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Griffin Cockrell d. 26 Nov 1879 of erisepelas in Clay County, MS. 1880 Mortality Schedule. Did his widow Martha BURCHFIELD COCKRELL remarry? When did she die?
Griffin COCKRELL married 2) Miss Martha BURCHFIELD, in Oktibbeha Co, MS on 20 Dec 1871. Have copy of marriage license and bond. Bond was executed by Giffin COCKRELL and Jepie YOUNG. Children by his second wife were 1) Mary Etta "Ed" b. ca 1873, MS, m. 24 Sep 1892, Clay County, MS, William A HOWARD; 2) William H "Bill" b. ca 1875, d. ca 1943 in Erath Co, TX; 3)James, b. ca. 1877, killed as a child by a run-away horse.
Family tradition says that Mary Etta had a daughter by HOWARD who divorced her because he did not believe it was his, due to having the mumps. She then bore an illegitimate child in MS; left on the train to join a BURCHFIELD relative in TX who had married an APPLEWHITE. She did not get off the train in TX and was never heard from again. Does anyone know what happened to Mary Etta?
In 1870 census Griffin COCKRELL has two CANTRELL children and one SMITHSON child living with him. His daughter Martha, who d. 28 Jul 1868 of yellow fever, supposedly married William T CANTRELL who died Christmas Day, possibly 1868, and is buried in Dexter or Barr Cemetery in Clay County, MS. Did his daughter Milly who d. 28 Sep 1868 of yellow fever marry a SMITHSON?
Census reports list daughters Julia b. ca. 1836 and Sarah b. ca. 1851. Family Bible lists death date of Lalia?/Salia? as 16 Oct 1872. Unsure which daugther this is. Family members think Julia did not die until 1932? Family members also name a daughter Jane and say she married a HAYES. Census reports do not show a daughter Jane. Could she be Mary, b. ca 1839 or Sarah? Neither of these daughters are listed in family info I received. Would greatly appreciate any help on sorting out Griffin's daughters.
Griffin's son Jacob d. 18 Jul 1869, also of yellow fever, in Chickasaw Co, MS. His wife Cynthia HENDERSON COCKRELL, d. 24 Nov 1870 in Chickasaw Co, MS.
Griffin COCKRELL, b. 10 Apr 1813, NC, son of William Haywood COCKRELL, m. Cynthia HENDERSON, in Greene Co, AL on 21 Dec 1835. Cynthia was b. 10 May 1815, in SC according to census reports. Have been unable to identify her parents. Birth dates are from family Bible in my possession. Bible lists following children: 1)Julia/Lalia?/Salia?/Selah?, b. ca 1836; 2) Mary, b. ca 1839; 3) Martha, b. ca 1841, d. 28 Jul 1868; 4) Milly, b. ca. 1845, d. 28 Sept 1868; 5) Frances "Fannie", b. ca 1849, m. Samuel HENDERSON; 6) Sarah, b. ca 1851; 7) Jacob "Jakey", b. ca 1854, d. 18 Jul 1869; and 8) Samuel Jefferson, b. 28 Jun 1857, m. 21 Jan 1878, Clay Co, MS, to Malinda Caroline "Callie" MITCHELL, d. 20 Jan 1936 in Comanche, Comanche Co, TX.
William Haywood COCKRELL is assumed to be the youngest child of Jacob COCKRELL and Penelope. He was not listed in the 1790 census of Nash Co, NC and is named last in his father's August, 1792, will. It is not known who he married. His children were 1) unknown son; 2) Griffin, b 10 Apr 1813, 3) Pernina m. Jesse LEOPARD, 4) an unknown daughter, believed to be Dolly Ann who m. William P. HARRINGTON, 5) unknown daughter. It is believed he m. 2) Susan CAM on 11 Mar 1827 in Greene Co, AL. They had two unknown daughters and one son Archie W. COCKRELL, possibly others. Cannot locate after 1840 census. Can anyone identify unknown children or prove other children? When did William Haywood COCKRELL die? Who did he marry?
Who were Penelope ? COCKRELL's parents? She was married to Jacob COCKRELL in 1792 when he died. If she was mother of all his children, they were married before 1778. Sometime between 1792 and 1800 she remarried to a WILLIAMS man. I have seen a will for a HAYWOOD/HAYGOOD man in Johnston Co, NC, who names a son Griffin. Could Penelope who named a son William Haywood COCKRELL be a HAYWOOD? William Haywood COCKRELL named a son Griffin COCKRELL.
Jacob died in 1792 in Nash County, NC. His will was written August, 1792, and probated in Nov 1792 in Nash County. It named his wife Penelope, sons Jonathan, Nathan, and William Haywood, and daughter Selah. Will witnessed by John COCKRELL and John VICK. Sole executor of will was John EATMAN.
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In a message dated 98-02-27 17:15:52 EST, you write:
<< Subj: Re: [COCKRELL-L] COCKERILL/COCKERHILL, Edward 1694 Virginia
Date: 98-02-27 17:15:52 EST
From: hhf.mas(a)merlin.ebicom.net (Mary Anne Sumrall)
To: BHughes721(a)aol.com (BHughes721)
Bella, I believe my ancestor, Jacob Cockrell who died in 1792 in Nash
County, N.C. was decended from this Edward. Jacob appears in Nash County
(Deed Book IV of N.C., p 1) State of North Carolina to Jacob Cockrell by
Governor Alex Martin, November 1, 1784, a tract of 100 acres on the east
side of Beaver Dam Swamp adjoining William Horn.
(p. 2) State of North Carolina a grant to jacob Cockrell by Governor Alex
Martin, November 1, 1784, a tract of 250 acres on Toisnot Swamp adjoining
Thomas Horn and John Eatman.
The inventory of Jacob Cockrell is listed on p 167 of Abstracts of Records
of Nash County, North Carolina 1777-1859.
Jacob Cockrell was married to a Penelope. (She appears in later deeds as
"Penelope Williams, the former wife of Jacob Cockrell".) There were four
children of this marriage: Jonathan, Nathan, William Haywood, and Selah.
(My ancestor is Jonathan) North Carolina Genealogy V (Books 4-6)
Jacob had at least two brothers located in Nash County. One was John
Cockrell who was a guardian to William Haywood Cockrell. (Abstracts of
Records of Nash County, N.C. 1777-1859 p. 310) The other brother was Joseph
who appears on numerous deeds at Toisnot Swamp. Mention is made of
Cockrell's Ferry and Cockrell's Bridge over the Tar River.At 10:51 AM
2/27/98 EST, you wrote:
Jonathan married Anna Cotton and along with his brothers Nathan and William
Haywood left Nash County about 1805 after he and his mother sold land to
George Greene on September 3, 1800 (Deed Book VI, p. 295). The families
lived for some time in Franklin County, N.C.. Jonathan appears on the 1820
Franklin County, N. C. Tax List - entry 470.
The families then moved on to Greene County, Alabama. Jonathan's oldest
child,
Henrietta, married Samuel Thomas Lofton on March 2, 1828 in Greene County.
Jonathan and his wife, Anna, are listed in the 1850 census. Anna died soon
thereafter and some family members believe Jonathan moved to MS to live with
his son. Several of the Cockrell children, including Henrietta Cockrell
Lofton, had moved to MS in 1847.
There are many descendants of Nathan still living in Alabama. William
Haywood Cockrell disappeared from Alabama and several of his descendants in
northern Mississippi have been unable to trace him.
Interestingly, a William Haywood owned land adjoining that of Jacob Cockrell
in Nash County, N.C. I am sure that is the origin of the name of Jonathan's
son. Some family researchers believe Penelope might have been a Haywood as
well.
Would love to learn more about this line if anyone has information.
Mary Anne>
>SURRY COUNTY, VIRGINIA COURT RECORDS 1691-1700 BOOK V.
>Weyette Parks Haun - 243 Argonne Drive - Durham, North Carolina 277404
>No author or compiler is listed on the title page.
>page 47 record [106] July 1694
>
>At the request of Jno. Little a refference is granted till the next Court in
>the suite depending betweene the said Little & Eliza. his wife defdts. &
Edwd.
>Cockerill as marrying Eliza. Proctor plt.
>
>page 49 record [109] Sept 1694
>
>Edward Cockerhill as marrying Eliza. Proctor not being provided to present
his
>accon agt John Little & Eliza. his wife, upon the sd. Littles motion is
>Nonsuited It is therefore Ordered that he pay damage according to Law with
>Costs als. Exon.
>
>This would then be a record of marriage between Edward Cockerill and Eliza.
>Proctor. And is it then also a civil matter discharged?
>Has anyone proven their line back this far yet? Can anyone connect to this
>Edward?
>Hope to hear from you soon.
>Bella >>
Hello Fellow Researchers,
Having sent out one of the wills quoted in this book, I would like to quote
for you a portion of the Introduction that may help us all better understand
the results of the marvelous finds made in some of our source materials.
ESSEX WILLS (ENGLAND) VOL. 1 1558 - 1565
Abstracted and Edited by F. G. Emmison
National Genealogical Society - Washington, D. C. 1982
page xii
WILLS AND GENEALOGY
"Some family historians and professional genealogists engaged on tracing
generations backwards would doubtless prefer this volume to have followed the
same direction (though it has never been adopted by published societies).
They may, however, receive immediate benefit from the full index of personal
names. Let us assume that ancestry has been taken back to 1700. Our index
may reveal the surname a century or more earlier in the same English county,
or, better still, in a smaller area. This is an encouraginig challenge to try
to bridge the gap. As further volumes are issued, the task becomes lighter,
though the challenge diminishes! And it should not be overlooked that a very
useful guide is already in print. (1)
(1) Wills at Chelmsford, 1400-1619 (1958), Wills..., 1620-1720 (1961), and
Wills..., 1721-1858 (1969), all ed. F. G. Emmison (British Record Society).
Among the latest Wills in this first volume is the name of more than one
infant or "child that my wife now goeth withal" who was to make his own
deathbed disposition as late or nearly as late as 1640, to which the American
sponsor hopes the series will extend, or who was to see his own child or
grandchild emigrate to New England. Expressed in another way, it is not
always realised a Will may embrace up to one-and-a-half centuries. In our
case, a testator may have been born before the generally accepted end of the
Middle Ages (1485). his youngest child may not die until the 1630s.
One cannot over-emphasise the fact that the spelling of surnames until a much
later date is very erratic. While the Index of Personal Names may show
several forms for some surnames, it seemed unnecessary to note all the minor
variants, and the same remark applies to the cross-references. A note at the
beginning of the index has further explanation to those unaccustomed to this
period.
A little-known genealogical point is that the same Christian name, probably a
cherished one, may be given by parents to another infant, not only after an
older child's death but also in the absence of such a death. Diligent
searchers of parish registers will have been puzzled at the appearance of two
baptisms with the same name and may have assumed an unrecorded burial, yet the
practice is far from rare. "Anne the elder and Anne the younger my children"
(no. 9630, "his two sisters great Joan and little Joan" (no. 187). "John my
eldest son and young John my son" (no. 486), and "Joan the elder and Joan the
younger, the daughters of John Colliar" (no. 524) are typical examples.
Parents' attitude in this respect becomes bizarre in the extreme case of "my
children, that is John, Robert, Agnes, Joan the elder, middle Joan, Margaret,
and Joan the younger" (no. 508), presumably the progeny not of two wives but
of one, as the wife's name is Joan. Two apparently favourite names, John and
Thomas, so service in another family (no. 871); but the reader may not be
convinced until he has tabulated the three references and cannot challenge the
editor by recourse to the parish registers because those before 1662 are lost.
A few more cases may be found (e.g. nos. 459, 871, and perhaps 555-6).
The preface has already referred to the extensive personal name indexes in the
Essex Record Office. In addition to the vast general index which is
especially rich for the century after circa 1550, the two earliest indexes
covering the whole county may be mentioned, viz. to the Lay Subsidy (tax)
assessment, 1524-5, and to the Ship Money assessment, 1637, each containing
about 15,000 names. Nearly all Essex registers of baptisms, marriages and
deaths (which may begin in 1538) are now in the Office, but very few of the
annual copies known as "Bishop's transcripts" are extant before the 19th
century. After Parish Registers and wills, the most valuable records for
genealogy are the great number of Manor Court Rolls and cognate manorial
archives deposited in the Office and now covering virtually the whole county
(see p.xi, n.2). Those for the period 1558-1640 alone include many thousands
of names, some with relationships stated on inheritance of land. Early Parish
Registers rarely give occupations, but Wills and Manor Court Rolls may furnish
them. (1)
(1)For a full description of all classes of records, see F. G. Emmison, Guide
to the Essex Record Office (revised and enlarged edn., 1969).
Another secondary genealogical fact is the name of the ancestor's house, farm
or manor, which may be in the same classes of records. A surprisingly large
number of 16th and 17th century Essex houses still exist, and attempts to
identify them with those named in the records can prove an exciting and
rewarding task. (2)
(2)The E. R. O. has an unusually large number of pre-1640 private estate maps
(see F. G. Emmison (ed.), Catalogue of Maps in the E. R. O. and its three
Supplements (1947-68)
The Essex Record Office will undertake very limited searches in response to
postal queries. If more work is required, the County Archivist can supply the
names of people known to accept commissions, on a fee-paying basis, for
searching records in the Essex area. (3)
(3)For wider research, apply to the Society of Genealogists, 37 Harrington
Gardens, London, SW7 4JX, or to the Association of Genealogists and Record
Agents, 62 Oakleigh Park North, London, N20 9AS."
Since these email windows are limited in publishing ability I have placed the
exponentation in parens and written them in as to be read rather than as
footnotes. This removes the direct quote format from this copy of the record.
I hope this is not distracting to anyone from the information contained in
this report.
Because I have heard these things discussed regarding Wills and
Administrations I hoped that by sharing this with you it might become a part
of future brainstorming conversations.
Hope to hear from you soon.
Bella
Hello,
It was a full day at the Library. I found one book after another showing the
various spellings of Cockrell, Cottrell, Cokerell, etc. I don't want to go
over that list because we have all seen that. However I intend for you to
recall it.
This book is:
SURRY COUNTY, VIRGINIA COURT RECORDS 1691-1700 BOOK V.
Weyette Parks Haun - 243 Argonne Drive - Durham, North Carolina 277404
No author or compiler is listed on the title page.
page 47 record [106] July 1694
At the request of Jno. Little a refference is granted till the next Court in
the suite depending betweene the said Little & Eliza. his wife defdts. & Edwd.
Cockerill as marrying Eliza. Proctor plt.
page 49 record [109] Sept 1694
Edward Cockerhill as marrying Eliza. Proctor not being provided to present his
accon agt John Little & Eliza. his wife, upon the sd. Littles motion is
Nonsuited It is therefore Ordered that he pay damage according to Law with
Costs als. Exon.
This would then be a record of marriage between Edward Cockerill and Eliza.
Proctor. And is it then also a civil matter discharged?
Has anyone proven their line back this far yet? Can anyone connect to this
Edward?
Hope to hear from you soon.
Bella
Hello Fellow Researchers,
While at the Library I found this. Perhaps someone reading this knows this
mans lineage. I would be pleased to know what that might be.
A HISTORY OF KENTUCKY BAPTISTS.
>From 1769 to 1885. Including More Than 800 biographical Sketches. by J. H.
Spencer.
This Manuscript Revised and Corrected by Mrs. Burrilla B. Spencer.
In Two Volumes, Vol. II.
Printed for the Author 1886. page 572
REUBEN COTTRELL was born in Henrico county, Va., in 1792. Here he grew to
manhood, receiving a fair English education. After his marriage, he emigrated
to Kentucky, and settled in Shelby county, in the fall of 1815. In the
following February, he united with Buck Creek church, in that county, and was
baptized by George Waller. He was ordained to the ministry by George Waller,
Zacheus Carpenter, John Holland and Wm. Stout, the same year in which he was
baptized.
Soon afterwards, he was invited to preach once a month to Buck Creek church.
About this period the subject of missions was agitated in Long Run
Association, and Mr. Cottrell was engaged to labor as missionary, within the
bounds of that fraternity. Louisville and Jeffersonville were points at which
he preached. During these labors, he became deeply imbued with the spirit of
missions, which led him to visit many points of destitution, on both sides of
the Ohio river. In 1832, he made a tour down the Ohio river as far as the
"Yellow Banks." Next year he moved to Daviess county, and settled on a farm.
He accepted a call to Bethabara church. A revivial followed almost
immediately, and 80 were added to the church. In 1834, he was called to Bells
Run, Blackford and Union churches. About this time, he was invited to deliver
a sermon at a barbecue, to be given on the 4th of July, at Owensboro. He
accepted the invitation, and afterwards continued to preach there, until he
raised up a church, to which he ministered till it could procure a pastor. In
1837, Little Bethel Association sent a letter and messengers to Goshen
Association, asking correspondence. The corresponding messengers from
Highland Association opposed the petition, on the ground that Little Bethel
believed in missions. Mr. Cottrell, with others, warmly advocated the
reception of the correspondence, and it was finally granted. The missionary
spirit became very active in the lower part of Goshen Association. A
convention of messengers from 13 churches was held, in 1838, and it was
resolved to employ two missionaries to labor in the region around Owensboro.
Mr. Cottrell and Samuel Anderson were appointed, and a great revival prevailed
under their labors. From this period, the work of missions was prosecuted in
this region, Mr. Cottrell always being a prominent actor, both in the council
and in the field, until his strength failed. For several years before his
death, he was too feeble to leave his home, and was constantly anticipating
his departure. On the 29th of May, 1863, the summons came, and he went to his
reward, after a very successful ministry of 47 years.
I would certainly say that this Rev. Reuben Cottrell is a worthy person to
include in any family history. Where he fits is not clear from this article
except it states his occupaton fully and is a high recommendation.
Hope to hear from you soon.
Bella
Hello,
I was prowling the Library today hoping for a solution to my little research
questions. On a shelf looking all innocent was a nice blue book. One of the
plain ones.
Title: Essex Wills (England) Vol.1 1558-1565
Archdeaconry of Essex
Archdeaconry of Colchester
Archdeaconry of Misslesex (Essex Division)
(Preserved in the Essex Record Office, chelmsford)
Abstracted and edited by F. G. Emmison
National Genealogical Society
Washington, D. C. 1982
This book tells all sorts of interesting things about what might be found in
it. These wills represent the common folk. These wills are the same that
modeled the wills we find in the colonies. Bless the ancient dead.
page 228 will (736)
THOMAS COKERELL the elder of Coggeshall, 16 Feb. 1562/3.
To the vicar for my tithes negligently forgotten 20d. To Elizabeth my wife my
house called Algors with the appurtenances and my copyland called Dedwoman
Hill; also my land called Whyghtes, the Hoop and Gulles, all for her life.
She to have every year 8 loads of wood on my lands where she shall see meet.
To George my son my house and land called Johnes in Sampford for his life;
after his death, to George my youngest son, paying for it 40 pounds; after his
death, to be distributed among my daughter's children by even portions at 21;
if George decease before such payment, successively to his brothers John and
Thomas. If any of them will not pay the 40 pounds, my executors shall sell it
and the money to be distributed between my daughter Margaret's children at 21.
To George my youngest son my house and land in Stisted both free and copy
called Whyghtes, with the tenements called Jylkes garden and Kytt Smythes and
another garden called Kytsmythes with tenements lying on the foreside of the
highway at Blackwater Bridgefoot [on boundary of Stisted, Pattiswick and
Bradwell-juxta-Coggeshall] and my house and Orchard called Algors and copyland
called Deadwoman Hill, all after my wife's decease. To Thomas my eldest son's
child my house and land called Christmasses and to his heirs if the custom of
the manor will suffer it. To John Cokrell my Eldest son's child my house and
land called Pyrrelles and to his heirs likewise. To Edward my eldest son's
child my house and land called Chulles [Gulles?]. To Thomas my youngest son's
child my house and land called Crowchmans. To John my youngest son's child my
house and lands called the Hope and to his heirs in the custom of the manor
will bear it. To my son George 6 pounds 13s. 4d. and 6 silver spoons. To
George my youngest son's child a featherbed, 6 silver spoons, a brass pot, a
table, the cupboard, all the hangings, and the press, at 21. To the poor of
Feering 2s., Stisted 2s., Sampford 20d., and Bradwell [juxta-Coggshall] 20d.
To each of my godchildren 4d. The residue of my goods to my wife. I ordain
my executors George my son, George my youngest son's child, and Thomas my
eldest son, and my wife to be my overseer, and for their labour 20s. each.
Witnesses: Thomas Frances priest, Nicholas Colman, John Gygonnes, Roger
Francis. Proved 2 June 1563.
This one is not easy to follow, especially when he starts out leading us to
believe that he has two sons named George. We do suspect that the man is not
well if he is preparing a will and mistakes can be made.
I hope this is near what was asked for. There are others in the book as well.
On to more of them.
Bella
From: Chandra Duncan-Scott
Hi Bella,
Thanks for responding. I have been working on Idella Cockrell for some
time. The info on her is very limited. I wasn't supposing that simply
giving a name would link this individual to any particular Cockrell line.
I'm simply asking about "will" information, and perhaps someone out there
has copies of some wills, which might, by chance list Idella. As I
mentioned to someone else on the mailing list, Idella had a child, Hattie, who
was fathered by one of the slave owners. It could have possibly been this
child.
It seems I obviously offended a lot of people asking about the slaves. Some
took it to mean I was asking someone else to do the research. Please, don't
misunderstand. That was not my intention. People from the Cockrell group
have obviously read some of the existing wills. I simply wanted to know
if someone ever came across that name as someone who as "willed", sold, or
perhaps just owned by a particular group.
Again, sorry folks if you were offended. Definitely not my intention.
Respectfully,
Chandra
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Chandra, you are most appreciated! Many thanks for all your posts;
--I have some Native American Indian ancestors - have you seen any
COCKRELL, etc. connections to Indians? Census listed them as Black
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or generally per Subject sequence:
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-- This is my Cockrell line beginning with my earliest know ancestor.
James may have been the son of Moses Cockrell who dies about 1802 in SC.
Would love to hear from anyone having information on this family.
Descendants of James Cockrell
James Cockrell was born before 1810 in South Carolina and died abt 1843
in Tuscaloosa Co., Al. He married Delilah ? James arrived in Alabama
in the late 1830's with a land grant. His children were:
Jeremiah b abt 1831
Sara Elizabeth b 27 Aug 1833, d 24 Jan 1896 and is buried at Romulus
Methodist Church Cemetery. She married James Henry Ball 22 Apr 1858 at
her mother's home in Ralph, Al.
Jemima b abt 1835
Janet b abt 1837
Mary b abt 1840
Jemima and Mary are listed as living in the household of J. H. and Sara
Ball on the 1860 census.
The 1860 Slave schedule shows that J. H. Ball had 10 slaves, Jemima had
5 and Mary had 10. Delilah Cockrell was deceased by this time.
If you have would like to share information on this family, please let
me know.
Alice
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Alice Ball Jones alice(a)sonet.net P. O. Box 670 Parrish, Al 35580
Searching: BALL * COCKRELL/COCKERELL * HEADEN * JENNINGS * MABRY *
McCLENDON
McJUNKIN * OLIVER * PEARSON * PENNINGTON * POOLE * POWELL *
ROBERTSON/ROBINSON
IN THESE STATES: AL, GA, NC, SC, VA
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Fellow Researchers,
Let's show some patience, tolerance and understanding. Our goal is the
development of accurate information. Let's keep the list friendly and our
minds open to new ideas.
Tom Cockerel
Ms Hughes,
Are you intentionally rude or are you unaware of the tone of your emails?
I see the Cockrell list as a forum for the free exchange of information. I
saw nothing in Ms Scott's query that asked you to do the research.
We on this list are all aware of your "price" for information exchange.
In the future, I will delete your posts without reading.
Barbara Bradley
From: Chandra Duncan-Scott
Hello,
Am looking for information on Idella Cockrell. Your message was a small bit of
a coincedence. Idella married a Calvin Stimage. One of their children had the
first name Daisy (howeveer, Daisy, again, would be a Stimage).
I noticed that some of the Cockrell's owned slaves. Idella may have been one,
and perhaps had a mistress named Daisy, thus naming her child. Again, this
is a little close, and trying to find out information about Idella Cockrell,
has run into a dry wall.
Thanks for your assistance.
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From: Chandra Duncan-Scott
COCKRELL, IDELLA, b.?, d.?, married to Calvin Thomas Stimage, had four children
born to this union: Daisy Idella, Alma, Georgia, Percy.
No one has addressed the slaves of the Cockrell group. I need to have someone
address this issue and tell me if they find a slave somewhere in the group by
the name of Idella Cockrell (she may not have been a slave, but judging from
her era, and the fact that she was black and married a man from Africa, I would
suppose so).
This may not be an area that anyone is interested in covering, however, this
area needs to be researched as well. There are some African-Americans who are
descendants of Cockrells, and this is the information I'm looking for. Again,
despite putting this word out among the Cockrell, I find this area has not been
addressed and neither have I received any responses from anyone.
Information would be greatly appreciated.
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Hello,
Why would I address the slaves? None have appeared in the estate inventories
I have gathered.
What do you have on your person? How was this person listed in the census?
Was there another Cockrell in the same township? county? state?
Not all of the persons on the slave schedules were blood kin to the Cockrells.
No it is not for me to do the research. It is for the descendant to research
their own line.
If, when granted freedom a family took the name Cockrell from the household
granting the papers, then they would be of the same name but honestly from the
same line? Only the descendant might know or the family might have
remembered.
How would I search for this?
Well first I would follow the trail back as far as I could and search the
nearest Cockrell family for their personal property lists and the slave
schedules. Those are on each census too. That list is a gender list. I
would skip all the ones of incorrect gender. Then I would check slave
records. I have seen these but never searched them. At least you could find
an Idella. Then try to fit together the information to see if it agrees with
your family traditions and other information.
All slaves had to have papers in each household. So a definate paper trail
for these persons would exist at the change of every household. Follow the
trail. Purchase from and sold to.
However to suggest that from a name and nothing more I could possibly tie a
person into a family history is not probable.
Good luck
Hope to hear from you soon
Bella