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I don't know who the John Coates or Coats put these lists on, but it
wasn't me. There are presently 300 John Coatses in the USA, not to
mention John Coates, without ever Europe. Be aware, Rootsweb is a
partner of Ancestry.com and all these messages are posted there. I'm
sure that's the reason you don't see that many posts.
My name is John Wayne Coats. Most John Coatses use their middle initial,
just like my Dad told me to do. My Grandfather was John Webster Coats,
named after his grandfather, John Webster Coats. I'm sure this is why
James Robert Coats started signing his name James R. Coats in 1823. He
finally figured out there were a bunch of James Coatses out there.
Connie....
Allen Coats had no children named Orrin.
Deane
----- Original Message -----
From: "Connie Faulk" <connief7648(a)gmail.com>
To: coats(a)rootsweb.com
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 1:58:40 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [COATS] John Gent and James of Edgefield
Does your Allen have a son Orrin?
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 3:15 PM, <dmcoats(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks John........That would not be my James. My James is the son of Allen
> Coats. Allen was born in North Carolina, Married in Rowan County to
> Elizabeth Harmon. James was born in Kentucky. Likely that was in Madison
> county as his brother Amos was born in Madison county.
>
> Thanks for the info.
>
> My line is R1b1b2
>
> Deane M. Coats
>
> dmcoats(a)comcast.net
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Coats" <jwcoats(a)htc.net>
> To: Coates-L(a)rootsweb.com, "Coats Family History" <
> coats.genealogy(a)gmail.com>, Coats-L(a)rootsweb.com, "Linda Coate" <
> lcoate(a)ancestrees.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 8:27:57 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
> Subject: [COATS] John Gent and James of Edgefield
>
> The following is a quote from the book "The Coate, Coates, Coats family"
> by Odessa Coats Collins, 1989. The following is a Court Record, not part
> of the will of John Gent Coats.
>
> NEWBERRY COURT RECORD:
> 15 Aug 1805: James Coats of Edgefield District to William Coats of
> Newberry for $101.00, a tract of 41 acres in Newberry on waters of Bush
> River called Mathew Creek, which was originally granted to Christian
> Kinder for 250 acres, and by him to John Coate, deceased. Bequeached by
> John Coate deceased, to his son James.
> Signed 15 Aug 1805
> Recorded 25 Jan 1806
> Witness: J. B. Mitchell, John Coate
>
> Now, if that doesn't put the final stitch in it, I don't know what
> does. John W.
>
>
>
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The following is a quote from the book "The Coate, Coates, Coats family"
by Odessa Coats Collins, 1989. The following is a Court Record, not part
of the will of John Gent Coats.
NEWBERRY COURT RECORD:
15 Aug 1805: James Coats of Edgefield District to William Coats of
Newberry for $101.00, a tract of 41 acres in Newberry on waters of Bush
River called Mathew Creek, which was originally granted to Christian
Kinder for 250 acres, and by him to John Coate, deceased. Bequeached by
John Coate deceased, to his son James.
Signed 15 Aug 1805
Recorded 25 Jan 1806
Witness: J. B. Mitchell, John Coate
Now, if that doesn't put the final stitch in it, I don't know what
does. John W.
After doing some reading, I find that it is clearly stated that the
James mentioned in John Gent's will is James of Edgefield. His wife was
named Elizabeth Scott. This line is well documented, and is totally
different than James Robert's. Also, all those who claim to be descended
from that line as well as Marmaduke have tested R1b1, while all
descendants and relatives of James Robert have tested R1a1.
It makes no difference who wrote a letter to who, or whether or not
anyone is going to claim reparations for all that land that Boone and
Coats bargained for, or whether or not one line or the other descended
from the J&P Coats thread family or anything else. What is stated in the
above paragraph is fact and not fiction. Call me if you want.
618-281-5088 or 618-407-2000.
It seems unbelievable, but there were 3 distinct James Coatses, all born
within about 5 years of each other, who married Elizabeths. One is our
James Robert, another was James of Edgefield, and the other was James of
Kentucky. The latter was shown in the 1850 census living by himself,
while his wife Elizabeth was living with one of her daughter's family in
Indiana. Unless this is James of Edgefield. I haven't checked to see
where he was in 1850 or if he was still alive.