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The John Cobbs of the grave may be the son of Charles Cobbs, who was brother to Thomas Cobbs of your will.
Thomas' son, John, was born 17 Jan 1765, and he died before June 1815. He had one daughter, Mary "Polly" Cobbs, who m John Almond. I think this last was from Thomas' will which you undoubtedly already know.
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I would like to know if this John Cobbs who was married to Sarah Fisher ...is my John Cobbs. My John Cobbs was the son of a Thomas Cobbs (Will probated 27 June 1822) lived in Campbell County, Virginia. I have been told by other researchers that John Cobbs was married to Sarah Fisher. I was told after John died Sarah married a William Graves. Are these people the same ones that you have the gravesites for. If so I would like to know where the cemetry is.
Any information will be appreciated
I've been researching the Cobb family in Eddyville,
Livingston/Caldwell/Lyon Co. KY in the early 1800's, and found that
there seem to be at least two separate Cobb families in the area.
Does anyone recognize Josiah Cobb who died there in 1817, leaving a
widow Ann?
In Dec 1838 (perhaps after Ann died???) his "heirs & legal
representatives" sold the 200 ac. on the waters of Skinframe Creek
that he had bought 11 Jan 1809. They were:
Humphrey Cobb
Sam T Cobb & wife Nancy
Delila Cobb
Harriet Cobb
all of DeSoto Co. MS, and
Hezehiah Cobb
of Shelby Co. TN
There was also a Jesse Cobb active in Eddyville around the same time I
don't know if he was related to Josiah.
None of these seem related to "my" Cobbs, Gideon Dyer Cobb and John
Cobb, who moved to Eddyville from VT in 1801. Anyone recognize them?
Terry Reigel
I've just found Irvin S. Cobb's autobiography, "Exit Laughing." In it
I find several surprising "discoveries." In recounting his ancestry he
says:
- Henry Cobb was one of three brothers who came out of County Mayo in
their youth, "bided a while in Norwich, in England, before sailing in
1626" to Jamestown.
- Henry, "being Irish and therefore naturally inclined to help run a
government or tear it apart" promptly became a deputy of the general
court.
- His younger brothers, John and James, "stayed behind to breed
copiously, first in Virginia and later in North Carolina and Georgia."
- Henry went up to Plymouth, about 1634.
- Henry had been reared "within the Catholic fold but apparently was
pliably inclined in the matter of orthodoxy" as he was soon ordained a
deacon "at a dissenters' meeting house." (Adding, at intervals since
"some of use have returned to the Ancient Faith.")
- Henry begat 13 offspring by 2 wives, naming the last one Experience.
- Henry was the first "among English-speaking dwellers on this
continent" to get a license to dispense hard drinks, citing Scituate
church files for 1636 "Good Man Cobb being of sober mien and excellent
discretion, is authorized to draw spirits."
- The "Deacon's tribe were a restless and fruitful one. They did there
replenishing best to populate Massachusetts and Maine and Connecticut
and northern New York State and eventually Vermont."
- He then describes Gideon Dyer Cobb's venture with Matthew Lyon and
"up to twelve neighboring families, most of them of Irish birth or of
the Irish breed" in their move to Eddyville, Kentucky.
- He continues with the story of the family's life in western
Kentucky, at one point crediting Gideon Dyer Cobb's success to "both
Down-East thrift and Gaelic adaptability."
I would appreciate any clarification from those who have studied this
family more thoroughly than I. I know that in general, Henry's two
wives and many offspring, including daughter Experience, and the
family's migration around New England are correct. And, for the most
part, his description of Gideon Dyer's family are accurate (I've
studied that at some length - he was an ancestor of my wife).
But, the part about Henry the Elder settling first in Jamestown, with
two brothers who founded the Virginia Cobbs, as best I can see, is
wrong. It is in direct conflict with Philip Cobb's account, and seems
at odds with the accounts of the two Virginia Cobb lines on the "Cobb
and Cobbs" webstite. Was there a Henry in Jamestown, who became a
member of the court there? Did James and John exist there?
Likewise, the story of the family's Irish roots, which seems deeply
ingrained in the author, seems at odds with everything I've seen about
Henry's ancestry. I've seen a supposed ancestry showing the Cobbs in
Reculver, Kent, for many generations before Henry's emigration. But if
I'm reading correctly the DNA findings as described on the "Cobb and
Cobbs" webstite, this is disproved, and Henry's ancestry remains a
mystery. So, is it possible the Irish ancestry is correct? If not, why
was the story so strongly embedded in family lore?
Any information appreciated.
Terry Reigel