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Anyone know if this is for real?
John Coats
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Subject: Fw: CNN announces a new virus--for real
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 15:54:06 -0600
From: karen kuehner <illblue(a)ipa.net>
To: Roland Falkenhain <rfalken1(a)midsouth.rr.com>, Tony Gipson
<togip(a)msn.com>, steve geneva <GSteveandsallie(a)aol.com>, Ralph Stone
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----- Original Message -----
From: Janie Turner <mailto:janiet@hsnp.com>
To: Janie Turner <mailto:janiet@hsnp.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 2:16 PM
Subject: Fw: CNN announces a new virus--for real
I have not sent you a card, do not open if an email says I have!!! Janie
Subject: CNN announces a new virus--for real
WORST VIRUS EVER ---CNN ANNOUNCED
PLEASE SEND THIS TO EVERYONE ON YOUR CONTACT LIST !!
A new virus has just been discovered that has been
classified by Microsoft as the most destructive ever This
virus was discovered yesterday afternoon by McAfee and no
vaccine has yet ! been developed. This virus
simply destroys Sector Zero from the hard disk, where vital
information for its functioning are stored.
This virus acts in the following manner:
It sends itself automatically to all contacts on your list
with the title "A Card for You".
As soon as the supposed virtual card is opened
the computer freezes so that the user has
to reboot. When the ctrl+alt+del keys or
the reset button are pressed, the virus destroys Sector
Zero, thus permanently destroying the hard disk. Yesterday
in just a few hours this virus caused panic in New York,
according to news broadcast by CNN. This alert was received
by an employee of Microsoft itself.
So don't open any mails with subject: "A Virtual
Card for You." As soon as you get the mail, delete it!!
Even if you know the sender !!!
Please pass this mail to all of your friends.
Forward this to everyone in your address book.
I'm sure most people, like myself, would rather receive this
notice 25 times than not at all.
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hmmm, I'v e not seen anything like this announced on CNN...usually if
something this destructive is encountered the News has something about it on
CNN and I've not heard anything...You might try McAfee's website to see what
it says...
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From: John Coats <jwcoats(a)htc.net>
Reply-To: COATS-L(a)rootsweb.com
To: COATS-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [COATS] [Fwd: Fw: CNN announces a new virus--for real]
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 10:19:48 -0600
Anyone know if this is for real?
John Coats
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Fw: CNN announces a new virus--for real
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 15:54:06 -0600
From: karen kuehner <illblue(a)ipa.net>
To: Roland Falkenhain <rfalken1(a)midsouth.rr.com>, Tony Gipson
<togip(a)msn.com>, steve geneva <GSteveandsallie(a)aol.com>, Ralph Stone
<rstone(a)htc.net>, Pat Torbett <pstorbett(a)whitneytx.net>, norman phillips
<Planophil(a)verizon.net>, Mike McMullan <mcmullan(a)yhti.net>, louie hund
<attilahund(a)charter.net>, Ken Terry <kenwterry(a)yahoo.com>, John McMullan
<mjhnmac(a)aol.com>, John Barnett <barjl(a)htc.net>, Jim Heise
<jimheise(a)mindspring.com>, Jack Coats <jwcoats(a)htc.net>, doris happy
<dhappy(a)luhr.com>, denny mcmullan <mcmull_den(a)yahoo.com>, Dan Finholt
<odanl(a)aol.com>, Claudine Kratz <meemaw39(a)aol.com>, Bonnie Ribbing
<bribbing(a)htc.net>, Bill & Connie Janson <janson(a)htc.net>, Beth
Gummersheimer <beth(a)wholenet.net>, Barry & Dana Hutchings <cdj2610(a)htc.net>,
barb & charlie white <barb-n-charlie(a)msn.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: Janie Turner <mailto:janiet@hsnp.com>
To: Janie Turner <mailto:janiet@hsnp.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 2:16 PM
Subject: Fw: CNN announces a new virus--for real
I have not sent you a card, do not open if an email says I have!!! Janie
Subject: CNN announces a new virus--for real
WORST VIRUS EVER ---CNN ANNOUNCED
PLEASE SEND THIS TO EVERYONE ON YOUR CONTACT LIST !!
A new virus has just been discovered that has been
classified by Microsoft as the most destructive ever This
virus was discovered yesterday afternoon by McAfee and no
vaccine has yet ! been developed. This virus
simply destroys Sector Zero from the hard disk, where vital
information for its functioning are stored.
This virus acts in the following manner:
It sends itself automatically to all contacts on your list
with the title "A Card for You".
As soon as the supposed virtual card is opened
the computer freezes so that the user has
to reboot. When the ctrl+alt+del keys or
the reset button are pressed, the virus destroys Sector
Zero, thus permanently destroying the hard disk. Yesterday
in just a few hours this virus caused panic in New York,
according to news broadcast by CNN. This alert was received
by an employee of Microsoft itself.
So don't open any mails with subject: "A Virtual
Card for You." As soon as you get the mail, delete it!!
Even if you know the sender !!!
Please pass this mail to all of your friends.
Forward this to everyone in your address book.
I'm sure most people, like myself, would rather receive this
notice 25 times than not at all.
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List and Char; This should clarify the discussion we've been having
about which of the Coates may be of Viking hertage. All those in Char's
group are R1a and there is an I. Who is the I by the way?
John Wayne Coats
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Subject: Re: [DNA] Lowland Scots and HG I, Danish connection and Somerled?
Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 23:15:56 -0700
Resent-From: GENEALOGY-DNA-L(a)rootsweb.com
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 22:16:03 -0800 (PST)
From: David Faux <fauxdk(a)yahoo.com>
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To: GENEALOGY-DNA-L(a)rootsweb.com
Hello Pamela:
Despite what you may have read previously, those who are in the best position to assess the matter (those involved the the "Blood of the Vikings" BBC documentary, including the members of Goldstein and Wilson's team) are very clear - R1a is THE Norse Viking signature. Haplotype I may be Viking - Norse or Danish. There again it may also be Anglo - Saxon and as yet there is no way to differentiate between the latter and the Danes since the two groups originated in overlapping geographical regions.
David.
Pamela Berger <berger(a)netstream.net> wrote:
I am curious if R1a1 is also considered a Viking signature. I did not find
much of anything on it in the archives. If I have missed previous
discussion, my apologies. --Pam Berger
Dr. David K. Faux, P.O. Box 192, Seal Beach, CA, 90740, USA
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Subject: Re: [DNA] Lowland Scots and HG I, Danish connection and Somerled?
Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 13:32:12 -0700
Resent-From: GENEALOGY-DNA-L(a)rootsweb.com
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 12:32:11 -0800 (PST)
From: David Faux <fauxdk(a)yahoo.com>
Reply-To: GENEALOGY-DNA-L(a)rootsweb.com
To: GENEALOGY-DNA-L(a)rootsweb.com
Doug:
Very impressive - I am convinced.
The work of Dr. Jim Wilson, now of the University of Edinburgh, has made it abundantly clear that an R1a signature in Britian (barring any recent immigration from Mongolia or Pakistan) is the classic signature of the Norse Viking. The databases of Denmark show a very small percentage of R1a - some samples none. However in Norway today, the percentages are a minimum of 30%. It is also important to note information as to the historical migration patterns of the various Viking groups. I have a number of atlases which show this - and the North of Scotland was almost exclusively Norse Viking - especially Caithness, Sutherland, Shetland, Orkney, the Hebredies, and much of far western Scotland.
David.
doug mcdonald <gendnamcdonald(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
Now we don't know for sure from DNA whether Somerled
was Norse,
Danish, or even Saxon. All have some R1a, and
the actual haplotype of slow-changing markers is
more Norse than Danish/Saxon, and very little
Baltic/Slavic; there is no good database for Pakistan,
where R1a is exceedingly common. But his name is
Norse,
and so probably was he.
Doug McDonald
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Subject: [DNA] Lowland Scots and HG I, Danish connection and Somerled?
Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 13:09:59 -0700
Resent-From: GENEALOGY-DNA-L(a)rootsweb.com
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 15:09:57 -0500
From: Nicholas Penington <Nicholas.Penington(a)downstate.edu>
Reply-To: GENEALOGY-DNA-L(a)rootsweb.com
To: GENEALOGY-DNA-L(a)rootsweb.com
Just some ideas based on some of my recent reading. Before I am attacked,
I am not too invested in any of these theories!
Regarding the lowland Scottish incidence of HG " I" I am not
really surprised. I have been reading Gwyn Jones "The Vikings" recently
which is a very scholarly book. It deals quite a bit with the Kingdom of
Dublin which was in Norse hands from about 850 AD right up to the
conquest. The Norse here held sway over settlements in Cumberland and
Western lowland Scotland. They even claimed supremacy over Danish
controlled York. This resulted from a King of Norway who briefly became
king of Denmark. Naturally, he thus felt that the Danelaw was his, so
they took York back from the Danes at one point.
Another interesting resource is www.electricscotland.com. On this
site we see that several Western Scottish families claim descent from
Somerled who, it is suggested in Jones, was actually a Dane as was Rollo!
A logical extension of all this resulted in some lateral
thinking....We know that there was a large Viking population around Dublin
in 902 AD. Presumably they did not all leave for the Wirral then? and, if
so one could test the people who remained in Dublin to see if they matched
some of those in the Wirral?
I also read that Dublin was resettled in about 917 AD by other
Norwegians (or Danes?). I was wondering if there were any family studies
of families with strong Hiberno-Norse traditions such as the Irish Doyles,
O'Dolyles, McDowelles, McLoughlins, McManus and McIvor families from
around Dublin. The tradition that they are descendants of Norse invaders
is very strong and one might expect to see a higher rate of HG I and R1a
in these families compared to those without the tradition. More
interestingly, there might be motifs in the haplotypes of these families
that suggest a kinship to Wirral families. Unfortunately, in the on-line
list of family DNA Studies (over 1000) I see virtually none of these types
of families listed yet :- http://www.dnalist.net/
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Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [COATES-L] interesting DNA stuff]
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 21:53:41 -0800 (PST)
From: David Faux <fauxdk(a)yahoo.com>
To: John Coats <jwcoats(a)htc.net>
Hello John:
I am not sure exactly what your wish me to do here. If you want a simple
R1a statement - it likely originated in the Ukraine among the Kurgan
peoples during the Last Glacial Maximum and spread as far as Mongolia,
the Russian Altai, India, and as far east as Poland. Anyone with an R1a
haplotype will probably have 10 / 12 matches with indivuduals from these
areas. If the individual with the R1a haplotype is British, then the
only sensible interpretation (barring recent immigration from India
etc.) is that the individuals ancient ancestor was a Norse (not Danish)
Viking. R1a is found at over 30% in Norway, and is also found in areas
known to have been settled by the Norse Vikings - such as Orkney and
Shetland, parts of Scotland and other areas of Britain. I go into all
this in much greater detail on my website for my Shetland Project at
www.davidkfaux.org/shetlandislandsY-DNA.html
<http://www.davidkfaux.org/shetlandislandsY-DNA.html> on page 3 where
there is lots of stuff to click on.
Hope this helps,
David.
John Coats <jwcoats(a)htc.net> wrote:
Dr. David; Could you straiten out our list on this history. We have
unearthed a lot of questions, as to who is related to whom or not.
My take is, this is great, at least we know what is true or untrue.
John Coats
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Subject: Re: [COATES-L] interesting DNA stuff
Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 20:37:53 -0700
Resent-From: COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 19:37:59 -0800
From: Charlotte Coats <coats(a)hotmail.com>
To: COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com
Norsemen, weren't they the folks that took over England some time ago?
Seems to me the world history I recall, says the Norsemen invaded England at
some point in time...although at the rate they are changing the history
books...that could be politically incorrect today...
Norsemen are they Slavic?
What's the history on these two groups....?
Char
----Original Message Follows----
From: John Coats <jwcoats(a)htc.net>
To: COATES-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [COATES-L] interesting DNA stuff
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 21:25:48 -0600
Char; At some point those R1a folk must have mounted their ponies and rode
off to the northwest, since 30% of the Norse-Viking folk are R1a. However,
"I" must be the predominent type. This is fascinating stuff, but I noticed
FTDNA took the DNA Print test off their list of available tests. The newest
one must not be nearly as well accepted as accurate to those PhD types from
Columbia U and MIT who hang out on the genealogbyDNA list. I think this just
shows how unrelated some of the Coatses are who thought they were related.
JWC
Charlotte Coats wrote:
>
>I would like to point out the following, which may be significant for DNA
>folks....actually John Wayne brought this to my attention...
>
>This has to do with Haplo groups...
>
>R1a The R1a lineage is believed to have originated in the Eurasian Steppes
>north of the Black and Caspian Seas. This lineage is believed to have
>originated in a population of the Kurgan culture, known for the
>domestication of the horse (approximately 3000 B.C.E.). These people were
>also believed to be the first speakers of the Indo-European language group.
>This lineage is currently found in central and western Asia, India, and in
>Slavic populations of Eastern Europe.
>R1a - everyone in Rev Will's group is in this haplo type
>
>R1b Haplogroup R1b is the most common haplogroup in European populations.
>It is believed to have expanded throughout Europe as humans re-colonized
>after the last glacial maximum 10-12 thousand years ago. This lineage is
>also the haplogroup containing the Atlantic modal haplotype.
>R1b - all others are in this group including Gab's group and Marm's group
>
>G This lineage may have originated in India or Pakistan, and has dispersed
>into central Asia, Europe, and the Middle East. The G2 branch of this
>lineage (containing the P15 mutation) is found most often in the Europe and
>the Middle East.
>G - 1 test result in this group
>
>I The I, I1, and I1a lineages are nearly completely restricted to
>northwestern Europe. These would most likely have been common within Viking
>populations. One lineage of this group extends down into central Europe.
>I - 1 test result in this group
>
>Larry and John's group is undetermined - there was some ambiguity so their
>group is not reported
>
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