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Does anyone know the lineage of this Coe family?
Ken Akers
http://www.starbanner.com/Obits/obits0127.shtml
Ocala Star-Banner (FL), Jan. 27, 2001
Robert A. Coe, 78
OCALA Robert A. Coe, 78, a retired boilermaker, died
Wednesday, Jan. 24, 2001, at Ocala Regional Medical
Center.
A native of Haskell, N.J., he moved here from Illinois in
1987.
Mr. Coe a veteran of World War II.
Survivors include his wife, Helen Coe, Ocala; sons, Ron
Coe and
Bobby Coe, both of Galesburg, Ill.; stepdaughter, Pamela
Grys,
Sherrard, Ill.; six grandchildren; and one
great-grandchild.
Direct Cremations Inc. of Gainesville provided
information.
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Does anyone know the Coe lineage of this family?
Ken Akers
HTTP://www.zwire.com/news/newsstory.cfm?newsid=1286368&BRD=908&PAG=461
Whidbey News-Times (WA), Jan. 17, 2001
Celeste Delight Strader
Memorial services for Celeste Delight Strader, 78, will
be held Thursday, Jan. 18,
2001, at 3 p.m., at Whidbey Presbyterian Church. Pastor
David Templin will
officiate. Private family graveside services will
precede at Maple Leaf Cemetery.
Visitation for family and friends will be held at
Burley Funeral Chapel today,
Wednesday, Jan. 17, 2001, from 9 a.m. to noon.
Mrs. Strader died at Island Hospital, Anacortes, on
Jan. 15, 2001. She was born
Aug. 21, 1922, in Bend, Ore., to Ernest and Evelyn
(Allinger) Coe. She was raised
in Stevenson where she graduated from Stevenson High
School. At age 16, the
met Daryl Strader, who was attending high school across
the Columbia River in
Oregon. She was married to Daryl R. "Doc" Strader in
Vancouver on Jan. 10,
1945.
Rm. Strader entered the U.S. Navy and Mrs. Strader
followed his career. The
Strader's first arrived at Whidbey Island Naval Air
Station in 1950. They returned in
1953 and with Mr. Strader's retirement in 1960, they
made Oak Harbor their
permanent home. She was a longtime member of Whidbey
Presbyterian Church,
Oak Harbor.
Mrs. Strader is survived by her husband, Daryl Strader,
at the family home Oak
Harbor and by four children and their spouses, Daryla
and Charles Extine of
Renton, Pamela Kennedy of Oak Harbor, Mark and Donna
Strader of Lynnwood,
and Jana Palmer of Oak Harbor. Two sisters, M'Liss
Hathaway of Rochester and
Bernice Howard of Winston, Ore., one brother, Alfred
Coe of Stevenson and seven
grandchildre and four great-grandchildren also survive.
Memorials may be made to the American Lung Association
of the American Heart
Association. Funeral arrangements are under the
direction of Burley Funeral
Chapel.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Carl R Coe" <CarlRCoe(a)compuserve.com>
To: <COE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 3:06 PM
Subject: [COE-L] George W. Bush's Coe Connections
> GEORGE W. BUSH HAS TIES TO THE COE FAMILY
>
> When Daniel Coe settled on Darby Creek near Milford Center, OH, in 1834,
> little did he realize that one day his great-great-great-grandson would be
> a candidate for president of the United States.
>
> George W. Bush's roots run deep in Union County and he has many relatives
> in and around the Marysville and Milford Center areas. He traces his local
> connections back to one of the early settlers of the county, Daniel Coe.
>
> Coe was a well respected farmer who lived near Milford Center on the
> present Darby Coe Road. His farm was about a mile north of town. He is
> credited with building one of Union County's first grist mills, which he
> began on Darby Creek in 1836. He was a staunch Presbyterian and served as
> elder in the church until his death in 1851.
>
> Coe's widow Mary (Gladden) Coe moved into Marysville in 1854, leaving the
> care of the farm to their son Phillip. The Coe family lived by the "plain
> living - high thinking" philosophy that helped make the county what it is
> today.
>
> Daniel Coe was born in Washington County, PA, on March 3, 1801. His father
> Moses Coe was an ensign during the Revolution. The family immigrated from
> Boxford, England, April 10, 1634, when his great-great-great-grandfather
> Robert Coe boarded the ship "Francis" at Epswich Harbor, County Suffolk,
> and sailed for Watertown, Massachusetts.
>
> Robert Coe was a Puritan and came to America seeking religious freedom. He
> could trace his English family back some nine generations to Sir John Coe,
> an English Knight who was a captain in the "White Company," subject of Sir
> Arthur Conan Doyle's novel of the same name. Sir John was knighted by King
> Edward III in 1365 for his valor at the Battle of San Gallo, Italy, May 1,
> 1364.
>
> Former First Lady Barbara Bush is the great-granddaughter of Daniel and
> Mary Coe's daughter Sarah. In 1855 Sarah Coe married John W. Robinson, a
> Marysville area farmer. Barbara's grandfather Judge James E. Robinson of
> Union County served on the Ohio Supreme Court from January 1919 until
> December 1924. Judge Robinson married Lula Flickinger in Marion County,
May
> 31, 1893.
>
> "I was in Marysville back in the '60s," Barbara said recently "and a man
> came up to me and told me he knew my grandfather Robinson."
>
> Her mother Pauline Robinson met her father at Miami University while
> attending school at Oxford, Ohio. Marvin Pierce was quite a man about
> campus at Miami. He lettered in football and baseball while working his
way
> through school and achieving Phi Beta Kappa academic status. In 1968 he
was
> honored as Miami's first "M Man" for being the all around Miami man while
> on campus. He was later president of McCall's Publishing Company at Rye,
> New York, where Barbara was born.
>
> Will a Coe descendant soon be in the White House?
>
> Carl Robert Coe
> Marysville, OH 43040-9012
>
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COES, COEY, KOE.
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>
Looking for information on the families of
Benjamin and Joseph Coe, who resided in
Miami Co., Ohio in the frst decades of
the 1800s. Did they migrate from
Newark, N.J.? Are they connected to
the family of Joseph Jones in any way?
Any help appreciated.
Donna Wolf
Wolfdm35(a)prodigy.net
Here is an obituary that was listed in the Rootsweb Obituary Daily
Times. I don't know the lineage of this family.
Ken Akers
http://209.115.169.85/cgi-bin/db/dbsearch.pl?paper=ottawa&db=obits
Ottawa Citizen (Ontario), Jan. 4, 2001
BECKER
Evelyn "Peggy" (nee Coe) Peacefully on Wednesday,
January 3rd, 2001 at her residence at the age of 82 years. Beloved wife
of the late James Becker. Loving mother of Judy Robinson (Mike), Brian
(Mary) and Steven. Cherished grandmother of Jason, Christopher, Robin,
Amy and Joseph. Friends may call at the Garden Chapel of Tubman Funeral
Homes, 3440 Richmond Road, Nepean (between Bayshore and Baseline Road)
on Friday from 7 to 9 p.m. Funeral Service will be held in the Chapel on
Saturday at 1 p.m. Cremation followed by spring interment at Notre-Dame
Cemetery, Ottawa. In memory of Peggy, donations to a charity of your
choice would be appreciated. Publication Date: 2001-01-04
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Ottawa Citizen (Ontario), Jan. 4, 2001
BECKER
Evelyn "Peggy" (nee Coe) Peacefully on Wednesday, January 3rd, 2001 at
her residence at the age of 82 years. Beloved wife of the late James Becker.
Loving mother of Judy Robinson (Mike), Brian (Mary) and Steven. Cherished
grandmother of Jason, Christopher, Robin, Amy and Joseph. Friends may call
at the Garden Chapel of Tubman Funeral Homes, 3440 Richmond Road, Nepean
(between Bayshore and Baseline Road) on Friday from 7 to 9 p.m. Funeral
Service will be held in the Chapel on Saturday at 1 p.m. Cremation followed
by spring interment at Notre-Dame Cemetery, Ottawa. In memory of Peggy,
donations to a charity of your choice would be appreciated. Publication
Date: 2001-01-04
Hello List,
Does anyone know how far back to Eng (or such) we have to go to find a common ancestor
of the Northern Coe's and the Southern Coe's, or are they not connected at all. Wondering!
Carl do you know?
John Coe
<Coe(a)Worldnet.att.net>.
Loretta,
I am always delighted to hear from. You asked about Frank Coe and his
connection to The Coe Families of Maryland and Virginia. Frank is
descended from Northern Coes and is unrelated to our Southern Coe
families. It might be interesting to point out, however, that Frank Coe
and our new president share common Coe ancestors. President-elect Bush's
ggggg-father Moses Coe and Frank Coe's grandfather Phillip Coe were
brothers, sons of Benjamin and Rachel (Prudden) Coe of Morristown, NJ, and
Washington County, PA.
Frank Coe's ancestors are outlined below:
BENJAMIN FRANKLIN7 COE (Philip6, Philip5, Benjamin4, Joseph3, Benjamin2,
Robert1) was born June 4, 1814, in Marshall County, VA, second child of
Philip and Salome (Ogle) Coe. He lived at Moundsville, VA, and in the
early 1850s moved to a farm near Queen City, MO. Later in life he went to
Farmington, NM, where he died June 28, 1893. Benjamin Coe's father Philip
Coe, who was born September 21, 1784, in Washington County, PA, was the
seventh child of Philip and Abigail (O'Connor) Coe.
He married January 22, 1837, in Marshall County, VA, Annie Kerr, born
October 12, 1814, died May 2, 1899, daughter of Hugh and Mary (Jolly) Kerr.
Children (b. in Marshall County, VA):
1. Lewis W., b. Dec. 8, 1837. Settled on the Ruidoso River in New Mexico.
2. Mahala, b. July 13, 1839.
3. James Austin, b. Jan. 13, 1842. Settled on the Ruidoso River in New
Mexico.
4. Albert M., b. Jan. 28, 1844. Settled on the Ruidoso River in New Mexico.
5. Mary Ellen, b. Jan. 2, 1846.
6. Zubah Jane, b. Mar. 16, 1848.
7. Benjamin Franklin "Frank," b. Oct. 1, 1850. Rode with Billy the Kid
during the Lincoln County War. His son Wilbur Coe wrote the book "Ranch on
the Ruidoso" (Library of Congress, 68-26490).
8. Jasper W., b. Mar. 31, 1852. Settled on the Ruidoso River in New Mexico.
Frank Coe's cousin George Washington Coe, who was born July 13, 1856, at
Brighton, IA, son of Thomas and Margaret Ann (Tracy) Coe, also rode with
Billy the Kid. In 1934 his book "Frontier Fighter" detailing his exploits
with the Kid, was published by the University of New Mexico Press. Many
years ago my father gave me a copy of the wonderfully written book, which
makes for fascinating reading. For further information on the Coes'
exploits with Billy the Kid see Robert M. Utley, "Billy the Kid: A Short
and Violent Life" (Lincoln and London: University of Nebraska Press, 1989).
The above books are available on Amazon.com. "Ranch on the Ruidoso" is
currently out of print.
Carl Robert Coe
Marysville, OH 43040-9012
Ken,
Thank you for the obit. Andrew Haller Coe was from a long line of
Virginians. His great grandfather was Eulas Haller Coe of Conklintown, WV:
352. EULAS HALLER7 COE (James Ernest6 (231), Sarah Emma5, Chambers4,
Jesse3, William2, Francis P.1) was born January 17, 1924, at Boissevain,
VA. After enlisting September 16, 1944, at Huntington, WV, he served in
Germany in the US Air Force during WW II. He was discharged October 31,
1946, at Fort George Meade, MD. Returning to McDowell County, WV, in 1947,
he worked as a coal mine foreman. He stood five feet, nine inches tall,
with blue eyes and brown hair. He lived at Conklintown. He died February 8,
1998, at Anawalt, WV.
He married June 15, 1942, in McDowell County, WV, Pauline Hundley, born
September 9, 1922, daughter of William Harrison and Effie May (Taylor)
Hundley. She is an active member of the Conklintown Church of God.
Children:
1. James William, b. May 4, 1944, at Jenkinjones, WV.
2. Paul Edward, b. Aug. 24, 1947, at Anawalt, WV (grandfather of Andrew
Haller Coe).
3. Judy Kay, b. May 2, 1949, at Tazewell, VA.
4. Lawrence Haller, b. July 14, 1950, at Anawalt, WV.
5. Pamela Lynn, b. April 1, 1955.
6. Kathy Jane, b. April 11, 1956, at Owasso, MI.
7. Tammy Louise, b. Oct. 24, 1959, at Welch, WV.
8. Terry Lee, b. May 6, 1965.
(from "The Coe Families of Maryland and Virginia," p. 934)
Carl Robert Coe
Marysville, OH 43040-9012
Does anyone know the lineage of this Coe family?
Ken Akers
http://www.wvgazette.com/static/Obituaries/2000/obit1216.html
Charleston Gazette (WV), Dec. 16, 2000
Andrew Haller Coe
PETERSTOWN -- Andrew Haller Coe, infant son
of Paul Jr.
and Darlene Wiley Coe of Peterstown, died
Dec. 14, 2000, in
Bluefield Regional Hospital.
Also surviving: maternal grandparents,
Dennis and Stella Wiley
of Rich Creek, Va.; paternal grandparents,
Paul and Patsy Coe
of Anawalt; several aunts and uncles.
Graveside service will be 1 p.m. Sunday in
Sunrise Memorial
Gardens Cemetery, Rich Creek, with the Rev.
Barry D. Harper
officiating. Broyles-Shrewsbury Funeral
Home, Peterstown, is in
charge of arrangements.
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The only info I have is from the book, "Ranch on the Ruidoso," mentioned below, where Wilbur
Coe begins Chapter 1 with The Coes Migrate to New Mexico. Toward the bottom of page 1, 2nd
paragraph he says:
"Frank had been looking forward to this adventure since he was eight years old, when his older
brother Lou joined a wagon train and headed for the new territory. Lou was then eighteen. In
1859 Lou had joined a wagon train going to Independence and took off down the famous Santa Fé
Trail. Heading for new country was in the Coe blood, for the boys' father, Benjamin, had
brought his family in the early fifties from West Virginia to a farm near Queen City,
Missouri. At the time, the elder Coe's family consisted of his wife, Annie Kerr Coe, and five
boys, Lou, Al, Frank, Jasper (nicknamed Jap), and Austin. The three girls, Mahalia, Mary
Ellen, and Zebulah, were born later at Queen City..."
Sorry, I personally don't have any other info. My only connection was through my Grandmother
who unfortunately died a couple of years ago and the tender age of 96.
Good hunting,
Gail
wwalker wrote:
> Does anyone know how Frank Coe fit into the Coe Families of Maryland and
> Virginia? If so, how? I've wondered before.
>
> Thanks for this selection. As you say, it's more detail than usual.
>
> Loreta Coe Walker
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> >Subject: [COE-L] quotes from Frank Coe
> >
> >Dear fellow list members,
> >
> >Here's a little something I recently found that I think you might
> >enjoy. I have quite a few old books and picked this book up at a used
> >book store without glancing inside. Months later when I finally got
> >around to actually looking at it, what do I find but a wonderful section
> >of quotes from Frank Coe as he relays some info about his days with
> >Billy the Kid in New Mexico. My Grandmother, Elsie Hall, used to spend
> >some of her childhood summers on the Coe Ranch in New Mexico with her
> >Uncle George (Frank Coe's brother) and Aunt Phoebe (Brown) Coe.
> >
> >Previous to this I've only seen a sentence or two from Frank Coe--
> >although my Grandmother had a signed copy of Frontier Fighter by George
> >Coe (who lived to be 93), and Ranch on the Ruidoso, The Story of a
> >Pioneer Family in New Mexico, 1871-1968 by Wilbur Coe. This was a
> >special treat for me and hope it will be to others on the Coe list
> >too. I was delighted to read paragraph after paragraph attributed
> >directly to Frank!
> >
> >Happy New Year
> >
> >Gail
> >
> >
> >
> >A Treasury of American Folklore, Stories, Ballads, and Traditions of the
> >People, edited by B. A. Botkin, In Charge of The Archives of American
> >Folk Song of the Library of Congress with a Foreword by Carl Sandburg,
> >Crown Publishers, NY, 1944.
> >
> >Billy the Kid
> >I. The People Remember the Kid
> >Page 93-97
> >(From The Saga of Billy the Kid, by Walter Noble Burns, pp 64-69, 1925,
> >Doubleday, Page & Company, NY)
> >
> >"If you would learn in what affectionate regard the people of New Mexico
> >cherish the memory of Billy the Kid to-day, you have but to
> >journey in leisurely fashion through the Billy the Kid country. Every
> >one will have a story to tell you of his courage, generosity, loyalty,
> >light heartedness, engaging boyishness. More than likely you yourself
> >will fall under the spell of these kindly tales and, before you are
> >aware, find yourself warming with romantic sympathy to the idealized
> >picture of heroic and adventurous youth.
> >
> >"Sit, for instance on one of the benches under the shade trees in the
> >old square at Santa Fé where the wagon caravans used to end
> >their long journey across the plains. Here the rich and poor of this
> >ancient capital of the land of mañana and sunshine come every day
> >to while away an hour and smoke and talk politics. Mention Billy the
> >Kid to some leisurely burgher. Instantly his face will light up; he
> >will cease his tirade against graft and corruption in high places and go
> >off into interminable anecdotes. Yes, Billy the Kid lived here in
> >Santa Fé when he was a boy. Many a time when he was an outlaw with a
> >price on his head, he rode into town and danced all night at
> >the dance hall over on Gallisteo Street. The house is still there; the
> >pink adobe with the blue door and window shutters. Did the
> >police attempt to arrest him? Not much. Those blue-coated fellows
> >valued their hides. Why that boy wasn't afraid of the devil. Say,
> >once over at Anton Chico
> >
> > "Or ask Frank Coe about him. You will find him a white-haired old man
> >now on his fruit ranch in Ruidoso Cañon. He fought in the
> >Lincoln County war by the Kid's side and as he tells his story you may
> >sit in a rocking chair under the cottonwoods while the Ruidoso
> >River sings its pleasant tune just back of the rambling, one-story adobe
> >ranch house.
> >
> > "Billy the Kid, says Coe, "lived with me for a while soon
> >after he came to Lincoln County in the fall of 1877. Just a little
> > before he went to work for Tunstall on the Feliz. No, he didn't
> >work for me. Just lived with me. Riding the chuck line.
> > Didn't have anywhere else special to stay just then. He did a lot
> >of hunting that winter. Billy was a great hunter, and the
> > hills hereabouts were full of wild turkey, deer, and cinnamon
> >bear. Billy could hit a bear's eye so far away I could hardly
> > see the bear.
> > "He was only eighteen years old, as nice-looking a young
> >fellow as you'd care to meet, and certainly mighty pleasant
> > company. Many a night he and I have sat up before a pine-knot fire
> >swapping yarns. Yes, he had killed quite a few men
> > even then, but it didn't seem to weigh on him. None at all.
> >Ghosts, I reckon, never bothered Billy. He was about as
> > cheerful a little hombre as I ever ran across. Not the grim,
> >sullen kind; but full of talk, and it seemed to me he was
> > laughing half his time.
> > "You never saw such shooting as that lad could do. Not a dead
> >shot. I've heard about these dead shots but I never
> > happened to meet one. Billy was the best shot with a six-shooter I
> >ever saw, but he missed sometimes. Jesse Evans,
> > who fought on the Murphy side, used to brag that he was as good a
> >shot as the Kid, but I never thought so, and I knew
> > Jesse and have seen him shoot. Jesse, by the way, used to say,
> >too, that he wasn't afraid of Billy the Kid. Which was
> > just another one of his brags. He was scared to death of the Kid,
> >and once when they met in Lincoln, Billy made him
> > take water and made him like it. Billy used to do a whole lot of
> >practice shooting around the ranch, and had the barn
> > peppered full of holes. I have heard people say they have seen him
> >empty his shooter at a hat tossed about twenty feet
> > into the air and hit it six times before it struck the ground. I
> >won't say he couldn't do it, but I never saw him do it. One of
> > his favorite stunts was to shoot at snowbirds sitting on fence
> >posts along the road as he rode by with his horse at a
> > gallop. Sometimes he would kill half-a-dozen birds one after the
> >other; and then he would miss a few. His average was
> > about one in three. And I'd say that was mighty good shooting.
> > "Billy had had a little schooling, and he could read and write
> >as well as anybody else around here. I never saw him
> > reading any books, but he was a great hand to read newspapers
> >whenever he could get hold of any. He absorbed a lot
> > of education from his newspaper reading. He didn't talk like a
> >backwoodsman. I don't suppose he knew much about the
> > rules of grammar, but he didn't make the common, glaring mistakes
> >of ignorant people. His speech was that of an
> > intelligent and fairly well educated man. He had a clean mind; his
> >conversation was never coarse or vulgar; and while
> > most of the men with whom h associated swore like pirates, he
> >rarely used an oath.
> > "He was a free-hearted, generous boy. He'd give a friend the
> >shirt off his back. His money came easy when it came; but
> > sometimes it didn't come. He was a gambler and like all gamblers,
> >his life was chicken one day and feathers the next, a
> > pocketful of money to-day and broke to-morrow. Monte was his
> >favourite game; he banked the game or bucked it,
> > depending on his finances. He was as slick a dealer as ever threw
> >a card, and as a player, he was shrewd, usually lucky,
> > and bet 'em high--the limit on every turn. While he stayed with
> >me, he broke a Mexican monte bank every little while
> > down the cañon at San Patricio. If he happened to lose, he'd take
> >it like a good gambler and, like as not, crack a joke
> > and walk away whistling with his hands rammed in his empty
> >pockets. Losing his money never made him mad. To tell
> > the truth, I never saw Billy the Kid mad in my life, and I knew him
> >several years.
> > "Think what you please, the Kid had a lot of principle. He
> >was about as honest a fellow as I ever knew outside of some
> > loose notions about rustling cattle. This was stealing, of course,
> >but I don't believe it struck him exactly tat way. It didn't
> > seem to have any personal element in it. There the cattle running
> >loose on the plains without any owner in sight or sign of
> > ownership, except the brands, seeming like part of the landscape.
> >Billy, being in his fashion a sort of potentate ruling a
> > large portion of the landscape with is six-shooter, felt, I
> >suppose, like he had a sort of proprietary claim on those cattle,
> > and it didn't seem to him like robbery--not exactly--to run them
> >off and cash in on them at the nearest market. That's at
> > least one way of figuring it out. But as for other lowdown kinds
> >of theft like sticking up a lonely traveler on the highway,
> > or burglarizing a house, or picking pockets, he was just as much
> >above that sort of thing as you or me. I'd have trusted
> > him with the last dollar I had in the world. One thing is certain,
> >he never stole a cent in his life from a friend."
> >
> >
> >The history of Billy the Kid already has been clouded by legend. Less
> >than fifty years after his death, it is not always easy to
> >differentiate fact from myth "
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Does anyone know how Frank Coe fit into the Coe Families of Maryland and
Virginia? If so, how? I've wondered before.
Thanks for this selection. As you say, it's more detail than usual.
Loreta Coe Walker
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>Dear fellow list members,
>
>Here's a little something I recently found that I think you might
>enjoy. I have quite a few old books and picked this book up at a used
>book store without glancing inside. Months later when I finally got
>around to actually looking at it, what do I find but a wonderful section
>of quotes from Frank Coe as he relays some info about his days with
>Billy the Kid in New Mexico. My Grandmother, Elsie Hall, used to spend
>some of her childhood summers on the Coe Ranch in New Mexico with her
>Uncle George (Frank Coe's brother) and Aunt Phoebe (Brown) Coe.
>
>Previous to this I've only seen a sentence or two from Frank Coe--
>although my Grandmother had a signed copy of Frontier Fighter by George
>Coe (who lived to be 93), and Ranch on the Ruidoso, The Story of a
>Pioneer Family in New Mexico, 1871-1968 by Wilbur Coe. This was a
>special treat for me and hope it will be to others on the Coe list
>too. I was delighted to read paragraph after paragraph attributed
>directly to Frank!
>
>Happy New Year
>
>Gail
>
>
>
>A Treasury of American Folklore, Stories, Ballads, and Traditions of the
>People, edited by B. A. Botkin, In Charge of The Archives of American
>Folk Song of the Library of Congress with a Foreword by Carl Sandburg,
>Crown Publishers, NY, 1944.
>
>Billy the Kid
>I. The People Remember the Kid
>Page 93-97
>(From The Saga of Billy the Kid, by Walter Noble Burns, pp 64-69, 1925,
>Doubleday, Page & Company, NY)
>
>"If you would learn in what affectionate regard the people of New Mexico
>cherish the memory of Billy the Kid to-day, you have but to
>journey in leisurely fashion through the Billy the Kid country. Every
>one will have a story to tell you of his courage, generosity, loyalty,
>light heartedness, engaging boyishness. More than likely you yourself
>will fall under the spell of these kindly tales and, before you are
>aware, find yourself warming with romantic sympathy to the idealized
>picture of heroic and adventurous youth.
>
>"Sit, for instance on one of the benches under the shade trees in the
>old square at Santa Fé where the wagon caravans used to end
>their long journey across the plains. Here the rich and poor of this
>ancient capital of the land of mañana and sunshine come every day
>to while away an hour and smoke and talk politics. Mention Billy the
>Kid to some leisurely burgher. Instantly his face will light up; he
>will cease his tirade against graft and corruption in high places and go
>off into interminable anecdotes. Yes, Billy the Kid lived here in
>Santa Fé when he was a boy. Many a time when he was an outlaw with a
>price on his head, he rode into town and danced all night at
>the dance hall over on Gallisteo Street. The house is still there; the
>pink adobe with the blue door and window shutters. Did the
>police attempt to arrest him? Not much. Those blue-coated fellows
>valued their hides. Why that boy wasn't afraid of the devil. Say,
>once over at Anton Chico
>
> "Or ask Frank Coe about him. You will find him a white-haired old man
>now on his fruit ranch in Ruidoso Cañon. He fought in the
>Lincoln County war by the Kid's side and as he tells his story you may
>sit in a rocking chair under the cottonwoods while the Ruidoso
>River sings its pleasant tune just back of the rambling, one-story adobe
>ranch house.
>
> "Billy the Kid, says Coe, "lived with me for a while soon
>after he came to Lincoln County in the fall of 1877. Just a little
> before he went to work for Tunstall on the Feliz. No, he didn't
>work for me. Just lived with me. Riding the chuck line.
> Didn't have anywhere else special to stay just then. He did a lot
>of hunting that winter. Billy was a great hunter, and the
> hills hereabouts were full of wild turkey, deer, and cinnamon
>bear. Billy could hit a bear's eye so far away I could hardly
> see the bear.
> "He was only eighteen years old, as nice-looking a young
>fellow as you'd care to meet, and certainly mighty pleasant
> company. Many a night he and I have sat up before a pine-knot fire
>swapping yarns. Yes, he had killed quite a few men
> even then, but it didn't seem to weigh on him. None at all.
>Ghosts, I reckon, never bothered Billy. He was about as
> cheerful a little hombre as I ever ran across. Not the grim,
>sullen kind; but full of talk, and it seemed to me he was
> laughing half his time.
> "You never saw such shooting as that lad could do. Not a dead
>shot. I've heard about these dead shots but I never
> happened to meet one. Billy was the best shot with a six-shooter I
>ever saw, but he missed sometimes. Jesse Evans,
> who fought on the Murphy side, used to brag that he was as good a
>shot as the Kid, but I never thought so, and I knew
> Jesse and have seen him shoot. Jesse, by the way, used to say,
>too, that he wasn't afraid of Billy the Kid. Which was
> just another one of his brags. He was scared to death of the Kid,
>and once when they met in Lincoln, Billy made him
> take water and made him like it. Billy used to do a whole lot of
>practice shooting around the ranch, and had the barn
> peppered full of holes. I have heard people say they have seen him
>empty his shooter at a hat tossed about twenty feet
> into the air and hit it six times before it struck the ground. I
>won't say he couldn't do it, but I never saw him do it. One of
> his favorite stunts was to shoot at snowbirds sitting on fence
>posts along the road as he rode by with his horse at a
> gallop. Sometimes he would kill half-a-dozen birds one after the
>other; and then he would miss a few. His average was
> about one in three. And I'd say that was mighty good shooting.
> "Billy had had a little schooling, and he could read and write
>as well as anybody else around here. I never saw him
> reading any books, but he was a great hand to read newspapers
>whenever he could get hold of any. He absorbed a lot
> of education from his newspaper reading. He didn't talk like a
>backwoodsman. I don't suppose he knew much about the
> rules of grammar, but he didn't make the common, glaring mistakes
>of ignorant people. His speech was that of an
> intelligent and fairly well educated man. He had a clean mind; his
>conversation was never coarse or vulgar; and while
> most of the men with whom h associated swore like pirates, he
>rarely used an oath.
> "He was a free-hearted, generous boy. He'd give a friend the
>shirt off his back. His money came easy when it came; but
> sometimes it didn't come. He was a gambler and like all gamblers,
>his life was chicken one day and feathers the next, a
> pocketful of money to-day and broke to-morrow. Monte was his
>favourite game; he banked the game or bucked it,
> depending on his finances. He was as slick a dealer as ever threw
>a card, and as a player, he was shrewd, usually lucky,
> and bet 'em high--the limit on every turn. While he stayed with
>me, he broke a Mexican monte bank every little while
> down the cañon at San Patricio. If he happened to lose, he'd take
>it like a good gambler and, like as not, crack a joke
> and walk away whistling with his hands rammed in his empty
>pockets. Losing his money never made him mad. To tell
> the truth, I never saw Billy the Kid mad in my life, and I knew him
>several years.
> "Think what you please, the Kid had a lot of principle. He
>was about as honest a fellow as I ever knew outside of some
> loose notions about rustling cattle. This was stealing, of course,
>but I don't believe it struck him exactly tat way. It didn't
> seem to have any personal element in it. There the cattle running
>loose on the plains without any owner in sight or sign of
> ownership, except the brands, seeming like part of the landscape.
>Billy, being in his fashion a sort of potentate ruling a
> large portion of the landscape with is six-shooter, felt, I
>suppose, like he had a sort of proprietary claim on those cattle,
> and it didn't seem to him like robbery--not exactly--to run them
>off and cash in on them at the nearest market. That's at
> least one way of figuring it out. But as for other lowdown kinds
>of theft like sticking up a lonely traveler on the highway,
> or burglarizing a house, or picking pockets, he was just as much
>above that sort of thing as you or me. I'd have trusted
> him with the last dollar I had in the world. One thing is certain,
>he never stole a cent in his life from a friend."
>
>
>The history of Billy the Kid already has been clouded by legend. Less
>than fifty years after his death, it is not always easy to
>differentiate fact from myth "
Dear fellow list members,
Here's a little something I recently found that I think you might
enjoy. I have quite a few old books and picked this book up at a used
book store without glancing inside. Months later when I finally got
around to actually looking at it, what do I find but a wonderful section
of quotes from Frank Coe as he relays some info about his days with
Billy the Kid in New Mexico. My Grandmother, Elsie Hall, used to spend
some of her childhood summers on the Coe Ranch in New Mexico with her
Uncle George (Frank Coe's brother) and Aunt Phoebe (Brown) Coe.
Previous to this I've only seen a sentence or two from Frank Coe--
although my Grandmother had a signed copy of Frontier Fighter by George
Coe (who lived to be 93), and Ranch on the Ruidoso, The Story of a
Pioneer Family in New Mexico, 1871-1968 by Wilbur Coe. This was a
special treat for me and hope it will be to others on the Coe list
too. I was delighted to read paragraph after paragraph attributed
directly to Frank!
Happy New Year
Gail
A Treasury of American Folklore, Stories, Ballads, and Traditions of the
People, edited by B. A. Botkin, In Charge of The Archives of American
Folk Song of the Library of Congress with a Foreword by Carl Sandburg,
Crown Publishers, NY, 1944.
Billy the Kid
I. The People Remember the Kid
Page 93-97
(From The Saga of Billy the Kid, by Walter Noble Burns, pp 64-69, 1925,
Doubleday, Page & Company, NY)
"If you would learn in what affectionate regard the people of New Mexico
cherish the memory of Billy the Kid to-day, you have but to
journey in leisurely fashion through the Billy the Kid country. Every
one will have a story to tell you of his courage, generosity, loyalty,
light heartedness, engaging boyishness. More than likely you yourself
will fall under the spell of these kindly tales and, before you are
aware, find yourself warming with romantic sympathy to the idealized
picture of heroic and adventurous youth.
"Sit, for instance on one of the benches under the shade trees in the
old square at Santa Fé where the wagon caravans used to end
their long journey across the plains. Here the rich and poor of this
ancient capital of the land of mañana and sunshine come every day
to while away an hour and smoke and talk politics. Mention Billy the
Kid to some leisurely burgher. Instantly his face will light up; he
will cease his tirade against graft and corruption in high places and go
off into interminable anecdotes. Yes, Billy the Kid lived here in
Santa Fé when he was a boy. Many a time when he was an outlaw with a
price on his head, he rode into town and danced all night at
the dance hall over on Gallisteo Street. The house is still there; the
pink adobe with the blue door and window shutters. Did the
police attempt to arrest him? Not much. Those blue-coated fellows
valued their hides. Why that boy wasn't afraid of the devil. Say,
once over at Anton Chico
"Or ask Frank Coe about him. You will find him a white-haired old man
now on his fruit ranch in Ruidoso Cañon. He fought in the
Lincoln County war by the Kid's side and as he tells his story you may
sit in a rocking chair under the cottonwoods while the Ruidoso
River sings its pleasant tune just back of the rambling, one-story adobe
ranch house.
"Billy the Kid, says Coe, "lived with me for a while soon
after he came to Lincoln County in the fall of 1877. Just a little
before he went to work for Tunstall on the Feliz. No, he didn't
work for me. Just lived with me. Riding the chuck line.
Didn't have anywhere else special to stay just then. He did a lot
of hunting that winter. Billy was a great hunter, and the
hills hereabouts were full of wild turkey, deer, and cinnamon
bear. Billy could hit a bear's eye so far away I could hardly
see the bear.
"He was only eighteen years old, as nice-looking a young
fellow as you'd care to meet, and certainly mighty pleasant
company. Many a night he and I have sat up before a pine-knot fire
swapping yarns. Yes, he had killed quite a few men
even then, but it didn't seem to weigh on him. None at all.
Ghosts, I reckon, never bothered Billy. He was about as
cheerful a little hombre as I ever ran across. Not the grim,
sullen kind; but full of talk, and it seemed to me he was
laughing half his time.
"You never saw such shooting as that lad could do. Not a dead
shot. I've heard about these dead shots but I never
happened to meet one. Billy was the best shot with a six-shooter I
ever saw, but he missed sometimes. Jesse Evans,
who fought on the Murphy side, used to brag that he was as good a
shot as the Kid, but I never thought so, and I knew
Jesse and have seen him shoot. Jesse, by the way, used to say,
too, that he wasn't afraid of Billy the Kid. Which was
just another one of his brags. He was scared to death of the Kid,
and once when they met in Lincoln, Billy made him
take water and made him like it. Billy used to do a whole lot of
practice shooting around the ranch, and had the barn
peppered full of holes. I have heard people say they have seen him
empty his shooter at a hat tossed about twenty feet
into the air and hit it six times before it struck the ground. I
won't say he couldn't do it, but I never saw him do it. One of
his favorite stunts was to shoot at snowbirds sitting on fence
posts along the road as he rode by with his horse at a
gallop. Sometimes he would kill half-a-dozen birds one after the
other; and then he would miss a few. His average was
about one in three. And I'd say that was mighty good shooting.
"Billy had had a little schooling, and he could read and write
as well as anybody else around here. I never saw him
reading any books, but he was a great hand to read newspapers
whenever he could get hold of any. He absorbed a lot
of education from his newspaper reading. He didn't talk like a
backwoodsman. I don't suppose he knew much about the
rules of grammar, but he didn't make the common, glaring mistakes
of ignorant people. His speech was that of an
intelligent and fairly well educated man. He had a clean mind; his
conversation was never coarse or vulgar; and while
most of the men with whom h associated swore like pirates, he
rarely used an oath.
"He was a free-hearted, generous boy. He'd give a friend the
shirt off his back. His money came easy when it came; but
sometimes it didn't come. He was a gambler and like all gamblers,
his life was chicken one day and feathers the next, a
pocketful of money to-day and broke to-morrow. Monte was his
favourite game; he banked the game or bucked it,
depending on his finances. He was as slick a dealer as ever threw
a card, and as a player, he was shrewd, usually lucky,
and bet 'em high--the limit on every turn. While he stayed with
me, he broke a Mexican monte bank every little while
down the cañon at San Patricio. If he happened to lose, he'd take
it like a good gambler and, like as not, crack a joke
and walk away whistling with his hands rammed in his empty
pockets. Losing his money never made him mad. To tell
the truth, I never saw Billy the Kid mad in my life, and I knew him
several years.
"Think what you please, the Kid had a lot of principle. He
was about as honest a fellow as I ever knew outside of some
loose notions about rustling cattle. This was stealing, of course,
but I don't believe it struck him exactly tat way. It didn't
seem to have any personal element in it. There the cattle running
loose on the plains without any owner in sight or sign of
ownership, except the brands, seeming like part of the landscape.
Billy, being in his fashion a sort of potentate ruling a
large portion of the landscape with is six-shooter, felt, I
suppose, like he had a sort of proprietary claim on those cattle,
and it didn't seem to him like robbery--not exactly--to run them
off and cash in on them at the nearest market. That's at
least one way of figuring it out. But as for other lowdown kinds
of theft like sticking up a lonely traveler on the highway,
or burglarizing a house, or picking pockets, he was just as much
above that sort of thing as you or me. I'd have trusted
him with the last dollar I had in the world. One thing is certain,
he never stole a cent in his life from a friend."
The history of Billy the Kid already has been clouded by legend. Less
than fifty years after his death, it is not always easy to
differentiate fact from myth "
Hello Josh,
According to the book" Robert Coe Puritan", Capt John Coe(20Aug1625-1693?) With wife
unknown had 7 children.All born Newtown,LI
1 Hon John abt 1657
2 Robert abt 1659
3 Hannah ?
4Mary ?
5 David abt 1665
6 Johnathon abt 1668
7 Samuel abt 1672
Could this be your Hannah? I have no further info but am interested in what you already
have.
John Coe
<Coe(a)Worldnet.att.net>
Jabe1722(a)aol.com wrote:
> Does anybody know who the parents of Hannah Coe b. c1655 Long Island, NY who
> married Ephraim Howell (1655-1748) of Southampton are? Thank you.
>
> Josh Delaney
>
> ==== COE Mailing List ====
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Does anybody know who the parents of Hannah Coe b. c1655 Long Island, NY who
married Ephraim Howell (1655-1748) of Southampton are? Thank you.
Josh Delaney
Does anyone know the lineage of this Coe family?
Ken Akers
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Elmira Star-Gazette (NY)
COE Listed on 12/30/00
Harold L. Of Elmira, NY Age 91, died December 28, 2000
at Chemung County
Nursing Facility, Elmira. A Memorial Service will be
held January 5, 2001 at 1:00
p.m. at Olthof Funeral Home, Inc., 1050 Pennsylvania
Ave., Elmira, NY.
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