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Hi Jane,
I've now located my ancestor William Thomas Cockshott in 1861 at Bolton-by-Bowland - age 15 - a farm servant at 1 Rayhead, (thru' 1861on-line' tho' he is listed as William J). REF:RG09 Piece 3083 Folio 71 Page 14
William's father John Cockshott gave his birthplace as 'Bolton' on the 1851 census, Barnoldswick on the 1891 census and Colne on '61,'71,&''81 census. I'd be interested to hear from anyone else who has a link to 'Cockshott's' in those areas.
Regards,
Denise.
Source: ENG-LIVERPOOL-L(a)rootsweb.com from Caryl
Subject: [ENG-LIV] Liverpool Mercury:Council of Liverpool
Nepotism in Liverpool Council!
Came across a list in the Liverpool Mercury Friday November 22nd 1833
It is part of a case that was going on at the time dealing with bribery at
elections
One section of these long proceedings is called "family connections" and
deals with the family connections of each of the Liverpool Council members
A list was read out to the court:
This is part of the article:
Mr BOLTON observed that something has been said to him about the general
relationship existing between members of the Common Council. A document had
since been put into his hands on the subject: he believed it to be correct
at
the main
Mr BOLTON then read the following genealogical tree* of the Common Council
of
Liverpool
(*please note that this is what was written in the paper at that time, like
anything else it should be taken with a pinch of salt until the information
is proven from original sources)
T denotes Tory, W whig, D member of the Dock Commitee
T 1. Alderman George CASE F (father of the council) father of John Dean CASE
(No 14) the town treasurer, also father of the Rev James CASE, late lecturer
of St George's, now an annuitant of the Council
T 2. Alderman Peter Whitfield BRANCKER, father of Alderman Sir Thomas
BRANCKER (no 23) brother-in-law of Alderman Sir John TOBIN
T 3 Alderman Thomas MOLYNEUX Father of Anthony MOLYNEUX (No 29)
His nephew James MOLYNEUX is the brother-in-law of the two Aldermen BOURNE
(No 5 and 20)
T 4 Samuel STANIFORTH brother-in-law of John Dean CASE (no 14) and
cousin-in-law to Thomas LITTLEDALE (No 18)
T 5 Alderman John BOURNE brother of Alderman Peter BOURNE (no 20), father of
Cornelius BOURNE, soliciter to the Dock Trustees
T 6 Alderman Thomas CASE, cousin to Richard HOUGHTON (no 28)
T 7 Thomas CORRIE reciever of Town dues, No direct family connection in the
council
T 8 Alderman John WRIGHT nephew of the late Alderman John SHAW (who
introduced him) and brother-in-law of the late Alderman WM NICHOLSON
W 9 Alderman Charles LAWRENCE (his freedom was given by the council)
His son married a sister of William EARLE Jun (No 16) another of his sons is
a minister of St Luke's, in the gift of the council
T 10 Alderman Nicholas ROBINSON, father of the Rev Nicholas ROBINSON,
minister of St Martin's, in the gift of the council
T 11 Alderman George DRINKWATER son of the late Alderman James DRINKWATER,
brother-in-law of Alderman Peter BOURNE (no 20)
T 12 Alderman Richard LEYLAND, nephew of the late Alderman Thomas LEYLAND,
who introduced him
T 13 William Wallace CURRIE. No family connection in the council
T 14 John Dean CASE, treasurer, son of Alderman George CASE (No 1),
brother-in-law of Alderman STANIFORTH
T 15 Isaac Oldham BOLD, nephew-in-law of Alderman George CASE (No 1)
T 16 William EARLE, Jun, son of the late Alderman Thomas EARLE His sister
married a son of Alderman LAWRENCE (no 9)
T 17 Alderman Sir John TOBIN, (made free by the late Alderman John B
ASPINALL) father-in-law of James COCKSHOTT (no 39) and uncle of James
ASPINALL (no 36) and of Sir Thomas BRANCKER (no 23) also brother-in-law of
Alderman P W BRANCKER
T 18 Alderman Thomas LITTLEDALE, brother-in-law of Anthony MOLYNEUX (no
29),
cousin-in-law of Alderman Samuel STANIFORTH (no 4)
T 19 John Shaw LEIGH, son of the late John LEIGH a councilman,
brother-in-law
of Richard Blundell HOLLINSHEAD (no 32) also related to Thomas SHAW (no 30)
His brother is Lecturer at St George, a gift of the council
T 20 Alderman P BOURNE brother of Alderman John BOURNE (no 5) uncle of
Cornelius BOURNE, the Dock solicitor, brother-in-law of Alderman Sir George
DRINKWATER (no 11)
T 21 James CLARKE (his freedom given by the council on his being appointed
recorder) The Recorder brother of the late John CLARKE, a councilman, and
brother-in-law of the late Alderman John Bridge ASPINALL
T 22 William RIPLEY (his freedom given by the council) brother-in-law of
Richard HOUGHTON (no 28)
T 23 Alderman Sir Thomas BRANCKER, son of Alderman P W BRANCKER (no 2)
nephew
to Alderman Sir John TOBIN (no 17) first cousin to James ASPINALL, (no 36)
and (by marriage) to James COCKSHOTT (no 39)
T 24 Henry MOSS, no family connections on the council
T 25 Alderman Thomas Colley PORTER, (he is very recently dead and his place
in the council is not supplied. His freedom was given by the council. His
daughter married a son of Alderman HORSFALL (no 33)
W 26 John EWART, no family connection in the council
T 27 Samuel THOMPSON, No family connection in the council
T 28 Richard HOUGHTON, brother-in-law of William RIPLEY (no 22)
T 29 Anthony MOLYNEUX, son of Alderman Thomas MOLYNEUX, (no 3)
brother-in-law
of Alderman Thomas LITTLEDALE ( no 18) nephew of the late Alderman William
MOLYNEUX , whose eldest son is brother-in-law of the two Aldermen BOURNE (no
5, 20)
T 30 Thomas SHAW, cousin of John Shaw LEIGH, (no 19) nephew of the late John
LEIGH (a councilman) and of Alderman Dr GERARD (resigned)
T 31 Alderman Samuel SANDBACH, (his freedom was given to him by Alderman J B
HOLLINSHEAD) His son married a niece of Ambrose LACE (no 40)
T 32 Richard B Blundell HOLLINSHEAD brother-in-law of John Shaw LEIGH, (no
19) son of the late Alderman Henry B HOLLINSHEAD, and brother of the late
Alderman Blundell HOLLINSHEAD, cousin of the Rev Thomas BLUNDELL, minister
of
St Anne's, in the gift of the council
T 33 Alderman Charles HORSFALL, )Alderman PORTER gave the freedom to
Alderman
HORSFALL) His daughter married a son of Alderman PORTER
T 34 Thomas FOSTER, Town-clerk son of the late John FOSTER (who ws surveyor
and architect to the Corporation, also surveyor, Architect and Secretary to
the Dock estate) brother of the present John FOSTER, the Corporation
Surveyor
and of William FOSTER, secretary of the Dock Trustees
W 35 Henry ASTHON, (his freedom given by Alderman ROBINSON) No direct family
connection in the council
T 36 James ASPINALL, nephew of Alderman Sir John TOBIN, (no 17, nephew of
the late Alderman John B ASPINALL, cousin of the Rev James ASPINALL, one of
the ministers of St Luke's in the gift of the council, brother -in-law of
the
Rev Augustus CAMPBELL, one of the rectors of Liverpool, in the gift of the
council
T 37 James CROSBIE, son of the late Alderman CROSBIE cousin to R BB
HOLLINSHEAD (no 32)
T 38 Robert GLADSTONE No family connection in the council
T 39 James COCKSHOTT, son-in-law of Alderman Sir John TOBIN, (no 17) cousin,
by marriage of James ASPINALL (no 36)
W 40 Ambrose LACE, His niece married a son of Alderman SANDBACH (no 31)
T 41 James POWNALL, His grandfather was one of the council and was Mayor of
Liverpool
SUMMARY
The foregoing statement exhibits some of the natural consequences of the
system of self-election. It will be seen that of the 41 members of the
council, 36, or 6-7thsd are on the same side in party politics: 34 are
closely or more distantly connected by family ties with others of the
present
or late members of the council or their officers, though a few of them were
not connected at the time of their elections. 9 have recieved their freedom
by gift,. which by the privilege of exemption from town dues, has increased
the income of some of them by several hundred per annum.Of the 41 there is
not one Dissenter........(this article goes on further)
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A History of Liscard Hall
Until the beginning of the nineteenth century Wallasey was a sparsely
inhabited district, consisting of green fields and lanes with wind-swept
sand dunes and marshlands. Owing to the Industrial Revolution the population
of the manufacturing north of England grew rapidly and by 1831 the
inhabitants of Wallasey numbered 2,737, the increase being partly due to an
influx of Liverpool business men who found it a pleasant residential area.
In 1835 during the reign of William IV Liscard Hall was built by one of
these successful businessmen Sir John Tobin. The piece of land where it
still stands was originally owned by the Prior of Birkenhead, one field
being called Moorhey and another called and another Middle Moorhey. Sir John
bought the land from F.R.Price, Esq., of Bryn-y-pys and the house was
initially called "Moor Heys House".
Sir John Tobin was a member of an influential family in the Isle of Man. He
was born in 1762 to Patrick Tobin and was baptised at Kirk Braddan Church on
30th October 1763. He went to sea at an early age as an apprentice in a
merchant vessel and on his very first voyage was captured by a French
privateer. Fortunately for him his father knew the Master, who released him.
When he became a master mariner in 1793 Britain was still at war with France
and he took command of the privateer Gipsy. In 1797 he became master of the
privateer Molly, which could carry a complement of 436 slaves. As these
ships were both privateers and slavers he spent his years as a master
shipping slaves across the Atlantic and occasionally attacking enemy
vessels. He captured three French ships, each of which carried valuable
cargoes, which included slaves.
In 1789 (note from Jane .. think this should be 1798) he married the
daughter of James Aspinall, a Liverpool merchant and lived at Oak Hill Park
in Old Swan. He had one son John and three daughters.
Preying on enemy shipping made him a rich man and he retired from the sea at
the age of forty to become a merchant in Liverpool, where he continued the
lucrative business of privateering and slaving until it was abolished in
1807. He acquired a fair amount of land in Wallasey. In 1809 he was one of
the promoters of an Act to enclose common wastelands in the area.
As a successful businessman he interested himself in public affairs becoming
Mayor of Liverpool in 1819 and was knighted by George IV at Carlton House on
10th May 1820. It was said that he received this knighthood for having
written a joint letter of condolence on the death of George III and
congratulations on the accession to the throne. (The power of the written
word!)
In 1823 Sir John quarrelled with one of the two Parry brothers, lessees of
Seacombe Ferry. The quarrel came to a personal encounter and was taken to
the courts.
In 1828 he bought land on the banks of Wallasey Pool. On 10th November 1830
he gave 7,000 square yards of this land and £1000 towards the building of
St.John's Church. In return for this gift Sir John was accorded the right of
presentation of the first minister. At the age of 24 his son, Rev.John
Tobin, had been a curate for a few months in Burnley, with little experience
of parochial work, was appointed the first minister. His only obligations
were to conduct a minimum number of services and visit the sick. The pews in
St.John's Church were sold and all seats not let were kept locked.
In 1833 Sir John built Liscard House for his son on what is now Eaton Avenue
and Ferndale Avenue. It was approached along a broad carriage-drive now
occupied by Chatsworth Avenue, entered between classical gateposts known as
Tobin's Gates. Rev. John Tobin was a corpulent man. On one occasion he
crossed the river on a ferryboat, which was crowded with trippers from
Lancashire. As they boarded the rickety gangplanks one of the trippers was
heard to say, "Wait a minute and let that fat chap go first. If it bears
him, it will be safe for us".
Moor Heys House was built in 1835. Now called Liscard Hall the building
still standing is in the neo-classical style, five bays by six bays, with
pillared porch and pediment roof. The site stands high and must have looked
over fine views of the surrounding countryside. Sir John also had a fishing
lodge at the very edge of the river, at a spot called Codling Gap. Opposite
here he moored his yacht, which he used to cross the river in preference to
using the ferryboats. Lady Tobin always kept a telescope in a room at the
Hall, the window of which commanded a view of the river, so that when it was
stormy she could watch the boat crossing, and seeing her husband's safe
arrival, be relieved of her anxiety at the earliest possible moment.
One of their daughters became Mrs James Cockshott; the second became Mrs
Reddie the wife of the Governor of the Isle of Man. The third daughter
Margaret (who had seven other Christian names) married Harold Littledale. Mr
Littledale created the Model Farm in what is now Rullerton Road. To quote
from the History of Wirral by Mortimer, "The model farm of this Gentleman is
unquestionably one of the greatest lions of the day, as is proved by its
being almost daily visited by everyone who takes an interest in
agriculture . There are one hundred stalls for cows, as well ventilated as
Her Majesty's stables at Buckingham Palace . The dairy contains a marble
fountain, which would put to shame those exquisite specimens of national
taste recently erected in Trafalgar Square "
Sir John was the builder and owner of the Great Liverpool 1,150-ton
steamship launched in 1838 and then considered a marvel in naval
architecture, with 461 horse power. He died on 27th February 1851 and is
buried in St.John's churchyard. The tomb can still be seen on the north side
of the church. Captain Scoresby, commander of the arctic whaler Baffin,
after surveying the coast of Greenland, honoured him by naming Cape Tobin
after him.
Liscard Hall was passed down to his son-in-law Harold Littledale, who died
in 1889. His fortunes were adversely affected by speculating on the cotton
market. Harold's son wanted to marry his cousin (Sir John Tobin's
grand-daughter), but as his father objected, he became a recluse at the
Hall. He also died in 1889 and is buried in St.Hilary's graveyard.
After Harold Littledale died the Hall plus grounds were purchased by the
Wallasey Local Board and opened to the public. The grounds became known as
Central Park and were consolidated in 57 acres around the buildings. Since
the Enclosure Act of 1809 there were very few open spaces accessible to the
public so this was the first major acquisition.
The Hall was later developed as the School of Art as part Wallasey College
of Further Education. Between the wars the numbers of students increased
from 23 in 1925 to 27 in 1938. The number of students enrolled dropped
sharply during World War II. The Home Guard HQ shared the accommodation and
some of its members were induced to become students at the school.
The Grade II listed building later became Wirral Metropolitan College then
Serve Wirral Trust.
http://emit.demon.co.uk/walrus/liscardhall.html
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Following up on that passenger list .. William says he is going to his son
W. COCKSHUTT No. 4 Mill, Lonsdale, Rhode Island.
Ann SHARPLES says she is going to her husband E. SHARPLES at the same
address.
Found this on FreeBMD:
Cockshutt, Ann 1902 September Marriages Blackburn Lancashire
Sharples, Thomas Edward 1902 September Marriages Blackburn Lancashire
I had that address already: from an Ellis Island record 14 June 1903 ..
Walter COCKSHUTT going to his uncle George SMITH
So back to Ellis Island:
Now I see Thomas is travelling with Walter !!
First Name: Thomas Edward
Last Name: Sharples
Ethnicity: England
Last Place of Residence: Blackburn
Date of Arrival: June 14, 1903
Age at Arrival: 25 Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Cedric
Port of Departure: Liverpool
Manifest Line Number: 0028
Cheers Jane
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Thanks.
Diane
>From: "Jane Lachs" <jane(a)janelachs.de> Reply-To: COCKSHOTT-L(a)rootsweb.com
>To: COCKSHOTT-L(a)rootsweb.com Subject: [COCKSHOTT] COCKSHUTT SHARPLES Lancs.
>to Rhode Island Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:27:59 +0200
>
>Following up on that passenger list .. William says he is going to his son
>W. COCKSHUTT No. 4 Mill, Lonsdale, Rhode Island.
>
>Ann SHARPLES says she is going to her husband E. SHARPLES at the same
>address.
>
>Found this on FreeBMD:
>
>Cockshutt, Ann 1902 September Marriages Blackburn Lancashire Sharples,
>Thomas Edward 1902 September Marriages Blackburn Lancashire
>
>I had that address already: from an Ellis Island record 14 June 1903 ..
>Walter COCKSHUTT going to his uncle George SMITH
>
>So back to Ellis Island:
>
>Now I see Thomas is travelling with Walter !!
>
>First Name: Thomas Edward Last Name: Sharples Ethnicity: England Last Place
>of Residence: Blackburn Date of Arrival: June 14, 1903 Age at Arrival: 25
> Gender: M Marital Status: M Ship of Travel: Cedric Port of
>Departure: Liverpool Manifest Line Number: 0028
>
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No, the Maud who married George BATE is Maud Ellen ca. 1887 Tyldesley with
Shakerley, Lancs., dau. of William and Catherine nee CLEWORTH.
Still in Lancs in 1891 ... then in Rhode Island in 1900 and 1910.
Cheers Jane
PS
Have you seen the passenger list from 1903 ? I wonder if the Annie SHARPLES
24 years old and 1 month with Albert SHARPLES 2 months is Annie COCKSHUTT.
(COCKSHUTT) William 54, Elizabeth 53, Bertha 11, Maud 7, Nancy 26,
(SHARPLES) Annie, Albert .. listed together !!
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Von: diane whalley [mailto:dwhalleyhome@hotmail.com]
Gesendet: Sonntag, 17. April 2005 16:42
An: jane(a)janelachs.de
Betreff: RE: AW: WorldConnect: Post-em posted COCKSHUTT
Hi
Yes Nancy is Harry's sister - she married John Hesketh and had one
daughter Edith M who in 1930 married Francis J Merewether. She must have
married again as I know her children (2 girls) both lived in California -
she mentions this in her letter of 1962. Her mum was also still alive at
that time.
I can't find anythin on Annie or Maud the two other sisters - I have found
a Muad marrying a George A Bate but have no prove it is my Maud.
Diane
>From: "Jane Lachs" <jane(a)janelachs.de>
>To: <dwhalleyhome(a)hotmail.com>
>CC: "COCKSHOTT-L" <COCKSHOTT-L(a)rootsweb.com>
>Subject: AW: WorldConnect: Post-em posted COCKSHUTT
>Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 16:17:54 +0200
>
>Hi Diane,
>
>Thanks .. I've added this note. Is it the same person ? Did she marry a
>BELCHER later ?
>
>I have this info.
>
>Name: BELCHER, EDITH M
>Social Security #: 026266925
>Sex: FEMALE
>Birth Date: 6 Jan 1908
>Birthplace: RHODE ISLAND
>Death Date: 24 Jun 1993
>Death Place: LOS ANGELES
>Mother's Maiden Name: COCKSHUTT
>Father's Surname: HESKETH
>
>Are her parents John and Nancy HESKETH ? living next door in 1930 ?
>
>Cheers Jane
>
>PS
>Could Nancy HESKETH be Nancy COCKSHUTT ? the sister of your Harry ?
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Hi Diane,
Thanks .. I've added this note. Is it the same person ? Did she marry a
BELCHER later ?
I have this info.
Name: BELCHER, EDITH M
Social Security #: 026266925
Sex: FEMALE
Birth Date: 6 Jan 1908
Birthplace: RHODE ISLAND
Death Date: 24 Jun 1993
Death Place: LOS ANGELES
Mother's Maiden Name: COCKSHUTT
Father's Surname: HESKETH
Are her parents John and Nancy HESKETH ? living next door in 1930 ?
Cheers Jane
PS
Could Nancy HESKETH be Nancy COCKSHUTT ? the sister of your Harry ?
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Von: jane(a)janelachs.de [mailto:jane@janelachs.de]
Gesendet: Sonntag, 17. April 2005 12:44
An: jane(a)janelachs.de
Betreff: WorldConnect: Post-em posted
Database: cockshottlist
Individual: I14273
Link:
http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=cocksho
ttlist&id=I14273
Name: Diane Cockshutt
Email: dwhalleyhome(a)hotmail.com
URL:
URL title:
Note:
Edith M married Francis J Meriweather in 1930 - she was still a Meriweather
in 1962 when she wrote to my grandparents.
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Re this message on another list.......
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Visit www.gale.com on April 10.
Just noticed that there are many COCKSHUTT names when I did a name search and thought I would pass this on to others........
Sorry, I do not have further info if my links do not work.......
Good luck in your search........
Judy in Canada
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Hello Diane
The only siblings I have for Henry born 1842 is Elijah Cockshott born c 1824
William 1835, and Alice born 1836. Elijah is living with his wife Martha
and family next door to his father Elijah and mother Ann in Blacow Street,
Preston in 1851 census. (Martha is a widow on the 1881 census living at
Halliwell, Bolton).
Henry is almost certainly the youngest as there is a big gap between him and
the John you mention. Have you details of any other siblings? I have only
just started researching this family and got Henry's fathers details off his
marriage certificate.
I was interested to hear of the USA connection as I have a group family
photograph taken about 1913 which has Ann Cockshott on (daughter of Henry
Cockshott and Ellen Sharples) which was sent to me some years ago from America but
I can't remember who sent it!
If you have any more details on Henry's father Elijah or anything at all on
this family I would love to hear from you.
Audrey
Henry Cockshott born 1842 Blackburn married Ellen Sharples in Preston.
Son of Elijah Cockshott born c 1797 Lower Darwen, died 1859 on his son's
marriage certificate named as late Elijah Cockshott, beer seller in Preston.
His wife was Ann
Henry and Ellen's daughter Ann born 1863 married John William Wignall in
Preston, my grandfather and grandmother.
Any connections?
Audrey Allen (nee Aspin)
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list.
Surnames: cockshoot
Classification: Query
Message Board URL:
http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/mbexec/msg/5538/yMJ.2ACEB/1.2.4
Message Board Post:
Jaqui
My great grandmother margaret ann jepson married emmanual cockshoot in c1885 in Darwen Lancs. Any connection? (my grandfather John William was born in 1884 before margaret was married but stayed with her parents as an 'adpoted' son)
Dorothy Simpson
He had a wife and 2 infant children, John and Eric. He left property in
London when he died. So must have been born before 1896.
Sue
----- Original Message -----
From: "diane whalley" <dwhalleyhome(a)hotmail.com>
To: <COCKSHOTT-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: [COCKSHOTT] new subscriber
> My Cockshutt's were from Blackburn Lancashire and they too went to USA in
> 1903 to work in a new factory in Rhode Island owned by a relation who had
> left for the US in the 1870's.
>
> Are these related??
>
> In my tree I have another Harry/ Harold who was born in 1896 and was the
son
> of John T and Susannah Cockshutt.
>
> Do you know how old your Harry was when he died??
>
> Diane
>
> >From: "Kathy Bowlin" <kjbowlin(a)earthlink.net>
> >Reply-To: COCKSHOTT-L(a)rootsweb.com
> >To: COCKSHOTT-L(a)rootsweb.com
> >Subject: Re: [COCKSHOTT] new subscriber
> >Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 10:17:05 -0600
> >
> >Do these ledgers mention any next of Kin to Harry? Perhaps heirs names?
> >Was there any mention of relatives living in the USA? If you have no
> >personal interest in the ledgers, and you don't find a relative who wants
> >them within a reasonable period of time, please contact this list again
so
> >that someone in the list can hold these ledgers, rather than having them
> >destroyed. If no one else wants to archive them, I will. I have no
> >connection that I know of to Harry, but a link could turn up in the
future.
> >My Cockshotts were from the Manchester area and came to the USA in 1863.
> >Does anyone have access to the London papers in 1909, who might be able
to
> >look for an obit on this man?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Kathy
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "diane whalley" <dwhalleyhome(a)hotmail.com>
> >To: <COCKSHOTT-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> >Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 9:59 AM
> >Subject: RE: [COCKSHOTT] new subscriber
> >
> >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > I don't think we are the right family. Harry Cockshutt was my great
> > > grandfather and didn't die until 1959.
> > >
> > > Sorry - and good luck in your search.
> > >
> > > Diane
> > >
> > > >From: "sstanwell" <sstanwell(a)btinternet.com>
> > > >Reply-To: COCKSHOTT-L(a)rootsweb.com
> > > >To: COCKSHOTT-L(a)rootsweb.com
> > > >Subject: [COCKSHOTT] new subscriber
> > > >Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:10:12 -0000
> > > >
> > > >To introduce myself:
> > > >I am trying to find out more about Harry Cockshut who died in London
UK
> >in
> > > >1909. The reason is rather unusual - my father died recently and
while
> > > >clearing out his flat I came across some ledgers (large leatherbound
> >and
> > > >handwritten, going from 1909 to 1952) and papers relating to the will
> >and
> > > >the estate of Harry Cockshut and his legacies and trusts. I would
like
> >to
> > > >pass them on to members of his family if possible, but I would want
to
> >be
> > > >sure I had got the right people. I would be grateful for any help or
> > > >advice.
> > > >Sue Stanwell.
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To introduce myself:
I am trying to find out more about Harry Cockshut who died in London UK in 1909. The reason is rather unusual - my father died recently and while clearing out his flat I came across some ledgers (large leatherbound and handwritten, going from 1909 to 1952) and papers relating to the will and the estate of Harry Cockshut and his legacies and trusts. I would like to pass them on to members of his family if possible, but I would want to be sure I had got the right people. I would be grateful for any help or advice.
Sue Stanwell.
Do these ledgers mention any next of Kin to Harry? Perhaps heirs names?
Was there any mention of relatives living in the USA? If you have no
personal interest in the ledgers, and you don't find a relative who wants
them within a reasonable period of time, please contact this list again so
that someone in the list can hold these ledgers, rather than having them
destroyed. If no one else wants to archive them, I will. I have no
connection that I know of to Harry, but a link could turn up in the future.
My Cockshotts were from the Manchester area and came to the USA in 1863.
Does anyone have access to the London papers in 1909, who might be able to
look for an obit on this man?
Thanks,
Kathy
----- Original Message -----
From: "diane whalley" <dwhalleyhome(a)hotmail.com>
To: <COCKSHOTT-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 9:59 AM
Subject: RE: [COCKSHOTT] new subscriber
> Hi
>
> I don't think we are the right family. Harry Cockshutt was my great
> grandfather and didn't die until 1959.
>
> Sorry - and good luck in your search.
>
> Diane
>
> >From: "sstanwell" <sstanwell(a)btinternet.com>
> >Reply-To: COCKSHOTT-L(a)rootsweb.com
> >To: COCKSHOTT-L(a)rootsweb.com
> >Subject: [COCKSHOTT] new subscriber
> >Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:10:12 -0000
> >
> >To introduce myself:
> >I am trying to find out more about Harry Cockshut who died in London UK
in
> >1909. The reason is rather unusual - my father died recently and while
> >clearing out his flat I came across some ledgers (large leatherbound and
> >handwritten, going from 1909 to 1952) and papers relating to the will and
> >the estate of Harry Cockshut and his legacies and trusts. I would like to
> >pass them on to members of his family if possible, but I would want to be
> >sure I had got the right people. I would be grateful for any help or
> >advice.
> >Sue Stanwell.
> >
> >
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My name is Diane Cockshutt from England originally from Lancashire.
My grandfather was Walter Cockshutt son of Harry Cockshutt and Annie
Eastwood.
Harry was the son of William Cockshutt and Elizabeth Holden who moved to the
US in 1903 with their children Maud, Walter and Bertha. Albert joined the
family in 1906.
Harry, John William both stayed in the Uk and I am unsure about Annie and
Nancy.
Williams parents were John Cockshutt (1815) and Ann Haworth.
Can anyone supply any information on these people?
Thanks
Diane
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One of the messages from the list a few days ago made mention of James Tobin
Cockshott.
Although he is not part of our Cockshott family I have collected some
information about him that might be helpful to someone else.
James Tobin Cockshott son of James and Elizabeth was baptised at St. Luke's
Liverpool Lancashire in 1831, he had an elder sister Elizabeth bap St.
Michael's Liverpool in 1830 and a younger brother John Tobin Cockshott bap
1832 also at St. Luke's. (Source BVR)
James Tobin Cockshott married Constancia Browne in 1860 in Victoria
Australia and they had a son, Harold Murray Cockshott born 1861 in Toorak
Victoria Australia. James died in 1867 in Ticehurst Co. Sussex age 36 and
left a Will which was proved for Probate in London.
His widow Constancia died in NSW in 1919 and their son Harold Murray in 1941
in NSW Australia.
(Sources - Australian Vital Records CD, NSW & Victorian BMD, Sydney Morning
Herald and National Probate Index of England.)
Harold Murray as well as being in the legal profession (his mother was the
daughter of the Chief Justice of Victoria) and writing a number of legal
books was a gold prospector in Coolgardie in Western Australia during the
early 1900s.
Carole in Sydney