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Hello Tom,
Maybe you should slow down. I think too much running might cause problems.
Try walking and see of that feels better. <grin>
Hey, Tom, welcome back! It gets interesting when you are with us. We all
missed you.
Bella
kytrace(a)worldnet.att.net writes:
> Hello Gang,
>
> Looks like I am up and run and running. This is just a test message.
> let me know if you get it.
>
> Tom
Well, what was lost is found.
I have no idea why the servers are delivering the old post now but I sent it
on Saturday.
Oh, the mysteries of Internet computing.
BMH
>From a listowner for Wilkinson;
For the past 2 or 3 days there has been a problem on one of the servers at
Rootsweb, the one that handles most of the Lists which I manage. So,
thought I should tell all of you that if you have sent email to one of
these Lists, and it hasn't shown up, maybe you should repost it. Normally,
email is posted within minutes, and it never takes longer than an hour or
so. If you posted Friday or Saturday and haven't seen it yet, it could be
lost.
Regards,
SgtGeorge
George W. Durman
Knoxville, TN
Hello List,
The question of the Revolutionary War service of Simon Cockrell the Baptist
preacher comes up again and again. It is not a simple matter to resolve
because he was never an invalid nor so stricken with poverty that he had to
apply for a pension in his old age. If he did apply the fact that his
service was part of the court records of Montgomery County, Virginia and the
records were collecting dust in an attic for over 150 years before anyone
bothered to look at them. Those clerks never allowed access to them and they
were forgotten. The lists of militia men were a part of those records and to
prove service it would have been necessary to search the records.
These records were not available to the women of the Daughters of the
American Revolution and they would not allow membership on that line for this
reason. So the locating of records proving that our man did serve has fallen
to the recent generations.
This much I have gleaned in my search for the records on Rev. Simon Cockrell.
However there is strong family tradition that he did serve in the
Revolutionary War.
Proving that the Moses Cotterill connected by marriage to Chadwell's Station
history was a matter of locating some land records in the deed books of Lee
County, Virginia. The name spelling change created by David Chadwell,
father-in-law of Moses caused a loss of contact with the descendants of Rev.
Simon Cockrell and the descendants of Moses Cockrell his son.
If you look at www.rootsweb.com and look in Virginia at Russell County you
will enjoy reading the accounts of Emory L. Hamilton on the subject of
Frontier Forts of Southwest Virginia. There you will see the account of
Chadwell Station and Moses Cotterill named as first husband of Barthena
Chadwell.
What of the rest of the Cockrell Family and the involvement in the
Revolutionary War? What of John Cockrell and Simon Cockrell Junior other
sons of Rev. Simon Cockrell? Have they not also served just as well and just
as hard? They did in fact and the accounts are deep within the records of
several county courts in the state of Virginia. Amelia Alley was certainly
the daughter of one of the men in Virginia who served in the Revolutionary
War and survived Moore's Fort. Listed are John Alley, James Alley and Samuel
Alley. When John Cockrell and Amelia Alley named their firstborn son John
was it after the father or the grandfather? Was John Alley the father of
Amelia Alley, honored mother and goodwife of the late John Cockrell? Refer
to the Draper Mss I XX 20 and I XX 24.
The Draper Papers are on microfilm and anything on microfilm can be reviewed
by anyone with access to a public library that has connections to the lending
library system. Well, that and a microfilm reader/copier.
Another fort that is of interest is Duncan's Fort. Here is the property once
owned by Simon Cockrell and record is found in the Washington County Surveys.
The land records themselves and the deed books have long since fallen into
ruin and are not a simple matter to read with no index in existence due to
the ancient nature of the book. What remains is on microfilm and available.
Just do not think it will be simple to locate.
In Augusta County, Virginia Court records is a suit between Cockrell and
Duncan. There was a dispute regarding the valid owner of this parcel. The
Duncan side of the issue being that they had settled there and owned it by
right of settlement. The Cockrell side of the issue being that it had been
purchased from the rightful owner William Herbert and supported by his son
William Herbert Junior having sold it to Simon Cockrell, a Baptist preacher.
The outcome of this court battle was Simon Cockrell was the victor.
We later see that parcel of land sold by Simon Cockrell Senior and his wife
Magdolen to Simon Cockrell Junior and note that it contained an Island. If
you will look at the article by Emory L. Hamilton entitled Robert Elsom
Killed on Clinch River at Gray's Island an account of the court records is
used to expand on this issue. And at the section on Duncan's Fort Gray's
Island is again mentioned.
In the section Scott County Fort Houses is mentioned the William McClain
property containing a 'fish trap" which he sold to Simon Cockrell January 26,
1796. There we see the connection to Powell's Valley that is so important in
family tradition to the descendants of Alexander Cockrell and his wife Sarah
Helm.
In this same area of the web page for Virginia you can find an account of
Moses Cockrell's famous run ahead of Indian Chief Benge. I found all of this
while looking into the part of my ancestry about the Roberts family. There
are two massacres in that family mentioned. James Roberts the single
survivor of a massacre that destroyed his family is one of my proven
ancestors. He was in fact the maternal grandfather of Barksdale S. West,
husband of Nancy Cockrell.
It is interesting to compare the land records from the deed books of Russell
County and of Washington County as well as the land records of Scott County
and Lee County to see the early history of the Cockrell family revealed in
history books about Southwest Virginia.
I hope that you will all look up these findings to add to your own files on
the Cockrell Family.
Thanks for reading this post.
Bella
Am I still subscribed to the list? I just received a copy of a Cockrell
list posting through a query I have as a Rootsweb sponsor however the actual
posting to the list did not hit my mailbox. Just wanted to be sure that I
had not, somehow, been unsubscribed.
Kay Cockrell Kazmir, kkazmir01(a)sprynet.com
The Cockrell Connection
4204-C Duval Rd
Austin, TX 78759-4204
(512) 342-1019
Hello List,
The question of the Revolutionary War service of Simon Cockrell the Baptist
preacher comes up again and again. It is not a simple matter to resolve
because he was never an invalid nor so stricken with poverty that he had to
apply for a pension in his old age. If he did apply the fact that his
service was part of the court records of Montgomery County, Virginia and the
records were collecting dust in an attic for over 150 years before anyone
bothered to look at them. Those clerks never allowed access to them and they
were forgotten. The lists of militia men were a part of those records and to
prove service it would have been necessary to search the records.
These records were not available to the women of the Daughters of the
American Revolution and they would not allow membership on that line for this
reason. So the locating of records proving that our man did serve has fallen
to the recent generations.
This much I have gleaned in my search for the records on Rev. Simon Cockrell.
However there is strong family tradition that he did serve in the
Revolutionary War.
Proving that the Moses Cotterill connected by marriage to Chadwell's Station
history was a matter of locating some land records in the deed books of Lee
County, Virginia. The name spelling change created by David Chadwell,
father-in-law of Moses caused a loss of contact with the descendants of Rev.
Simon Cockrell and the descendants of Moses Cockrell his son.
If you look at www.rootsweb.com and look in Virginia at Russell County you
will enjoy reading the accounts of Emory L. Hamilton on the subject of
Frontier Forts of Southwest Virginia. There you will see the account of
Chadwell Station and Moses Cotterill named as first husband of Barthena
Chadwell.
What of the rest of the Cockrell Family and the involvement in the
Revolutionary War? What of John Cockrell and Simon Cockrell Junior other
sons of Rev. Simon Cockrell? Have they not also served just as well and just
as hard? They did in fact and the accounts are deep within the records of
several county courts in the state of Virginia. Amelia Alley was certainly
the daughter of one of the men in Virginia who served in the Revolutionary
War and survived Moore's Fort. Listed are John Alley, James Alley and Samuel
Alley. When John Cockrell and Amelia Alley named their firstborn son John
was it after the father or the grandfather? Was John Alley the father of
Amelia Alley, honored mother and goodwife of the late John Cockrell? Refer
to the Draper Mss I XX 20 and I XX 24.
The Draper Papers are on microfilm and anything on microfilm can be reviewed
by anyone with access to a public library that has connections to the lending
library system. Well, that and a microfilm reader/copier.
Another fort that is of interest is Duncan's Fort. Here is the property once
owned by Simon Cockrell and record is found in the Washington County Surveys.
The land records themselves and the deed books have long since fallen into
ruin and are not a simple matter to read with no index in existence due to
the ancient nature of the book. What remains is on microfilm and available.
Just do not think it will be simple to locate.
In Augusta County, Virginia Court records is a suit between Cockrell and
Duncan. There was a dispute regarding the valid owner of this parcel. The
Duncan side of the issue being that they had settled there and owned it by
right of settlement. The Cockrell side of the issue being that it had been
purchased from the rightful owner William Herbert and supported by his son
William Herbert Junior having sold it to Simon Cockrell, a Baptist preacher.
The outcome of this court battle was Simon Cockrell was the victor.
We later see that parcel of land sold by Simon Cockrell Senior and his wife
Magdolen to Simon Cockrell Junior and note that it contained an Island. If
you will look at the article by Emory L. Hamilton entitled Robert Elsom
Killed on Clinch River at Gray's Island an account of the court records is
used to expand on this issue. And at the section on Duncan's Fort Gray's
Island is again mentioned.
In the section Scott County Fort Houses is mentioned the William McClain
property containing a 'fish trap" which he sold to Simon Cockrell January 26,
1796. There we see the connection to Powell's Valley that is so important in
family tradition to the descendants of Alexander Cockrell and his wife Sarah
Helm.
In this same area of the web page for Virginia you can find an account of
Moses Cockrell's famous run ahead of Indian Chief Benge. I found all of this
while looking into the part of my ancestry about the Roberts family. There
are two massacres in that family mentioned. James Roberts the single
survivor of a massacre that destroyed his family is one of my proven
ancestors. He was in fact the maternal grandfather of Barksdale S. West,
husband of Nancy Cockrell.
It is interesting to compare the land records from the deed books of Russell
County and of Washington County as well as the land records of Scott County
and Lee County to see the early history of the Cockrell family revealed in
history books about Southwest Virginia.
I hope that you will all look up these findings to add to your own files on
the Cockrell Family.
Thanks for reading this post.
Bella
Hello Jack,
This is good news. Tom has been a great help to us all and we care about
him. I was off line myself for a few weeks due to computer upgrade. That
can be a trial to someone who does not know how to do this.
It takes time to find a good computer guru. I finally did but that was after
I had already used some uninformed help. I had wrong parts in there some
where and it messed me up. Live and learn is all I can so. I consider this
researched.
Best wishes to Tom.
Hope to hear from you all again soon.
Bella
Tom Cockerell called me last evening and ask that I pass on to everyone on
the list his best wishes and that he is now on the mend. His computer is
down and asked that I send a message to Ed Orear to tell him that he will
send the pictures of Curt Jett and Tom White just as soon as he get back on
line.
Have a good day, Jack
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Subject: Fw: Proud to Be An American!
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> Subject: Proud to Be An American!
>
>
> >
> > This comes from a Canadian newspaper. America: The Good Neighbor.
> >
> > Widespread but only partial news coverage was given recently to a
> remarkable
> > editorial broadcast from Toronto by Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian
television
> > commentator. What follows is the full text of his trenchant remarks as
> > printed in the Congressional Record.
> >
> > "This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans as the
most
> > generous and possibly the least appreciated people on all the earth.
> >
> > Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy were lifted
out
> of
> > the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions of dollars and
> > forgave other billions in debts. None of these countries is today
paying
> > even the interest on its remaining debts to the United States.
> >
> > When the franc was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the
Americans
> > who propped it up, and their reward was to be insulted and swindled on
the
> > streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it.
> >
> > When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the United States that
hurries
> in
> > to help. This spring, 59 American communities were flattened by
tornadoes.
> > Nobody helped.
> >
> > The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped billions of dollars into
> > discouraged countries. Now newspapers in those countries are writing
> about
> > the decadent, warmongering Americans.
> >
> > I'd like to see just one of those countries that is gloating over the
> > erosion of the United States dollar build its own airplane. Does any
> other
> > country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet, the
> > Lockheed
> > Tri-Star, or the Douglas 10? If so, why don't they fly them? Why do
all
> > the International lines except Russia fly American Planes?
> >
> > Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or woman on
> the
> > moon?
> >
> > You talk about Japanese technocracy, and you get radios. You talk about
> > German technocracy, and you get automobiles. You talk about American
> > technocracy, and you find men on the moon-not once, but several
> > times-and safely home again.
> >
> > You talk about scandals, and the Americans put theirs right in the store
> > window for everybody to look at. Even their draft-dodgers are not
pursued
> > and hounded. They are here on our streets, and most of them, unless
> > they are breaking Canadian laws, are getting American dollars from ma
and
> pa
> > at home to spend here.
> >
> > When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down
through
> > age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania
> railroad
> > and the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an old caboose.
> > Both are still broke.
> >
> > I can name you 5,000 times when the Americans raced to the help of other
> > people in trouble. Can you name me even one time when someone else
raced
> to
> > the Americans in trouble? I don't think there was outside help even
> during
> > the San Francisco earthquake.
> >
> > Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one Canadian who is damned
> tired
> > of hearing them get kicked around. They will come out of this thing
with
> > their flag high. And when they do, they are entitled to thumb their
nose
> at
> > the lands that are gloating over their present troubles. I hope Canada
is
> > not one of those."
> >
> > Stand proud, Americans.
> >
> >
> > > Terri L. Foster
> > > Information Specialist
> > > EER Systems Inc.
> > > http://www.eertsd.com
> > > 757-766-3850 x201 (phone)
> > > 757-766-3805 (fax)
> > >
> >
>
>
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