could have been taken either in Oklahoma or
northern Texas. We know that some of the other members of the family lived in
the Grayson and collin County areas of Texas.
Joe Click said his sister Jennie was a pretty blond-haired girl who became
pregnant at about sixteen. (which would have made it about 1886 but we think
it was later.
We think the child may have been born late 1890's or early 1900's.
Then another relative states Mrs. Coffee lived in Texas. She sent pictures of
her family, don't know names of her children.
anyone having information about her please contact me.
thank you.
Carolyn Whitaker
I need help finding my great grandfather ?? COFFEY.
David Rice COFFEY born Blairsville, Ga. 11/5/1861 was one of his sons.
He also had a son named Henry and one named John. He had a daughter
Cordealia " Dealie" who married a SCOGGINS OR SCROGGINS.
David COFFEY married Alice Hannah HAREN on Sept.1, 1887 in
Asheville,Buncombe, NC.
I am trying to find David's father and mother. His father died when he was
young and his mother remarried ?? Patton.
Would be grateful for all the help I can get. I can't find any leads.
Martha
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I would love to find a hit. I need Mary Ann Coffey born April 09, 1820
married to Henry Sellars in 1842 Pulaski County, KY. Don't know what family
she is from. Her family may have been James.
I would appreciate any help
Rosmary.
Great Find Wendy It is always so exciting hearing of the Hits also .
May God Our Father continue to guide and direct your quest to the Past .
Sincerely ,
Evelyn in Texas
I found her! She wed Josephus/Joseph Coffey, the grandson of David Pleasant
Coffey and son of John D. Coffey. Her name in the 1990 Coffey Township
Census White County, ARK, was spelled Ginette.
I have on their children as Rhueben, Maggie, Granvill, and Samuel or Daniel
on the census. Can someone confirm if he is Samuel or Daniel Coffey?
Wendy
It odes happen now and then people marry who have
the same last name but it is not often.
I use Family Treemaker and have used PAF and have
no problems entering names as I suggested.
You can enter names into your program any way you like
just keep in mind that the genealigal world follows certain
guidelines that make it easier for OTHERS to follow your
research who do not have the knowledge of your family
as you.
What is not confusing for you IS confusing to others.
If you have John and Mary Ann COFFEY you will NEVER find
a birth certificate for this Mary COFFEY because her
maiden name is JONES.
By writing it as John COFFEY m. Mary Ann JONES you remove ALL
amibguity The same goes for James COFFEY m. Elizabeth
COFFEY. And William COFFEY m. Nancy Dec 12, 1853
>From this I know that Mary's maiden name is JONES, Elizabeth's
maiden name is COFFEY and Nancy's maiden name is unknown.
I don't get that from:
John and Mary COFFEY
James and Elizabeth COFFEY
William and Nancy COFFEY
If you use the IGI search engine at www.familysearch.org and look
for a marriage between John COFFEY adn Mary COFFEY I
gaurantee you won't find one that matches because it requires
the MAIDEN name when known. You may indeed find a marriage
between a John COFFEY and a Mary COFFEY but it won't be
YOUR John and Mary.
There's enough erronious undocumented genealogical information on the
Internet as it is and the only way we can keep it under control is if we
make sure we don't contribute to the confusion.
Cal
Hi Norma--I do have some info about Alexander Hindman but will have to hunt
it up--one of those things that are stuck in the closet and not put into the
computer yet. I will hunt up what I do have and send it along one of these
days-remind me if I forget!!---Grace
----- Original Message -----
From: "Norma Paul" <npaul(a)nethere.com>
To: <COFFEY-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 8:57 PM
Subject: [COFFEY] Alexander HINDMAN
> Sorry, I don't have any information about your John COFFEY.
>
> I was wondering if you have any information for Alexander, father of Jane
> HINDMAN COFFEY?
>
> 4/24/01 3:31 AM, grace at geejayh(a)psci.net wrote:
>
> > HI-I'm new to the list. I'm looking for information about John -the son
of
> > Jane Hindman and Ananias Coffey. I have him down as the father of my gr
gr
> > grandfather Ananias m.Martha Gray. He disappeared from Ind and seems to
have
> > remarried in Ky later. The time is right but I cannot prove its the same
John.
> > Does anyone have information on him? I would sure appreciate any input
on this
> > one!!!
> > Thanks
> > Grace Coffey Harry from Indiana
> >
> >
>
I disagree with you when one is putting names into a genealogy program, it
does cause problems. We do have some Coffeys that married Coffeys.
-----Original Message-----
From: Herbert Arkin <harkin(a)cfl.rr.com>
To: COFFEY-L(a)rootsweb.com <COFFEY-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: [COFFEY] Just a tip or two
>I find that in the case of John Boyd and Mary Boyd, the least confusing,
>and aid to lookups is to use John Boyd and Mrs. Mary Boyd. Comments?
>
>At 09:25 AM 4/25/01 -0700, you wrote:
>
>>1. When doing genealogical research only maiden names
>>should be used for women when known. If the maiden name
>>is not known then no surname should be used.
>>
>>This reduces confusion and errors in our research.
>>
>>John BOYD and Mary Smith BOYD should be;
>>John BOYD and Mary SMITH.
>>
>>John BOYD and Mary BOYD should be;
>>John BOYD and Mary
>>
>>2. William , John, James, Robert, Mary and Elizabeth
>>are the most common given names of our ancestors.
>>Be sure to include middle names or intitials
>>when known. Some times it is easier to trace these
>>folks through their spouses or a sibling with a less
>>common given name.
>>
>>3. The use of ALLCAPS all the time is not the best way
>>to get information out but using ALLCAPS for surnames
>>is very helpful and if you can make them bold as well all
>>the better. This makes them stand out on the page and
>>easier to find.
>>
>>4. Dates. ALWAYS use an abreviation for the month and
>>all 4 digits for the year.
>>
>>6/12/00 could be;
>>
>>June 12, 1800, 1900, 2000 or
>>
>>6 December, 1800, 1900, 2000
>>
>>Jun 12, 1800 or 6 December, 1900 have no ambiguity.
>>
>>Awrabest,
>>
>>Cal
>>
>>Cal Boyd, Genealogist, House of Boyd Society
>>www.geocities.com/hob311
>>http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~housboyd/welcome.html
>
>
>Herb & Carol Arkin
>Orlando, Florida
>
>Descendants of Richard Wright, Sr. of Rowan County, North Carolina Web
>page: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~herbarkin
>
1. When doing genealogical research only maiden names
should be used for women when known. If the maiden name
is not known then no surname should be used.
This reduces confusion and errors in our research.
John BOYD and Mary Smith BOYD should be;
John BOYD and Mary SMITH.
John BOYD and Mary BOYD should be;
John BOYD and Mary
2. William , John, James, Robert, Mary and Elizabeth
are the most common given names of our ancestors.
Be sure to include middle names or intitials
when known. Some times it is easier to trace these
folks through their spouses or a sibling with a less
common given name.
3. The use of ALLCAPS all the time is not the best way
to get information out but using ALLCAPS for surnames
is very helpful and if you can make them bold as well all
the better. This makes them stand out on the page and
easier to find.
4. Dates. ALWAYS use an abreviation for the month and
all 4 digits for the year.
6/12/00 could be;
June 12, 1800, 1900, 2000 or
6 December, 1800, 1900, 2000
Jun 12, 1800 or 6 December, 1900 have no ambiguity.
Awrabest,
Cal
Cal Boyd, Genealogist, House of Boyd Society
www.geocities.com/hob311http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~housboyd/welcome.html
Sorry, I don't have any information about your John COFFEY.
I was wondering if you have any information for Alexander, father of Jane
HINDMAN COFFEY?
4/24/01 3:31 AM, grace at geejayh(a)psci.net wrote:
> HI-I'm new to the list. I'm looking for information about John -the son of
> Jane Hindman and Ananias Coffey. I have him down as the father of my gr gr
> grandfather Ananias m.Martha Gray. He disappeared from Ind and seems to have
> remarried in Ky later. The time is right but I cannot prove its the same John.
> Does anyone have information on him? I would sure appreciate any input on this
> one!!!
> Thanks
> Grace Coffey Harry from Indiana
>
>
Send a query to our newsletter BCuley(a)aol.com Have you heard about our
Coffey Cousins Convention in Vicksburg, MS on May 4th?
-----Original Message-----
From: Louie4me(a)aol.com <Louie4me(a)aol.com>
To: COFFEY-L(a)rootsweb.com <COFFEY-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: Monday, April 23, 2001 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: [COFFEY] Re: COFFEY-D Digest V01 #12
>In a message dated 4/23/01 2:59:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
CARC39(a)webtv.net
>writes:
>
>
>> Wendy,
>> I am a Coffey/Watson, my Father was born in Hazel N.C. My mother was
>> born in Sevierville Tenn. If you go to Ancestry.com,search ancestry
>> world tree viewer. Go to Rachel Sue Anna Watson that will take you back
>> about 7 gen, in my Watson side of the family.
>> My father was Marion Roscoe Coffey, his parents were Roba P.Coffey &
>> Agnes E.Segal. From the info I have they were 1st cousins.That is where
>> I hit a wall
>> Please let me know what results you find
>> Maybe you have more on the Coffey side than I have been able to find.
>> Pete Coffey
>> Tampa Fla.
>>
>
>Im also related to Coffey Watson. But mine are from Casey ky and mine was
>Cherokee Indians.
>
>With God all things are possible. Wa Do my friends and family. Love Vicki
>Wi gi is Vicki in Cherokee.
>
Have you heard about our Coffey Cousins Convention? Also, send a query to
our newsletter, published by Bonnie Culley. BCuley(a)aol.com
-----Original Message-----
From: grace <geejayh(a)psci.net>
To: COFFEY-L(a)rootsweb.com <COFFEY-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 3:46 AM
Subject: [COFFEY] John Coffey son of Jane and Ananias Coffey
>HI-I'm new to the list. I'm looking for information about John -the son of
Jane Hindman and Ananias Coffey. I have him down as the father of my gr gr
grandfather Ananias m.Martha Gray. He disappeared from Ind and seems to have
remarried in Ky later. The time is right but I cannot prove its the same
John. Does anyone have information on him? I would sure appreciate any input
on this one!!!
> Thanks
> Grace Coffey Harry from Indiana
>