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thanks for the inquiry. Your Eli would actually be Eli Jr, and that would be a brother to my Joseph. I do have some information about Eli Jr's brothers, he also had two sisters. I have some about the parent's also. I would love to hear any information you have about this family and I will share what I do know about them with you. I don't have any other children listed for either Eli Jr or Eunice. I only have Alma/Almina listed. She was named after her aunt who died at the age of 9, that I do know. Looking forward to hearing from you. :-)
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I believe that maybe we could be related. I'm Luwana Francine Todd, my grandmother was Almina Elizabeth Cobb. She was the daughter of Eunice Lizabeth Norton and Eli CobbI don't know a whole lot about Joseph Cobb, but I could share what info I may have. I'm looking for info on Eli and his brothers, also on my grandmother's half brother,Thomas Otis.
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Dolores (nee COBB) Phifer
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Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 5:34 PM
Subject: JAMESTOWN JUBILEE 1857 250 YEAR ANNIVERSARY RARE REPORT
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250 Year Celebration of the Founding of America at Jamestown
Rare Report Documenting the Jubilee
Harpers Weekly June 27th 1857
This Rare report on the 250th Jubilee at Jamestown is in mint condition and would be a most esteemed addition for the collector, scholar or patriot. There is very little available documentation of the 1857 celebration and this two page report on the matter is great find. This item is unusually well preserved and would be a gem addition for the Jamestown collector.
In short, at auction is a mint condition original copy containing a two page report on the proceedings at the 250 year celebration at Jamestown. The report contains multiple large prints of the event as well as a lengthy eye witness description of the event. This item is museum quality, perfect for framing (You can see my personal framed copy in the photos section).
First page of Report on the Celebration at Jamestown
Second page of Report on the Celebration at Jamestown
The report will come in a black buffalo grain portfolio with mahogany spine. The cover is stamped in gold leaf and the entire portfolio is constructed using acid-free archival quality materials. The newspaper is placed within an inner transparent sleeve for protection and display. Also contained inside the portfolio is a certificate guaranteeing this item to be a complete, authentic issue printed on the date noted.
Along with the report I will send a reprinted copy of the extremely rare Keynote given by John Tyler at the event. President Tyler's speech lasted for over two hours and is truly one of the most epic jubilee orations in American History, and yet over time it has been forgotten to the point of literal disappearance. This speech is extremely difficult to locate with no reprints or original copies available anywhere. Tyler's opening remarks and closing sentence are below:
"I congratulate you on the success which has crowned your efforts. You have founded a society which I trust is destined to no early or premature decay. Virginia has been awakened by your summons, and her patriotic sons and daughters are here to greet you. It is fitting that it should be so. The memory of a glorious ancestry should be kept bright in the recollections of their posterity; and their noble daring in the cause of civilization, and brave resolves in favour of freedom, should be recounted from generation to generation. Your society is designed to be the connecting link between the past and that mighty future which is yet to be. If there ever were men worthy to be held in remembrance, they were those who settled this now flourishing country, and incorporated with its very soil the principles of human right - what wonderful results have arisen from that event which we have met here to celebrate? A small body of men planted on this spot the seed of a mighty empire. It sprung up, its growth at first sickly, and often near perishing, but finally it grew and flourished until at this day millions of the human family shelter under its branches, and its leaves are watered by the dews of two oceans. To me you have assigned the task of opening the records of the past, and of tracing the developments of this great adventure. I can do no more than furnish brief sketches of the most prominent actors and acts which spread over centuries, and I shall do so without an effort to clothe them in a drapery which is either rhoterieal or artificial...
Closing Sentence:
Here amid the graces of our ancestors, we renew our pledges to those principles of self-government, which have been cones-crated by their examples through two hundred and fifty years; and implore that great Being who so often and sig-nally preserved them through trials and difficulties, to continue to our country His protecting guardianship and care."
- John Tyler May 13, 1857
In 1857 America celebrated its 250th Anniversary, in 2007 America celebrates its 400th Anniversary. Two brief articles giving context to the 1857 Celebration are contained below.
"We had been possessed with a vague idea that we were going somewhere on a spree and until that moment had not realized the fact that we were on a pious pilgrimage to the birth-place of a mighty nation."
-David H. Strother, May 12, 1857
An artist and writer for Harper's Weekly who went by the pseudonym "Porte Crayon," but whose name was David H. Strother, skillfully and engagingly captured the mood and spectacle when, on May 13, 1857, Jamestown Island was roused from its sleep by 6,000 guests. Like so many serious visitors to historic places, Strother wished he had not arrived as part of a group. "How we did wish, all those people were elsewhere enjoying themselves, that we might have this day among the tombs," he wrote. Then he said, "Doubtless there were thousands who joined us in that egotistical wish."
While Strother and a few other early arrivals were trying to read inscriptions on the time-worn tombstones, they were joined by what he called "the bone and sinew," who he thought were crewmen from one of the boats in the flotilla that lay offshore.
"Well, dear me," said one, "this is the place we've come to celebrate, is it? And here's where they were buried? They say it was a hundred years ago." "Two hundred and fifty years ago," said another. "Well, to be sure that's a good while, so I'll just take a bit of this 'ere tombstone as a 'momentum' of it."
So saying, the speaker cracked off a suitable chunk from one of the slabs. The others contented themselves with a brickbat a piece, and having pocketed their sentiments went their way toward the camp.
A large military camp lay downriver, and upstream, adjacent to what, less than a decade later, would be a Confederate fort, stood marquees and stands for dignitaries, college personnel, and Williamsburg citizens. In the fifty years since the previous celebration, when the island, mostly farmland in those days, could be reached only by boat or across an eroding causeway often submerged at high tide, a bridge had been built across the back river. It completed a straight path to the ruined church and remained the termination of Jamestown Road from Williamsburg until 1955, when National Park Service preparations for the 1957 celebrations included rebuilding the causeway and removing the bridge.
There were white pavilions for the ladies, booths for refreshment, kitchens, a stand for the speakers, and an extensive camp of the military from Richmond.... Drums were beating, colors flying, pots boiling, and glasses rattling; gallant looking officers on horseback, were galloping about the field; companies of soldiers were marching and manoeuvring; while the great unorganized multitude just swarmed about the pavilions, without doing anything in particular that we could conceive.
To get a better view, the artist climbed a tree and settled down thirty feet up. He could see a military contingent from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, "which demonstration from a sister state was well received and was one of the marked incidents of the day." It would be repeated more substantially in 1907 along with grandiose representations, among them buildings, some extant, from the other old colonial states.
The keynote speaker was former President John Tyler, who came from his nearby plantation, Sherwood Forest... From the tree, Porte Crayon could not hear, but he assured his readers that those who could "were much edified and delighted." After Tyler's oration, someone read a poem written for the occasion, and Virginia's Governor Wise delivered "a brief but spirited conclusion" before reviewing the troops. With the show over, the crowd melted away, some to Williamsburg, but most back aboard the fleet of sailing and steam vessels anchored off the island. While being rowed out to the Norfolk, a man fell overboard "and was rescued with so much difficulty, it was ascertained" that he "had a brick in his hat, which he was carrying off as a memento of the celebration."
The Norfolk was the last vessel to leave, and as paddle wheels churned out into midstream, Strother watched the penultimate rays of the setting sun shining "full upon the face of the ruined tower, lighting it with a smile as of a grinning skeleton. Another moment," he wrote, "a gray oblivious shadow covered it like a pall."
Another period report of the events is contained below
CELEBRATION AT JAMESTOWN :
Report of the Proceedings of the Celebration of the Two Hundred and Fiftieth
Anniversary of the English Settlement at Jamestown .
The Jamestown Satiety of Washington City, an association consisting of Virginia gentlemen residing there, having determined to celebrate, at the site of Jamestown , the two hundred and fiftieth Anniversary of the settlement, invited Ex-President Tyler to deliver an Oration, and Mr. James Barron Hope a Poem, on the occasion. The invitations were kindly accepted by those gentlemen. As the members of the Society resided two hundred and fifty miles from the site of James-town, and were strangers to its neighbourhood, they could not and did not undertake to do more than charter a steamboat to convey themselves, and such as might join them at Washington and Alexandria, to the site of Jamestown, land and explore the ground, return to their boat, and there, in view of the site, celebrate the Anniversary by the delivery of the Oration and Poem, Public statements to this effect were made in answer to several communications from Virginia, made to the Society after its purpose had become publicly known. At the same time it was stated that the Society would gladly co-operate in any arrangements which might be made in Virginia for having the celebration on the ground. In the execution of this purpose the Society chartered the steamer Powhatan. They also engaged music. It was not till within a few hours before the boat was to leave the wharf at Washington that it was ascertained that the engagement would not be fulfilled. Every effort was made, but without success, to remedy the disappointment. The Secretary of War kindly gave the Society an order on the commanding officer of Fortress Munroe; but on presenting the order it was found that the music, which had been ordered thither front New York , had not yet arrived.
About 6 o'clock, P. M., of Monday, May 11th, 1857, the steamer Powhatan, with a company consisting of members of the Society and others, left Washington and arrived at the site of Jamestown about 9 o'clock on the morning of Wednesday, the 13th following. Several steamers, from Norfolk . and Richmond , were in the river with banners flying, &c. The company landed by means of a temporary wharf and scow, which the neighbours had provided, opposite to the fragments of the old church. Colonel William F. Phillips was appointed marshal; and under his guidance the company moved in procession, a distance of about two miles, to a part of the island on which the military were encamped, and where it was understood a rostrum had been erected. Lt. Colonel Cary of the First Regiment of Virginia Volunteers, the officer having charge of the military arrangements, received the Society with distinguished courtesy, and extended to them every facility in his power.
About 12 o'clock Ex-President Tyler arrived at the landing in the steamer Glen Cove, from Richmond, escorted by Mr. Montague, Chairman of the Committee of the Society, appointed for that purpose, was received at the landing by the whole Committee, and by them attended to the rostrum.
About one o'clock, P. M., Philip R, Fendall, Esq., President of the James-town Society of Washington City , ad-dressed the meeting as follows:
Fellow-Citizens:
We have assembled to commemorate the two hundred and fiftieth Anniversary of the first permanent English settlement in North America . We are on the site of what once was Jamestown - pilgrims to the graves of our forefathers. Their heroism and constancy here planted the seeds of a mighty republic, now reaching from ocean to ocean, dispensing to millions the blessings of civil and religious liberty, and animating by its example the cause of human rights throughout the world. Auspicious to all mankind is the great event which we celebrate! Especially, deeply interesting is it to Virginia , whose soil was its scene! On this day, and on this consecrated spot, you will hear from her gifted and honoured son a fit recital of the most glorious theme in the annals of civilization.
On an occasion so suggestive as the present of gratitude, to the Almighty Ruler of the Universe, it is proper that our exercises should be begun with prayer. Allow me to introduce to you the Rev. Mr. Wilmer, of Williamsburg ,
who will address the throne a grace.
The Rev. George T. Wilmer then advanced in front of the stand and pronounced the following prayer:
Almighty God, Creator and Governor of all things visible and invisible, we beseech Thee graciously to hear us who are now assembled in Thy name and presence. May Thy spirit preside over the celebration of this day - impress all who are present with a due sense of their obligations unto Thee. Thou hast wonder-fully preserved and prospered this people, when they were strangers in the land, and but few in number, Thou didst help them, and didst show, that the race was not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong. Now, that they here become a powerful nation, grant them magnanimity equal to the fortitude which they displayed in the days of their weakness. May we ever remember that, our fore-fathers brought, here their holy religion, with their political institutions, and planted the vine of the Lord by the side of the pillars of the State. These both have grown together, to remain, as we trust, forever united, Teach us to worship and serve Thee, not only as the Lord of hosts, but also as the God of our eternal salvation; which we ask in the name of our Saviour Jesus Christ; to whom, with Thee and the Holy Ghost, be all honour and glory, world without end. Amen.
Ex-President Tyler was then introduced to the meeting, and pronounced the following Oration:
President Tyler's speech lasted for over two hours and is truly one of the most epic jubilee orations in American History, and yet over time it has been forgotten to the point of literal disappearance. This speech is extremely difficult to locate with no reprints or original copies available anywhere. A reprinted copy of John Tyler's Famous oration will accompany the Original Report.
Hello. I am attaching a copy of "The William and Mary Quarterly, Vol. 19,
No. 1 (Jul., 1910), pp. 51-56" that a wonderful person on one of my other
lists pulled for me. Leticia was most generous. I put the request for help
and Martin responded and now I am sharing with
the rest of you. You can't beat this for a source... unless you have a copy
of the real thing.
It looks like my part of this family (Ambrose Cobbs) ends on page 52.
Enjoy.
Hope you find it useful.
Thanks.
Dolores (nee Cobb) Phifer
Cobb or Cobbs Family
The William and Mary Quarterly, Vol. 19, No. 1 (Jul., 1910), pp. 51-56
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WILLIAMAND h1.4~~QUARTERLY s1
On Friday, April 13, 1908, the corner stone was laid with ap-
propriate exercises, and on Friday, May 14, 199, the Library
was opened to the public. On the latter occasion the State
Librarian, H. R. McIlwaine, was present and made an interest-
ing address, well worthy of preservation and publication.
COBB OR COBBS FAMILY.
The Cobb or Cobbs family were first represented in Virginia
by I AMBROSECOBBS, who on July 25, 1639, patented 350 acres
upon the Appomattox River for the importation of himself, Anne
his wife, 2 Margaret his daughter, 3 Robert his son, Richard
Barker, Hugh Barker, Thomas Harvey. From the records of
York County he appears to have had two other sons: 4 Antbrose,
5 Thomas, which last died in 1702 without issue.
3 ROBERT^ COBBS (son of Ambrosel Cobbs) was, according
to his deposition, born in 1627, and lived in Marston Parish,
York County, of which he was church warden in 1658. When
RIarston Parish was absorbed in Bruton Parish in 1674, he was
a member of the vestry of the new parish. After Bacon's Rebellion
he was appointed justice of York County on the following
recommendation of the clerk, John Baskervyle :
"To the Rt honble Sr William Berkeley, Knt Gournr, &c.
John Baskervylz in behalfe of Yorke County most humbly presenteth.
That the said County being of large extent but few magistrates to officiate,
some being lately decd, humbly prays that Mr William Booth, Mr
Edward Mosse & Mr Robert Cobb may be admitted by yor Honr into the
commission. being reported Loyal1 & honest subjects. And he shall ever
pray Bc. The 23th March 1676-7 this peticon is granted, and these are
ordrd to be sworn at the next County Court. Teste Henry Hartwell,
C1. Con."
In 1682 Mr. Cobbs was appointed sheriff of York County
by Sir Henry Chicheley. In 1679 Daniel Parke, Secretary of
State, died and Mr. Cobbs was administrator of the Virginia
estate of Col. Parke. He married Elizabeth -, born according
to her deposition, in 1634. He died Dec. 29, 1682, and
she on October 7, 1684. (Bruton Parish Register.) He left
a personal estate valued at f80 12.01.
He had issue 6 Edmund married Frances , and died
Dec. 21, 1682. They had no issue, and the widow Frances mar-
ried 2dly John Stewart, of York County; 7 Ambrose; 8 Otho,
who appears to have died without issue; 9 Robert.
"The deposition of Elizabeth Cobb aged 50 years saith: That where-
as my decd husband, Robert Cobbs, did putt a child to school to Valen-
tine Evans to Learne him to wright & reade at the rate of twenty shil-
lings a year, I the sd Eliz. Cobbs being informed yt the sd Mr Evans
never took any more of any one than twenty shillings as Afforesd, did
send another sonn to be instructed as afforesd, & yor depont is willing to
make satisfaction for the time that my sonn was with him, and further
saith not-Eliza Cobb E. C. (Signum). . . . .
Sworne before mee the 21 July 1684, Martyn Gardner. Recorded
July 26, 1684."
"It is ordered upon the peticon of Otho Cobb that MIS ffrances Relict
of her decd husband Edmund Cobb give bond with security to ye court
for yr Estate of Mr Robert Cobb, deceased, father of the said Otho yt ye
same be not imbezzled ,or wasted and yt shee be accomptible for ye same
after ye expiration of nyne monthes after her said husbands decease, shee
being therewith possest as his Relict."
Abstract of the will of Edmund Cobb of Yosk County, Bru-
ton Parish: Negroes to brother Ambrose Cobbs and my gold ring
which was my father's. Brother Otho and Robert Cobbs, son-
in-law (stepson) Matthew Pierce, wife Frances, cousin Eliza
Kerle. Dated March 2, 1690-91-proved March 7, 1693. In
1693 Otho Cobbs stated that he was of full age and petitioned
that Mrs. Frances Cobbs, widow of Mr. Edmund Cobbs, de'cd,
be summoned to the next court in regard to his father's estate.
7 AMBROSE~ Ambrosel) was
COBBS (R~bert,~ churchwarden
of Bruton Parish Church at Williamsburg. He married Eliza-
beth ,and his will dated April 24, 1718, was proved June
16, 1718. It names daughter 10 Frances; 11 Robert; 12 Thonzas;
13 John, to whom a negro boy that belonged to the estate ;)f
Thomas Pinkethman; 14 Edmund; 15 Anzbrose. Witnesses Ann
Frith, Joseph Frith, Matthew Pierce. Wife and sons Robert
and Thomas were made exors.
WILLIAMAND MARYQUARTERLY
I I ROBERT^ COBBS (Ambro~e,~ Ambrosel) married
R~bert,~
probably the daughter of Abraham Vinckler of James City CO.,
and his will was proved in York County in 1727. He gives his
estate to be divided among "all his children." Sons 16 Vinck-
ler and 17 John Cobbs appointed executors.
12 THORIAS~ R~bert,~
COBBS (Ambro~e,~ Ambrosel) married
hiary Shields, named in the will of her father James Shields, of
Williamsburg. He made his will in 1736 and names 18 Ambrose,
19 Thomas, 20 Matthew. This will was proved in York County,
September 17, 1750, and was witnessed by Ben Eggleston, Ed-
mund Cobbs and James Shields.
In Chesterfield County, in 1752, 1110 acres were divided
among Ambrose, Thomas and Matthew Cobbs.
In the same county, in 1783, Ambrose Cobbs made his will
and names his 4 sisters-Elizabeth Booth, Hannah Marshall,
Mary Perkinson and Phebe Cobbs.
4 AMBROSE~ COBBS (Ambrosel) appear to have died about
1688 and had issue: 21 Willia~n,22 Robert.
In 1688 the York records mention George Glasscock as marry-
ing Mary, relict of Ambrose Cobbs, and mother of William
Cobbs.
Will of Thomas Cobbs made December 18, 1702, and proved
February 4, 1702: TOcousin William Cobbs, my house and lot
where I now live, and if he died then the same to go to Thomas
Cobbs; To Isaac Sart a black mare running now at Powhatan;
two sows to Alice Newman; to Robert Cobbs, son of Ambrose
Cobbs; all the remaining part of my estate to cousins Ambrose
Cobbs, Robert Cobbs, Otho Cobbs and Robert Kerle, to be equally
divided between them.
Sept. 25, 1702. In the difference between William Cobbs, son
of Ambrose Cobbs deceased and Coll. Edmund Jenings, wherein
the plaintiff requires the defendant to give an account of what
part of his deceased father's estate he has in his hands as trustee
to the same, and sold at Public outcry 13 Oct., 1690.
Nov. 24, 170j. The return of the appraisement of William
Cobbs deceased is continued-Mary Cobbs, the administrator.
21 WILLIAM COBBS (Ambr~se,~
Ambro~e,~)and blary hi:
wife: (She was probably hlary Timson) had issue (perhaps:
23 Sanzztel Cobbs-first of York County and then of Amell:
County.
In 1719 Samuel Cobbs obtained a license to keep ordinar)
in Williamsburg. In 1717 he married Edith, daughter of Jear
Marot, a French Huguenot innkeeper of IVilliamsburg. He re
moved to Amelia County and his will dated June 27, 1757, was
proved there July 28, 1757. His widow, Edith's will was dated
March 9, 1758, and was proved July 2, 1761.
23 SAMUEL~COBBS and Edith hfarot had issue: 24 John
Catlin Cobbs; 25 Samuel Cobbs, who had houses in William<-
burg; he was probably the student named in the catalogue in
1754. 26 Anne married Col. Edward Booker, of Amelia in 1739
27 Edith married Edmund Booker, who died in 1792 ; 28 Sarah
who married George Booker which last died in 1791; 29 Thendosia,
died unmarried in 1782; 30 Judith married
Eggleston; 31 Mary, wife of John Le Neve to whom IOO acrt.s
in Prince Edward County.
24 JOHYCATLIN COBCS (Samuel 4, married Rachel Smith,
in 1767, and his will dated Feb. 8, 1800, was proved in Arneli~
County, Oct. 23, 1800. It names wife Rachel and c1:ildren: 32
Edith Asselin, wife of Francis Asselin; 33 Sarah Booker, wife
of Richard Booker; 34 Samuel Cobbs ; 35 Thomas JIT. Cobbs
36 John C. Cobbs; 37 Edward S. Cobbs. Administrator Francis
Anderson and Richeson Booker.
25 SA~IUELCOBBS (Samuel 4, married Elizabeth hlunford
in 1768. (Marriage bond.) She was the daughter of Thomas
Munford of Amelia, whose will was dated March 5, 1785, and
names children Ann &Tunford; Thomas hlunford; Martha
Booker, wife of Samuel Booker ;Edward hluilford ;Eliza Cobbs ;
Sarah Wily.
14 EDMUND~15 AMBROSL~COBBS, sons of 7 Ambrose3
or
Cobbs, was probably father of 38 Samttel; 39 Edlnund and 40
John Cobbs of Louisa County.
38 SA~IUEL XOBBS(Edmund or Ambrose 4?) married hlarv,
daughter of Col. Robert Lewis and his will dated Sept., 1758 was
proved in Louisa County, Xovember 28, 1758.
Willof Santtlel Cobbs of the parish of Fredericksville, County
of Louisa, Virginia: Names wife and three children: 41 Janr,
42 Robert, and 43 Judith, brothers Edmund and John Cobbs.
Has land on the Blackwater in Bedford County. Should all my
wife's children die without issue, then so much of my estate as
came by my wife shall be equally divided among the children of
Jane, the wife of Thomas ;\Periwether, of Louisa County, and
Ann, the wife of John Lewis of Spotsylvania County. Mr.
Samuel Dalton, hPr. Nicholas Lelvis, and brother Edmund Cobbs
executors. Dated Sept., 1758, proved Kov. 28, 1758.
42 ROCEBT~
COBBS (Samuel Cobbs 9 married Ann Gizzage
Poindexter, Nov. 19, 1783, in Louisa (Register) and had 43 John
Poindexter, born &fay 2, 1785. A Robert Cobbs was a Captain
in the Revolutionary Army and received land bounty. He is said
to have moved to Georgia where he has descendants. A Robert
Cobbs was living in Halifax County in 1761. (Hening, Statutes
at Large, 'LTII.,421.) His will dater1 Jany. 19, 1769, names chil-
dren Ann, Elizabeth, Judith, Samuel.
40 JOI-IN~COBCS,or COBB, brother of 39 Samuel5 Cobbs, mar-
ried in Granville Co., K. c., in 1769, Mildred Lewis, daughter
of Howell Le~vis, son of Col. Charles Lewis of the Byrd (brother
of Col. Robert Lewis above mentioned). (Marriage bond at
Oxford). They moved to Georgia. Issue : 44 Ho~vell Cobb (born
Aug. 3, 1772, died May 26, 1818). Captain U. S. A., an M. C.
from Georgia, married hlartha A. Jaqueline Rootes ; 45 Mat y
Willis Cobbs married Robert I\'. Flournoy ; 46 Susannah. mar-
ried Charles Uostwick; 47 Henry IVillis Cobb, married Obedience
D. Bugg; 48 Jolz~z Adison Cobb, born January 5, 1783,
married Sarah Robinson Rootes; 49 Mildred H. Cobb, married
TITilliam H. Jackson.
48 JOHN AD IS ON^ COBS (John" Cobb) was born January 5,
1783, and died Nov. 21, 1855, married April 11, 1812, Sarah
Robinson Rootes (born Sept. 20, 1792; died July 23, 1866).
WILLIAMAND MARYQUARTERLY
Issue: 50 Gen. Ho~vell Cobb, U. S. Senator; 51 Laura Battail:
Cobb; 52 Mildred Lewis Cobb ; j3 Thomas Reade Rootes Cobb;
54 John B. Cobb; 55 Mary JYillis Cobb; 56 Sarah Martha Cob:).
The issue of them is given in Va. illagazine, IV., 332, 333. See
also JVILLIAM AXD MARY QUARTERLY, XI., 40, 41.
9 ROBERT^ COBBS (R~bert,~
Ambrosel) lived in York County.
He married I. Rebecca daughter of William Pinkethman. She
died in I715 leaving issue: 57 Elizabeth, born in 1704, married
James Shields in 1719; 58 Rebecca. He married 11. EIizabeth,
daughter of Daniel Allen and had 59 Sarah, who married Robert
Jones, Jr., of Sussex Co., who moved to North Carolina and was
Attorney-General of that State and they were parents of the dis-
tinguished Allen and Willie Jones of the Revolution ; 60 Martha,
she married Major Dudley Richardson. WILLIAMAND MARY
QUARTERLY,VI., 121, Va. Magacitze, X., 101, 196. After the
death of Robert Cobbs his widow, Elizabeth, married Samuel
Weldon, of Henrico County, Va.
In Campbell County is the will recorded of Charles Cobbs,
Senior, dated RIarch 3, 1798, and proved January 13, 1800. It
names wife Ann and children (I) Jesse, (2) John, (3) Charles
R., (4) Caleb, (5) JVilliam W., (5) Samuel D., (7) Thomas, (8)
Frances Rodgers and her children, Tl'illiam Rodgers, Elizabeth
Ann Rodgers and Ann Walton Rodgers. He made his sons Jesse
and John Cobbs and Edmund Herndon, exors., and his friends
Robert Alexander and Thomas Clark, counsellors to them as they
may need. Witnesses, Jliilliston Talbot, Edmund Johns, Josiall
Crows, Robert Carter, Thomas Cobbs, James Cobbs and Moses
Cobbs.
Rev. Kicholas Hamner Cobbs was born in Bedford County,
Virginia, on 5th April, 1796. He lvas the eldest son of John
Lewis and Susan Cobbs. He married Lucy H. L. Cobbs, his
first cousin. After serving as pastor in Bedford, and Petersburg,
and Cincinnati, he became Eishop of Alabama, where he died at
his home in ;1Iontgonlery on January 11, 1861. He had ten cl~il-
dren whose names are given in Slaughter's Rristol Parislz.
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Hi Dolores, Here's the article you wanted. I hope you find it useful.
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Hello. I put the request for help and Eve and Michael responded and now I am
sharing with
the rest of you.
Hope you find it useful.
Thanks.
Dolores Cobb Phifer
Subsidy Roll 1319, Portsoken ward - De Johanne Cobbe de Walflet pro navi
vocata La Stede de
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.asp?compid=31939&strquery=cobhttp://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.asp?compid=31939&strquery=cobbe
Sponsor: Centre for Metropolitan History
Publication: Two Early London Subsidy Rolls
Year published: 1951
Supporting documents: Abbreviations
Pages: 252-54
Citation: 'Subsidy Roll 1319: Portsoken ward', Two Early London Subsidy
Rolls (1951), pp. 252-54. URL:
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.asp?compid=31939&strquery=cobbe.
Date accessed: 21 August 2007.
Warda de Portsok', Portsoken ward.
Portsokn'.
Parish: St. Botolph Aldgate.
Alderman: The Prior of Holy Trinity.
[Mem. 11.]
From: 'Subsidy Roll 1319: Portsoken ward', Two Early London Subsidy Rolls
(1951), pp. 252-54. URL:
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.asp?compid=31939&strquery=cobbe.
Date accessed: 21 August 2007.
7t De Johanne Cobbe iiij.s. (fn. 7)
7. John Cob, butcher 1310 LBD 113, J. Cobbe 1326 (1329) Will (of Ports). -
ME cobbe 'a great man, big man, leading man' or Cobbe fn.
--------------------------
34t De Alexandro ate Grenex.d.(fn. 34)
From: 'Subsidy Roll 1319: Portsoken ward', Two Early London Subsidy Rolls
(1951), pp. 252-54. URL:
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.asp?compid=31939&strquery=cobbe.
Date accessed: 21 August 2007.
34. Possibly Alexander Cobbe 1326 Cor 166 (juror Ports), 1332 S (butcher,
6s. 8d.), 1338 LBF 22 (repr. Ports). - Cf. no. 7.
========================
Portsoken ward is one of the wards into which the City of London is divided
for electoral purposes. Each Ward has its own annual meeting, and elects
representatives to the Court of Common Council.
A map of the London wards may be seen here:
http://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/Corporation/about_us/voting/wards/ward_bou...
London Subsidy Rolls Abbreviations
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.asp?compid=31961
London Subsidy Rolls map
http://213.86.34.248/NR/rdonlyres/27A93F03-473B-4FF2-A922-AE60838BC0DA/0/...
==============================
http://books.google.com/books?id=z-sJAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA177&lpg=PA177&dq=%22de...
The Early English Customs System: A Documentary Study of the Institutional
and Economic History ... By Gras, Norman Scott Brien, 1884-
THE LOCAL CUSTOMS 177
De Johanne Cobbe de Walflet pro navi vocata La Stede de
Hethe et vii quarteriis plumbi viii d.
"From John Cobb of Walfleet for a ship called La Stede of Hethe and
seven quarters of lead, 8 pence"
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De Johanne Cobbe de Walflet pro navi vocata La Stede de
Hethe et vii quarteriis plumbi viii d.
Due from Joan Cobb of Wallfleet, for the ship known as 'The Stede/Stead of
Heath' and for 7 quarters of lead, 8 pence.
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De Johanne Cobbe de Walflet pro navi vocata La Stede de
Hethe et vii quarteriis plumbi viii d.
"From John Cobb of Walfleet for a ship called La Stede of Hethe and
seven quarters of lead, 8 pence"
No.
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Subject: [COBB] Help with "Warda de Portsok',Portsoken ward" Publication:
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> Hi Mike... I had some help with the supporting links on the London
> Wards... could this be out John Cob/Cobbe?
>
>
> http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.asp?compid=31939&strquery=cob
>
> http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.asp?compid=31939&strquery=cobbe
>
> Sponsor: Centre for Metropolitan History
> Publication: Two Early London Subsidy Rolls
> Year published: 1951
> Supporting documents: Abbreviations
>
> Pages: 252-54
> Citation: 'Subsidy Roll 1319: Portsoken ward', Two Early London Subsidy
> Rolls (1951), pp. 252-54. URL:
> http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.asp?compid=31939&strquery=cobbe.
> Date accessed: 21 August 2007.
>
> Warda de Portsok', Portsoken ward.
> Portsokn'.
> Parish: St. Botolph Aldgate.
> Alderman: The Prior of Holy Trinity.
> [Mem. 11.]
>
> From: 'Subsidy Roll 1319: Portsoken ward', Two Early London Subsidy Rolls
> (1951), pp. 252-54. URL:
> http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.asp?compid=31939&strquery=cobbe.
> Date accessed: 21 August 2007.
>
> 7t De Johanne Cobbe iiij.s. (fn. 7)
>
> 7. John Cob, butcher 1310 LBD 113, J. Cobbe 1326 (1329) Will (of Ports). -
> ME cobbe 'a great man, big man, leading man' or Cobbe fn.
>
> --------------------------
>
> 34t De Alexandro ate Grenex.d.(fn. 34)
>
> From: 'Subsidy Roll 1319: Portsoken ward', Two Early London Subsidy Rolls
> (1951), pp. 252-54. URL:
> http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.asp?compid=31939&strquery=cobbe.
> Date accessed: 21 August 2007.
>
> 34. Possibly Alexander Cobbe 1326 Cor 166 (juror Ports), 1332 S (butcher,
> 6s. 8d.), 1338 LBF 22 (repr. Ports). - Cf. no. 7.
>
>
>
> ========================
>
> Portsoken ward is one of the wards into which the City of London is
> divided for electoral purposes. Each Ward has its own annual meeting, and
> elects representatives to the Court of Common Council.
>
> A map of the London wards may be seen here:
> http://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/Corporation/about_us/voting/wards/ward_bou...
>
>
> London Subsidy Rolls Abbreviations
>
> http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.asp?compid=31961
>
>
>
> London Subsidy Rolls map
>
> http://213.86.34.248/NR/rdonlyres/27A93F03-473B-4FF2-A922-AE60838BC0DA/0/...
>
>
>
>
>
> ==============================
>
> http://books.google.com/books?id=z-sJAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA177&lpg=PA177&dq=%22de...
>
> The Early English Customs System: A Documentary Study of the Institutional
> and Economic History ... By Gras, Norman Scott Brien, 1884-
> THE LOCAL CUSTOMS 177
>
> De Johanne Cobbe de Walflet pro navi vocata La Stede de
> Hethe et vii quarteriis plumbi viii d.
>
> "From John Cobb of Walfleet for a ship called La Stede of Hethe and
> seven quarters of lead, 8 pence"
>
>
>
>
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Looking for parental information on Lucretia Cobb, born about 1820 in New York. Married Alonzo Burgess about 1840 in New York.They lived in Erie Co. PA from about 1854 - 1868 and then in Waupaca Co.Wisconsin from between 1865 - 1888. Lucretia died in 1888 in Waupaca, WI. Children born to Lucretia and Alonzo are: Marietta, Edwin, Emma Jane (my g-grandmother)Lester, Delphine, and Lewis.
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Ok Mike... I got sidetracked again from mom's side when I came upon this
reference...
http://books.google.com/books?id=z-sJAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA177&lpg=PA177&dq=%
The Early English Customs System: A Documentary Study of the
Institutional and Economic History ... By Gras, Norman Scott Brien, 1884-
THE LOCAL CUSTOMS 177
De Johanne Cobbe de Walflet pro navi vocata La Stede de
Hethe et vii quarteriis plumbi viii d.
I asked for translation help on my of my lists and one of my fellow
researchers thought that it meant this...
"From John Cobb of Walfleet for a ship called La Stede of Hethe and
seven quarters of lead, 8 pence"
and... another fellow researcher thought that it mean this...
Not so far as I know. According to the previous page in the Google Books
version, it was a grant of murage at Great Yarmouth in Norfolk, ie a
financial contribution to the cost of the up-keep for the town's defences by
those who benefitted from them - a kind of local tax. It is more likely to
have been assessed on the basis of the capital value of his assets, but I
don't know for sure. Cheers, Michael
So, based on the above possible translations... I went looking to learn more
about this John COBBE and found the following.
Now things are starting to fall into place and starting to make sense. The
earliest research into our COB/COBBE/COBBES/COBBS/COBB line that Mike Cobb
found was goes back to John Cobbe and his father Henry Cobbe.
>From the research it shows that the our COB/COBBE/COBBES/COBBS/COBB line
lived in the Romney Marshes... which is one of the Cinque Ports. We know
that John Cobbe (and his father Henry Cobbe) lived in Romney... one of the
Cinque Ports. So, from this record... then it appears that he was either
accessed a toll/tax/levy for either a ship as you suggested and/or a ship
landing place. This helps to explain why he lived there in Romney and not
somewhere else... like inward more.
So, Based on the above replies... I went looking and found...
Romney, Cinque Ports
I found this about Walfleet -
http://www.dartmouth-history.org.uk/content_images/upload/OOP%20Books/No0...
THE STORY OF WARFLEET...This is the story of Warfleet Creek, and the land
and houses immediately surrounding it, including Gallants Bower which
overlooks it on the south. It was once part of a separate manor and parish
which developed as a small community of its own, separate from the town of
Dartmouth. Early Days... Warfleet, along with Southtown, Gallants Bower and
the Week valley were from Saxon times up to the end of the eighteenth
century owned by the lord of Stoke Fleming. The boundary of the town of
Dartmouth which grew up in the llth century stopped at Bayards Cove. In 1192
comes the first reference to "the monastery of St. Peter" which was to grow
into the chapel of St. Petrox, then not a public chapel.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochford
The town is the main settlement in the Rochford district, and takes its name
from Rochefort, Old English for Ford of the Hunting Dogs. The River Roach
was originally called the Walfleet. (Creek of the foreigners). It was
renamed the Roach in what is known as a back formation. This is where it is
assumed that Rochford means ford over the River Roach so they renamed the
river to fit the theory. The town runs into suburban developments in the
parishes of Ashingdon and Hawkwell.
Now, I at least know where it is now.
http://books.google.com/books?id=z-sJAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA177&lpg=PA177&dq=%22pr...
8. An account of murage collected at Great Yarmouth, j
August, 1342—2 August, 1343.
Only a small part of the whole account is printed here, that
covering the first two weeks. Murage, at the time when it comes
into view for close study, was a local due ordinarily granted to a
town by the king and intended for the building and upkeep of the
town walls.1
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/latin/advanced/lesson06/part05.htmhttp://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/latin/advanced/popup/word-list.htm
voco, vocare, vocavi, vocatum (1) to call
navis, navis (f.) ship
pro (prep. with abl.) for, on behalf of
http://www.northvegr.org/lore/oldenglish/p.php
place: 1. stede, stow | 2. stede, stow | 3. adon, asettan
Hethe/Hythe/haɪð/haithe/Hetha
http://www.answers.com/topic/hythe-kent
Hythe (IPA: [haɪð or haithe]) is a small coastal market town on the edge of
Romney Marsh, in the District of Shepway (derived from Sheep Way) on the
south coast of Kent. The word Hythe or Hithe is an Old English word meaning
Haven or Landing Place.
This info below may help to explain why there is very little on the wives
around that time. Because of Mike's research we have the husband/males'
names all the way back, but not all of the the females/wives. We know
through further research that more than of our COB/COBBE/COBBES/COBBS/COBBs
survived 'The Black Death"... according to the account. And, by the account
listed below... we see that their land could have been one of the ones that
were destroyed by the fire during that time as well.
At the Cobb website....
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cobb/kent.htm Mike has -
2. Richard COBBS Esquire (John-1) was born before 1326 in Cobbs Court,
Romney, Kent. More specifically, he was born during the first quarter of
the 14th century.
"Richard, was living in 1338 and survived the Black Death in 1348 which
took heavy toll of the population of New Romney and also through part of the
long war with the French, which caused great economic distress in the town,
when it was under constant threat of invasion."
and also at -
http://www.aemyers.net/genealogy/d0008/g0000050.htmlhttp://www.cobbweb.org.uk - offers in a reprint of Cobb history in Co.
Kent, England
And, I found this to support the above comment...
http://www.answers.com/topic/hythe-kent
The town has had a succession of disasters, including a fire that destroyed
about 100 houses. In 1348 the black death afflicted Hythe, and in 1400 the
plague further reduced the town's population.
http://www.the-orb.net/encyclop/culture/towns/glossary.html
murage A special toll or tax that boroughs could levy, if they received
royal licence to do so, on condition that the proceeds to be put towards the
building or repair of town walls. The licences specified a limiting period
within which the levy could take place. The king was normally inclined to
grant such licences, since it was in his interest that his towns be well
protected. We find such licences granted from early thirteenth to late
fifteenth centuries; examples can be seen at Norwich, Lynn, and Yarmouth.
Romney, Cinque Ports
http://www.open-sandwich.co.uk/cinqueports/index.htm
The Cinque Ports: Introduction
In early times, the fishing fleets, maintained by the South Eastern coastal
towns were frequently pressed into service to convey people, and armies, to
and from the Continent, as well as to fight battles at sea. They formed the
first Navy, and, in return for the use of their vessels, the ports received
many privileges from the Crown. Gradually the ports grouped together for
mutual support and a confederation of the five main ones, Sandwich, Dover,
Hythe, Romney, and Hastings, was formed and became known as the Cinque
Ports. This grouping probably began before the Norman conquest, the Domesday
Book records the obligation of the ports to supply ships and men to the King
once a year. This ship service continued for over three hundred years until
larger ships were needed by the Navy Originally, the Cinque Ports were a
confederation of five harbours, Sandwich, Romney, Dover, Hythe, and
Hastings. These were grouped together, for defense purposes, by Edward
the Confessor. They supplied the Crown with ships and men.
=========================
http://cityark.medway.gov.uk/query/results/?Mode=Search;SearchWords=Tonbr...
Centre for Kentish Studies
Path: Ecclesiastical_Regular_and_Capitular_Foundations/
DRc_Rochester_Priory_and_other_Religious_Houses_1080_1541/
BA04_Legal_Records_1096_1535/ 01_St_Andrews_Priory_Rochester_1096_1523/
DRc_L05_1.html
Confirmation by Gilbert, Earl of Gloucester and Hertford of a charter of
Gilbert de Tonnebregg, Earl of Hertford [1217-1230]***
Gilbert de Tonnebregg', Earl of Hertford**** to all his friends and all
clerks and laymen both French and English:
* Ralph, Bishop of Sussex [Chichester] 1091-1123; Anselm Archbishop of
Canterbury 1093-1109 Ernulf, Prior of Canterbury 1096-1115
** Seffrid II, Bishop of Chichester 1180-1204
*** Gilbert de Clare was created Earl of Gloucester in 1217, he died 25
October 1238
**** Possibly Gilbert de Clare, created Earl of Hertford c.1138-1141 who
died 1151-1153
At the request of Anselm, Archbishop of Canterbury he has given the advowson
of Rotherfield church which Alured, son of Hubert holds as parson to the
monks of Rochester in free alms with all liberties, customs, plains, woods,
pastures, and all rights and appurtences forever. Alured shall pay the monks
2 marks a year for as long as he holds the parsonage and every parson after
him likewise forever to provide lights for St Andrew's church.
Witnesses:
Hamo de Precato, constable, Alured de Benneville, Hanneric, chaplain,
Albric, chaplain, Robert de Talewrd, Bartholomew Peter, son of Guncel',
Roger de Glinchape, Hugh de Counton', Walter de Aberonn, David, Ralph de
Offuct', Richard Coc, Mustellus, Walter the chamberlain, Oderic, the
forester, Edward Cheg, Brichnod Cobbe and the whole of Rotherfield hundred.
Witnesses to the confirmation:
Sir Michael de la Fosse, Sir Hugh de Chestre [cf. Chester], Sir Gilbert de
Walton, Sir Thomas de Fure, Richard de la Lade.
Endorsements:
1. Pencis ecclesie de Redirfeld [i.e. Rotherfield] ad festum pasche et
Michaelis [15th century after which has been added] duarum marcarum
[?16th.century]
2. Retherfyle [i.e. Rotherfield] 294 years since/A. sentence by the bysshop
of Canterburye [i.e. Canterbury] Anno domini 1282 [Martin Cotes, Rochester
Chapter Clerk 1574-1605]
3. Littera domini Archiepiscopi Cantuarensis [i.e. Canterbury] de Rederfeld
[i.e. Rotherfield] [14th. century]
Large fragment of archiepiscopal seal. Document has been annotated possibly
in the late sixteenth century in the left hand margin and a hand there drawn
with a finger pointing to the words Roffensis ab ecclesia de Retherfelde
[i.e. Rotherfield] in the text referring to the pension. Slightly stained.
Latin.
Date: 25 August 1282
Quantity: 1 membrane, seal tape and pendant seal
Notice that there is 'no comma' after 'Brichnod Cobbe' 'and and the whole
of Rotherfield Hundred' . So, it appears by this that Brichnod may be
associated with the 'Rotherfield Hundred'.
So now, I have to ask... who the heck is - Brichnod Cobbe (who witnessed
the above confirmation back in the 1217-1230s? Brichnod Cobbe must have
known Gilbert de Tonnebregg, Earl of Hertford [1217-1230]. Is he somehow
related to John Cobbe and Henry Cobbe?
Rotherfield Hundred
Rotherfield Hundred was an Ancient District in the county of Sussex, in
England.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz=1T4GGIH_enUS227US227&q=%22Rotherfi...
and http://www.theweald.org/bk.asp?BookId=Pullein042&xid=A&xnm=1
And in http://www.theweald.org/bk.asp?BookId=Pullein055&Xid=C&xnm=1 it lists
in 12 96 the inhabitants of Rotherfield Hundred... Walter Frythe being one
of them, Geoffry att Frythe, ... then it says... "for FRYTHE is the old
Frith ferling named often in the Rotherfied Manor Rolls:"... in the 1327
Rolls... you have Thomas Wallesism Gilbert att Frith, Richard atte Frith, in
the 1332 Rolls... Henry Cat (he is in earlier ones too), Gilbert att
Frythe, Richard atte Frythe, and Robert de Bromfield (a Bromfield marries a
Cobb), Henry Cat... is he related to the early female (Alice CUTTS) in the
COBBS, a John Catts. And on pg 14 it says that the Danish word named land
lying at Mark Cross This division of the Manor of Rotherfeld called Frith.
Frith in Danish meant a field taken out of a wood and remaining untilled.
The same word used by the Anglo-Saxon to signify "a retired glen where peace
is found" . Thus, a frithgild was a union of neighbours pledged tp preserve
peace, and a frith-stool was a seat in the santuary placed in a church....
the Danish tongue we owe the ferling of Frith at Mark Crossm which gave a
surname to certain of the Kings taxpayers in AD 1296. IT was later
corrupted to Fyrght and Fright's Farm tells us where the ferling lay.
In http://www.theweald.org/bk.asp?bookid=Pullein045&xid=B&xnm=1 -
Rotherfield - The Story of some Wealden Manors by Catharine Pullein
published by Courier in 1928 ... this reference it mentions Richard de
Tonnebregg's wife Rohesia, daughter of Walter Giffard. I only mention that
as we later have a Crosia Frith, wife of Robert COBB. Rohesia sound similar
to Crosia and it may give us a possible clue to her familial background.
Just a thought. Crosia I found means 'Cross' and there is a plantation in
Talbott County, Eastern Shore Maryland USA named 'Crosia-Dore'. In
http://books.google.com/books?id=mFEDAAAAYAAJ&pg=PT248&dq=maryland+%22cro...
states that Walter Dickinson, a Quaker left England and purchased this land
in 1659 in Maryland and called it Crosia-Dore after first settling in
Virginia. So, it is then possible that the Cobb and Dickinson families
could have known each other.
And, down a few generations you have a CROSHAW (CROSIA aka CROSHER, CRUCHE,
CRAWSHAY, and CROHSAW) showing up.
In http://www.theweald.org/bk.asp?BookId=Pullein057&Xid=G&xnm=1 it mentions
Alicia alter Cruche... "at the Cross"... my have lived by a wayside cross or
at a cross-road. Later it mentions a John atte Cruche
and then I found -
Maidstone Picture Gallery at
http://www.theweald.org/hpicturesgallery.asp?PId=PK.M.stone
and then I found English Homes and Villages (Kent and Sussex) at
http://www.theweald.org/bk.asp?bookid=ladyh902
Lewes - http://www.theweald.org/bk.asp?BookId=ladyh110&xid=A&xnm=1
and http://www.theweald.org/bk.asp?BookId=ladyh122&xid=A&xnm=1 and
http://www.theweald.org/bk.asp?BookId=ladyh120fp&xid=A&xnm=1
Kent - http://www.theweald.org/bk.asp?BookId=ladyh153&xid=A&xnm=1
The Weald at Kent -
http://www.theweald.org/bk.asp?BookId=ladyh227&xid=A&xnm=1 and
http://www.theweald.org/bk.asp?BookId=ladyh232fp&xid=A&xnm=1http://www.theweald.org/bk.asp?bookid=kenth900 Country Houses of Kent by
Arthur Oswald published by Country Life Ltd. in 1933
http://www.theweald.org/bw.asp?bookid=kc000 Images of the Castles in Kent
by Andrew Rowland published in 2007
http://www.theweald.org/bk.asp?BookId=Pullein045&Xid=A&xnm=1 In this book
it says "Tonbridge was one of these places, and Odo had given it to Richard
de Claire"... it then talks about "Lanfranck... in Kent near Maidenstone".
So it appears that Rothersfield/Rotherfield Hundred is near Tonbridge and
that is also near Maidenstone where our COBBS lived. One reference
referrred The Weald as the Romney Marshes... where our COBBS also loved.
This land is the same are where Kind of Offa of Mercia was said to be in the
area and they come in through the early WHITEs.
Hope this helps to document the earliest of the COB/COBBE/COBBES/COBBS/COBB
line.
Best Regards,
Dolores Cobb Phifer
I found this Kent site and recognized many of your COB and COBB names.
Hope it helps some.
Dolores Cobb Phifer
http://www.theweald.org/a32.asp?QId=31502020&astart=184999999&aend=999999998
Name Sex Type Date Place Parish/Area Father Mother Source
Sarah Cob F Born 1770 to 1775 Sussex 1841 Census
Mayfield, Sussex
William Cob M Born 1775 to 1780 Sussex 1841 Census
Mayfield, Sussex
John F. Cobb M Born 1801 Margate, Kent 1881 Census
Tunbridge Wells, Kent
Caroline Cobb F Born 1805 London 1881 Census
Tunbridge Wells, Kent
Mary E. Cobb F Born 1842 Northamptonshire John F. Cobb Caroline Cobb 1881 Census
Tunbridge Wells, Kent
Alfred F. Cobb M Born 1844 Northamptonshire John F. Cobb Caroline Cobb 1881 Census
Tunbridge Wells, Kent
Jane E. Cobb F Born 1846 Croydon, Surrey 1881 Census
Brasted, Kent
Susan M. Cobb F Born 1847 Northamptonshire John F. Cobb Caroline Cobb 1881 Census
Tunbridge Wells, Kent
James B. Cobb M Born 1855 Northamptonshire 1881 Census
Tunbridge Wells, Kent
Walter Cobb M Born 1856 Norfolk David Homewood's records
Alice Mary Cobb [Clare] F Born 1859 Norfolk James Clare Caroline Clare [Woods] David Homewood's records
Margaret Cobb F Born 1869 Kent 1881 Census
Tunbridge Wells, Kent
Elsie Cobb F Born 1880 Norfolk Walter Cobb Alice Mary Cobb [Clare] David Homewood's records
Frederick Cobb M Born 1883 Norfolk Walter Cobb Alice Mary Cobb [Clare] David Homewood's records
Edward H Cobb M Born 1885 Norfolk Walter Cobb Alice Mary Cobb [Clare] David Homewood's records
Walter Cobb M Born 1888 Norfolk Walter Cobb Alice Mary Cobb [Clare] David Homewood's records
Maggie Cobb F Born 1890 Norfolk Walter Cobb Alice Mary Cobb [Clare] David Homewood's records
Alice C Cobb F Born 1892 Norfolk Walter Cobb Alice Mary Cobb [Clare] David Homewood's records
Hello. Have you seen this one... "The William and Mary Quarterly, Vol. 19, No. 1 (Jul., 1910), pp. 51-56" ?
Cobb or Cobbs Family
The William and Mary Quarterly, Vol. 19, No. 1 (Jul., 1910), pp. 51-56
doi:10.2307/1921421
This article consists of 6 page(s).
just a portion of it ...
"In 1682 Mr. Cobbs was appointed sheriff of York County by Sir Henry Chicheley. In 1679 Daniel Parke, Secretary of State, died and Mr. Cobbs was administrator of Virginia estate of Col. Parke. He married Elizabeth ___, born according to her deposition, in 1634. He died Dec. 29, 1682, and ... "
I'd love to see the entire article.
Thanks.
Dolores Cobb Phifer
Hi Mike. I found this looking for mom's side. I noticed COBBS, MAROT, PASTUER, SHIELDS, etc are on this list.. these are not in my direct line, but it should help you with the others.
Later, Dolores COBB Phifer
http://research.history.org/JDRLibrary.cfmhttp://research.history.org/IntranetDHC/BBOW/Population/1725Query.cfm
Final Population List for 1725
Estimated Population for 1725: 360-390 (see Raw Numbers and Calculations for how this Number was Derived)
Number of Individuals that can be accounted for as living in Williamsburg in 1725 to some degree of Certainty: 189
The list below includes the names of 189 individuals identified as having lived in Williamsburg any time between 1724 and 1726. However, slaves, indentured servants, women and children are under-represented. James City County residents are also not fully accounted for because of the lack or records available for the south side of town. The individuals who could be identified as Williamsburg residents in 1725 are listed below along with their degree of certainty (click here for an explanation of the reliability ratings).
The following Cobb burials are located in Wise Hill Cemetery, near Billings, Christian Co., MO (near Wilson's Creek National Battlefield). They appear to be 4 generations of the same family.
(double stone) Elbert L. Cobb 1843-1926
Catherine S. Cobb 1855-1937
(double stone) Marion M. Cobb 2-8-1871 to 11-25-1949
Naomi N. Cobb 6-30-1871 to 4-3-1901
(double stone) Alva H. Cobb 1-1-1900 to 7-20-1956
Hazel I. Cobb 5-19-1905 to 7-26-1986
(double stone) Willis Arthur Cobb 1-2-1920 to 1-27-1981
Mildred Irene Cobb 8-27-1926 to 1-2-1990
A cousin of mine who lives nearby transcribed these names and dates. Maybe these dates will help someone who is researching SW Missouri. Billings, MO is southwest of Springfield.
Virginia Greene
Hello WHITE-COBB Family Researchers... I just had to share some of the great
finds that have surfaced lately since our family is scattered across the
country...
This link (
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cobb/amb/d0001/g0000173.html#I280 )
takes our COBBS/COBB line and connects it to this link
http://cappyzeb.freeyellow.com/ancestors/pages/white.htm which connects our
WHITE line to Criag's line where has taken our family and his way back
pretty far. See my connecting gennerations listed below...
Our COBBS/COBB-WHITE line -
Thomas WHITE (Robert WHITE and Elizabeth INGLEFIELD) and Agnes 'Alice' ALLER
Richard WHITE (Thomas WHITE and Agnes 'Alice' ALLER) and Helen KIRTON
Richard WHITE (son of Richard WHITE and Helen KIRTON) and Alice RICH
Robert WHITE (son of Richard WHITE and Alice RICH) and Susanna BOULDEN
Craig Balunsat's line at his WHITE Family research site
( http://cappyzeb.freeyellow.com/ancestors/pages/white.htm ) which takes our
WHITE side of our COBB line way back and even back further at (
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~craigsplace/site2/white/Gladys.html
) where Gladys (D.Of Hevallon AP CYNFYN) verch Rhywallon takes us back even
further... wow!
Craig's WHITE line where it connects with our common ancestors... his line
appears to be out of a different marriage... one to a Joane WEST and Robert
WHITE
and I am out of this marriage...
Ann WHITE (dau of Robert WHITE and Susanna BOULDEN) and Ambrose COBBS are my
9th gr-grandparents at can bee seen at (
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cobb/amb/d0001/g0000173.html#I280 )
I must add here that I owe Craig Balunsat and his family a very big thanks
for all of this great research. Thanks Craig.
And, I again thank Mike Cobb and my other way distant cousins at the
COBBS-COBB Research site for all of their research as well. It's wonderful
to see our family growing even if it only on the web. Thanks Mike and the
rest of the COBBS/COBB (and related families)researcher cousins.
And a big thanks also goes out to one of our distant cousins - Connie Moss
(who my sister Fran connected with years back) at
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/m/o/s/Connie-L-Moss/WEBSITE-00... .
See infor for Susanna Boulden and Robert White and their daughter Ann White.
Great Job Connie and Thanks.
And, I have to thank Will Johnson for sending me this link on the
ThePeerage.com... which gives us a great reference source...
http://www.thepeerage.com/p17359.htm#i173582 . Thanks Will.
I am so excited to find these great links that takes our family back a few
more generations. Dad (crossed over Nov 2004) wanted us to know how far we
came and from who and to find the proof that supports our family stories.
One by one we are finding what we need to to help history come alive for the
next generations... dad's grands and great-grands. It was the family stories
that mom, dad, and other family members told that made history come alive
for us kids when we were in school... I guess that is why we love history
now and big kids. <smile>
Some of these references are missing citations and we are working it as the
best we can as I am sure the other researchers are as well. I just had to
share what I had found... sorry that I have been so quiet.
Best Regards.
Dolores Cobb Phifer
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Hello. I found this website and pulled some of my sunames... Hope this helps, Dolores COBB Phifer
http://www.kent-opc.org/Parishes/PRTranscripts/LymingeBur.html
Burials 1538 to 1837, Lyminge Kent Online Parish Clerks Kent Online Parish Clerks
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The following transcripts are set up as follows: Reference number; Year; Day; Month; Child's Forename(s); Son or Daughter; Parents Given Names; Surname; Notes
597 1595 25 Aug . COBBE d /o Ambrose
598 1595 27 Aug Ambrose COBBE s/o Ambrose
30 1540 27 Apr Peter WHITE
41 1542 31 Dec Thomas WHITE s/o Andrewe
90 1545 2 Jan Margaret WHITE d/o Andrewe
114 1546 17 Apr Richard WHITE servant of Robert KITE
125 1546 21 Aug William WHITE
166 1550 12 Sep Robert WHITE
190 1553 10 Jan ..ilype WHITE wid of Robert
197 1553 19 Aug Bartholemewe WHITE s/o Edward
284 1558 4 May Richard WHITE
414 1574 25 Jan Elizabeth WHITE wid.
459 1581 20 Aug Ursela WHITE d /o Peter
505 1587 15 Jun Peter WHITE householder
613 1598 28 Feb Joane WHITE wid.
684 1608 14 Dec John WHITE
774 1620 20 Dec .. WHITE of Peter
779 1621 10 Dec John WHITE
850 1630 7 Apr John WHITE s/o Robert
896 1636 17 Aug William WHITE
957 1642 10 May Robert WHITE
1011 1653 16 Oct Thomas WHITE s/o Paul & Mary
1040 1655 3 Jan Thomas WHITE
1049 1657 25 Mar Anne WHITE wif of Robert
1051 1657 20 May John WHITE s/o Paul & Mary
1213 1678 4 Dec Elizabeth WHITE
1251 1681 17 Jun .ier WHITE
1256 1681 5 Feb Mar WHITE
1264 1682 19 Feb Peter WHITE infant
1282 1685 27 Oct Richard WHITE s/o John & Martha
1295 1686 4 Jun Anthony WHITE
1321 1688 29 Aug Henry & Sarah WHITE s&d/o John & Martha
1365 1693 22 Oct John WHITE
1413 1697 29 Jun John WHITE
1498 1705 15 Jul Martha WHITE wife of John
1565 1713 8 May Stephen WHITE s/o Peter & Ann
1658 1721 27 Aug John WHITE
1717 1728 9 Aug Paul WHITE
1722 1729 27 Apr Elizabeth WHITE
1765 1734 28 Feb Edward WHITE
1819 1742 1 Apr William WHITE
1974 1760 11 Mar Mary WHITE wid
2439 1808 15 May William WHITE infant
2583 1825 11 Feb George WHITE 30 Lyminge
2620 1828 23 Apr Mary Grace WHITE 50 Lyminge
2678 1833 26 Mar Abby WHITE 10 mths Dover
2686 1833 19 Oct James WHITE 81 Lyminge
919 1638 16 Sep Elizabeth BOULDEN wif of Henry
no WRIGHT found
no RICH found
no KIRTON found
no ALLER found
several WALLER found
no GAYNSFORD found
no ENGLEFIELD found
no INGLEFIELD found
no HUNGERFORD found
no ALECIA found
1774 1736 9 May Elizabeth YOUNG
1790 1738 26 Oct Elizabeth YOUNG wife of John
1825 1742 24 May Mary YOUNG
1851 1745 10 Oct John YOUNG
2080 1770 6 Dec John YOUNG
2142 1777 23 Jun Richard YOUNG
2193 1783 30 Mar Elizabeth YOUNG 85
2269 1792 5 Oct Thomas YOUNG 74
2671 1832 2 Sep John Young MARSH 22 Rhodes Minnis
several YOUNGE found
1238 1680 11 Oct Mrs Margery HUNT
1315 1688 25 Jul Margaret HUNT
1359 1693 28 Sep Thomas HUNT
1510 1706 1 Nov Eliz HUNT d/o Thomas & Margaret
1529 1708 10 Nov Mary HUNT d/o Thomas & Margaret
1852 1745 17 Nov Margret HUNT
1919 1753 24 May Thomas HUNT
2295 1795 2 Feb Richard HUNT infant
no Hawlett found
no Thorpe found
Kent line Parish Clerks
My Surnames: COBBE, WHITE, BOULDEN, WRIGHT, RICH, KIRTON, ALLER , WALLER, GAYNSFORD, ENGLEFIELD, INGLEFIELD, HUNGERFORD, HAWLETT, THORPE, YOUNG, YOUNGE, HUNT
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http://brideindex.info/Pages/u1009.html
UNKNOWN
Alice
Husband: John Cobbs
No marriage date. One child born: ABT 1420
http://wilkey-wilkie-book.com/Web_DownLo/wilkey_peterkin.ged
UNKNOWN
Alice Alecia
Date of birth: 1419
Place of birth: Swanborn,Hampshire,England
Husband: Robert White
Place of marriage: Swanborn,Hampshire,England
Date of marriage: 1435
http://www.lehnherr.com/genealogy/zen/zen.ged
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Thanks so much Charlotte - I have been looking for such a site with so many links.!!
Margie
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Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 6:51 PM
Subject: [COBBS] FYIO... England site for research
http://www.pricegen.com/english_genealogy.html
This is a good site for English Research
charlotte c smith
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