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Hello Kris,
As project administrator, I get to see the marker values from participants, so I got the news last night.
In brief, CONGRATULATIONS! you are a certified Stockdale Coddington descendant. People can quibble about the details of how you connect, but that you connect is now beyond doubt.
Your father is identical to the rest of us at all 43 tested markers (save one, whose line experienced an adoption, or name change, or otherwise in the distant past). Below I present a table (c=cousin, r=removed), which I'm sorry I can't make more legible because of the way rootsweb autoformats messages, but it tabulates how closely related each participant is to every other. In short, nobody is closer than a 1/2 6th cousin. Our most recent common ancestor is John 1652, Stockdale's grandson, who was the fellow who moved from Boston to Woodbridge. Two of his sons left progeny, John 1677 and Benjamin 1680. Your line, the MD Coddington brothers, descend from John 1677.
Because all participants are no closer than 6th cousins, we can be pretty sure that Stockdale's y chromosome
_1____2___3___4___5
1. x
2. 7c2r_x
3. 7c1r_7c1r____x
4. 8c1r_1/2 6c1r_8c___x
5. 7c___7c2r____7c1r_8c1r_x
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My fathers DNA is done at the lab. I don't know what it all means.
Do you want me to send you the files of his results?
In the name of God, amen I Ann Coddington of Piscataway in the county of
Middlesex & State of New Jersey, being weak in body but of sound &
disposing mind & memory, do make & publish this my Last will &
testament; --So [?] first, I give & bequeath unto my son James my cow &
the one [?] which I own; -- Second, I give to my grand-daughter Ann
Codington, daughter of my son Moses Coddington, the feather bed,
boalster of pillows which I now use & commonly lay on with a large rose
blanket; third, I give & bequeath unto my daughter Elizabeth, the
remainder of all my personal estate of what nature so___it may be & in
whose possession it may be, together with all my wearing apparel to her
own use___; & lastly I do ___ly nominate & appoint my son Moses and my
son-in-law Caleb Brokew Joint Executors of this my last will &
testament; signed, sealed, published, pronounced & declared to be my
testament & last will in the presence of the persons who have hereunto
signed their names as witnesses, the twelfth day of February in the year
of our Lord one thousand eight hundred & seven. Signed
_Itrup___
Ann Coddington
Ambrose Cooke
Jacob Vandwanter
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Subject: Will of David Coddington and Ann Stone Coddington
Does anyone have a transcript of the Will of David Coddington who was
married
to Ann Stone Coddington?
Can anyone post the contents of Ann Stone Coddington's will to the list?
Thanks
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Does anyone have a transcript of the Will of David Coddington who was married
to Ann Stone Coddington?
Can anyone post the contents of Ann Stone Coddington's will to the list?
Thanks
Hi,
It only made real sense to me once I'd been through nearly every
extant piece of relevant evidence several times. Once you do that, you
get a feel for how many unknown Coddingtons may still be out there, and,
particularly, how few families in how few places existed prior to 1800.
You are right that several Stones married Coddingtons, but a number of
those were male Stones marrying female Coddingtons. Of female Stones
marrying male Coddingtons, there were two: Ann Elizabeth Stone married
Warren R. Coddington ca. 1844, probably in Tompkins Co., and Ann Stone
married David Coddington, ca. 1750. Ann's father was William Stone, and
she left a will and names a number of children which set of names occur
only among those born to Ann and David. David left a will that does the
same. So that connects Ann and David to Moses and his sibs. He mentions
the Staten Island Coddingtons, and there was only one founding family
there--probably, in fact, loyalists, as Staten Island was a british
stronghold, thought the latter has not been shown. Another clue--says
his mother died 7th March last, therefore 1807, and the date of her will
was Feb. 12 1807, and probate 2 Apr 1807--how many Ann Coddingtons were
available to die just then in Piscataway? Only one.
Then there is the weakness of the alternative. John Insley admitted he
made up his William out of whole cloth--he needed an intermediate
generation to make the birth dates work--in any case he never published
those ideas and maybe that was why--and then it turns out, on account of
a letter he never saw, that the whole exercise was unnecessary.
Probably genealogists dread this. They strive to come up with
plausible theories to account for the facts, and then along comes a fact
that blows up everything.
Anyway, it's a web of facts that collectively point to one
explanation, absent, of course, somebody finding yet another new fact
that blows this theory sky high. But, at the moment, I think this what
one might call the working hypothesis.
Jonathan
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Subject: Re: CODDINGTON-D Digest V06 #9
This is the part that leaves me behind. Yes, I can see that Moses'
brother's
and sisters.are listed, at least the ones that were living. But how do
we jump
to the parents are David and Ann Stone Coddington? Where in the letter
does
it state that Moses' father was David. The only tie is the "William
Stone
after his great grandfather." That is assuming that only one Stone
married one
Coddington. Is there any other proof that these 11 children (only 8
named) are
children of David Coddington? Any baptismal records?
In a message dated 3/19/2006 4:00:30 PM Central Standard Time,
CODDINGTON-D-request(a)rootsweb.com writes:
>
> This is proved by Moses Coddington's 1807 letter to William Robeson,
> husband of Ann Coddington, his niece (presumably Ann could not read).
He
> identifies all of the above as his brothers, and therefore as sons of
David Coddington
> 1727 and Ann Stone, NOT the hypothetical William invented as a son of
> Benjamin 1708 by John Insley Coddington. Most on-line databases have
it as JIC
> supposed.
> David 1727 is a son of John 1706 son of John 1677. I reproduce Moses'
> letter below.
> Jonathan
>
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This is the part that leaves me behind. Yes, I can see that Moses' brother's
and sisters.are listed, at least the ones that were living. But how do we jump
to the parents are David and Ann Stone Coddington? Where in the letter does
it state that Moses' father was David. The only tie is the "William Stone
after his great grandfather." That is assuming that only one Stone married one
Coddington. Is there any other proof that these 11 children (only 8 named) are
children of David Coddington? Any baptismal records?
In a message dated 3/19/2006 4:00:30 PM Central Standard Time,
CODDINGTON-D-request(a)rootsweb.com writes:
>
> This is proved by Moses Coddington's 1807 letter to William Robeson,
> husband of Ann Coddington, his niece (presumably Ann could not read). He
> identifies all of the above as his brothers, and therefore as sons of David Coddington
> 1727 and Ann Stone, NOT the hypothetical William invented as a son of
> Benjamin 1708 by John Insley Coddington. Most on-line databases have it as JIC
> supposed.
> David 1727 is a son of John 1706 son of John 1677. I reproduce Moses'
> letter below.
> Jonathan
>
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Thank you thank you thank you thankyou thankyou. this will help so much you have know ideaGod bless you all that helped. hopefully this will bring us together
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Here is what I have on her descendents. I have the census records, and my cousin had her church records.
Generation No. 1
1. Gertrude-Gertje (Gitty)1 Coddington was born Abt. 1799 in Rochester, N.Y. She married Stephen Gray, son of unknown Gray. He was born Abt. 1798 in Rochester, N.Y., and died Abt. 1855.
Children of Gertrude-Gertje Coddington and Stephen Gray are:
+ 2 i. Isaac Newton2 Gray, born 30 March 1823 in Hurley, Ulster Co. N.Y.; died 17 October 1904 in Buried:Woodstock, NY Cemetery.
+ 3 ii. Elting F. Gray, born 14 February 1820 in Marbletown, Ulster, N.Y.; died Unknown.
4 iii. Sirus Gray, born 1822 in Marbletown, Ulster, N.Y.; died Unknown.
Generation No. 2
2. Isaac Newton2 Gray (Gertrude (Gitty)1 Coddington) was born 30 March 1823 in Hurley, Ulster Co. N.Y., and died 17 October 1904 in Buried:Woodstock, NY Cemetery. He married Mary Lovinah Delong 22 August 1859, daughter of Simeon Delong and Phoebe. She was born 02 May 1839 in Hurley, Ulster Co. N.Y., and died 15 March 1912 in Buried:Woodstock, NY Cemetery.
Children of Isaac Gray and Mary Delong are:
+ 5 i. Wallace3 Gray, born 15 October 1865 in Glenford, N.Y.; died 31 January 1939 in Kingston, N.Y. Buried: Woodstock Cemetery 3 Feb. 1939.
6 ii. Luther Gray, born 05 December 1860 in Hurley, Ulster Co. N.Y.; died 22 July 1864.
7 iii. Alice Gray, born 15 May 1870 in Hurley, Ulster Co. N.Y.; died 07 January 1939. She married Lucas Stouttenberg; born 1887; died Unknown.
3. Elting F.2 Gray (Gertrude (Gitty)1 Coddington) was born 14 February 1820 in Marbletown, Ulster, N.Y., and died Unknown. He married Ann Le Fever October 1841. She was born 12 December 1817, and died 14 December 1881.
Children of Elting Gray and Ann Le Fever are:
8 i. Sarah E.3 Gray, born 14 July 1843 in Woodstock, NY; died Unknown.
9 ii. Edgar S. Gray, born 14 December 1845 in Woodstock, NY; died Unknown.
10 iii. Cassius C. Gray, born 14 April 1849; died 03 December 1888.
11 iv. Gitty C. Gray, born 10 September 1855; died Unknown.
12 v. Charles H. B. Gray, born 04 December 1859; died Unknown.
Generation No. 3
5. Wallace3 Gray (Isaac Newton2, Gertrude (Gitty)1 Coddington) was born 15 October 1865 in Glenford, N.Y., and died 31 January 1939 in Kingston, N.Y. Buried: Woodstock Cemetery 3 Feb. 1939. He married Margaret Kellerhouse 1887, daughter of Edward Kellerhouse and Mary Pardee. She was born 29 January 1868 in Redhook, Dutchess County N.Y., and died 12 January 1933 in Kingston, N.Y. Buried: Woodstock Cemetery 15 Jan. 1933.
Children of Wallace Gray and Margaret Kellerhouse are:
13 i. Edgar S.4 Gray, born 27 April 1894 in Glenford,Ulster, N.Y.; died 25 August 1962 in buried:Woodstock, NY Cemetery. He married Florence Belle Wentworth 11 May 1914; born 20 March 1896; died 22 April 1976 in Kingston City Hospital, Kingston, N.Y..
14 ii. Blanche Gray, born 14 December 1895; died 18 October 1896.
15 iii. George Gray, born 22 August 1899 in Glenford, N.Y.; died 17 April 1957. He married Mamie Shultis 04 January 1931; born 18 January 1894; died Unknown.
16 iv. Ronald Gray, born 08 June 1900 in Glenford, N.Y.; died 07 November 1920.
17 v. Arthur Stratton Gray, born 30 December 1901; died March 1984. He married Hazel Moore Private; born Private.
18 vi. Aaron Gray, born 21 May 1904 in Glenford, N.Y.; died 30 June 1985 in Kingston, N.Y. Buried 2 July 1985 Woodstock Cemetery. He married Laura Moore 12 September 1926; born 1904 in Glenford, N.Y.; died 1989 in West Hurley, N.Y..
19 vii. Gilbert Gray, born 12 November 1906 in Glenford, N.Y.; died 24 August 1981. He married Ethel Dohnkon Private; born Private.
20 viii. Beatrice Gray, born 13 February 1912 in Glenford, N.Y.; died 30 December 1938.
21 ix. Elting Francis Gray, born 21 August 1888 in Glenford, N.Y.; died 12 January 1933 in Kingston, N.Y. Buried 19 November 1969. He married Edna Florence Bell 13 April 1921; born 07 September 1901 in Fleishmanns, Delaware Co. NY; died 04 July 1990 in Oklahoma City, Ok.
22 x. Richard Newton Gray, born 14 July 1890 in Glenford, N.Y.; died 20 November 1961. He married Elizabeth A. Cole 21 December 1912; born 1894; died Unknown.
23 xi. Edith Gray, born 12 March 1892; died 29 May 1983. She married Clarence Phillips 06 December 1912; born 31 January 1885; died 02 January 1958.
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Jonathan,
I don't know if it is one and the same. I collect genealogical and historical books for Ulster, Delaware, Greene and Putnam counties. I just noticed her when I was searching and pondering your comments on William. I didn't see her husband's name in your database so I thought I would give you that information.
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The information that I gave you on William Coddington came from a book that I have named Ulster County In The Revolution (A Guide To Those Who Served) by the Ulster County Genealogical Society & Kenneth E. Hasbrouck 1977. It lists the other Coddington's that you mentioned. I sent you this William as the dates were different, so I wondered what you thought.
Debbie
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Obviously I haven't spent as much time double-checking the women's records (yet), but I have the name "Gertje Rosenkrans Coddington" sourced by
Zim, Louise Hasbrouck, Marbletown - First Dutch Reformed Chursh Records (Typescript (Woodstock, New York, publ. by author, ca. 1939) , DAR Library, Washington, DC.), vol. 3: 100.
She was pretty good. Ancestry.com's database probably derives from her work (where Gertje is also listed). Merlyn may have thought her a Rosenkrans because she had two given names. But the old records never listed the surname--it was obvious from that of the father, also listed.
This seems to fit with what you say, e.g. John 1765 was baptized at Minisink, and Gertje at Marbletown. What other records do you have for her, and could you tell me about Gray, their children, etc.?
Jonathan
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Debbie,
Could that be Ann Coddington 1774?
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~coddingtons/2299.htm
She has a rock-solid baptism record in New Paltz (Joseph 1730's youngest child), but no marriage record there, and to date, continues to lack a husband. Christopher had no Ann(a)s, nor did Thomas 1712, nor did Benjamin 1730.
Do you have any other records for Ann?
Jonathan
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Thanks for the comments!
Re William, I've assigned that record to William 1744, son of Thomas 1712
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~coddingtons/5912.htm
who with his brothers and maybe his whole family, according to my scenario (and JIC), went north from Woodbridge to Orange/Ulster Col. en mass and served in various militias--ulster, orange. All of these NY militia records are from
Roberts, New York in the Revolution as colony and state (Albany, New York, Unknown, 1904), Vol. 1, and that one in particuar is p. 191-192, which you can see on HeritageQuestOnLine.
Where did you get yours? DAR records are plagued with a lot of shoddy work, say, pre 1980, and, like the internet today, are myth repeated so often it gets to be regarded as fact. Now the DAR is pretty responsible. William left a pretty decent will, in which he mentions mainly brothers and sisters, because I think they had only adopted children, or ones they raised as theirs.
Militia enlistments were supposedly 3 months only (maybe 6?), so they joined various groups as they went along. This theory also positions them in situ for the 1790 census, and is easier than "growing" Enochs, Williams, and Richards from the two known sources of NY Coddingtons, Joseph 1730 and Christopher 1731. Neither of them, even given the speculative sons assigned to the PA part of Christopher's life, ever had a William. The semi-trustworthy Thomas 1712 bible record mentions all these kids, if I remember correctly. Semi-trustworthy because it exists only in DAR records, and veers off to saying that Thomas 1712 was a son of the Thomas Coddington who was sheriff of NYC for a bit, who was of the Gov. William clan and no relation to Stockdale. This fellow did own land in NJ, (as did many colonial bigwigs) but there is no evidence he ever occupied it.
The bible record, therefore, probably consists of accurate later generations, e.g. Jesse 1797 and descendants, but somebody of his generation, if not later, filled in the earlier entries, which is common enough, according to what they thought was true at the time. But I don't know this for a fact. Very different from writing in births, deaths, and marriages as they occurred. Handwriting is usually diagnostic. JIC did, in fact, see this bible, but, interestingly, he only cites data from the later generations, and he never wrote anywhere that I have found what he thought of it in toto.
Anyway, that does it for the William record. I think the Roberts source may be the only thing available here, which is, of course, just a simple list of names in a govt. publication, because the NY state library fire of 1911 supposedly burned up a whole bunch of bounty land warrant applications and such like. So William's original justification for this military service may be lost. I called Albany, actually, to find out about this but the fellow didn't seem too sure--as if they have some original records and not others, and nobody knows which are lost and which not.
If some here knows the truth of the matter, would love to hear it.
Jonathan
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Another Coddington that I did not see on your page is:
Anna Coddington (sometimes entered as Codington)married to John Donaldson who had their children baptized at the Low Dutch Church Of Klyn Esopus, Ulster Park, N.Y.
Children of Anna Coddington and John Donaldson are: Mary Born 4.30.1801, Abr'm Born 9.15.1802, Jacob and Joseph Born 6.10.1804, Samuel 2.11.1806, and Catherine Born 5.30.1807.
Hope this adds information to your files.
Debbie
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Well that is the one that I believe is my Gertje (Gitty )Coddington Gray, but Merlyn told me that he believed she was married to a Rosekrans. I have her born in Rochester, and living in Marbletown and West Hurley, Ulster County, NY. Can you help me prove or disprove this Gertje.
I also found this record. Maybe you already have it. I didn't see this William listed on your Coddington page. Maybe it will help with the confusion on the William's. Ulster County In The Revolution: William Coddington 2nd Ulster, 8th Co. Rank-Private, Born 7-11-1754, Died 1839, Married Mary Vincent (DAR-141).
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Hi,
I might have some information for you.
This is what I found:
Clent Coddington, born Jan.29, 1962
Texas Birth Index, 1903-1997 Record
parents :
Chavez,Amelia and Westley Coddington
Texas Marriage Collection, 1814-1909 and 1966-2002
Clent Coddington Male Sarah R Munoz 25 Jun 1983 Bexar
Clent Coddington Male Cora A Salazar 19 Oct 1985 Bexar
Clent Coddington Male Maria G Vallejo 14 Jul 1988 Bexar
Clent Coddington Male Maria I Rodriguez 16 Jan 1993 Hidalgo
U.S. Public Records Index
Through the process of deduction:
The last marriage to Maria...
Name: Maria I Coddington
Birth Date: 24 Jan 1963
Street Address: 1105 North 3Rd St
City: McAllen
County: Hidalgo
State: Texas
Zip Code: 78501
Phone Number: 956
Household Members: Name Est. Age Birth Year
Clint Coddington abt 1961
Maria I Coddington 43 1963
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Oh dear...
Genealogy is not likely to help on this one. Too recent. The 1930 census recorded no Coddingtons from San Antonio. A PI might be more appropriate. But if you supplied YOUR birthplace, that would help.
Jonathan